Theodore Aluoch: “What God has told me about Kenya”

October 28, 2007 at 6:30 pm 406 comments

On September 24th, I got communication from Aluoch, a regular reader and commentor on this site, regarding what he said the certain fall of buildings in the Umoja part of Nairobi over increased sin in that part of the city.

As has perhaps become characteristic of this site, I set out to hear him out on this and such other issues.

Our discussion took place a few weeks back, but I have published nothing here owing to my business elsewhere which has kept me off the web for several days now.

In my ups and downs in Cherangany, I also misplaced a large portion of the notes I took on that day, but suffice it to say that his own personal site pretty much sums up what he told me on that day.

Additionally:

  • He insists he is genuine (in response to one of this site’s readers who had earlier queried his authenticity).
  • I learnt that he has paid a price to be where he is spiritually – it hasn’t been easy throughout his life.
  • He considers himself to be prophetic in the Dr. David Owuor mould, though with a greater emphasis on teaching beyond purity / holiness.
  • He agrees with Dr. Owuor’s prophecies.

Regarding Kenya (for which I will need no notes :-) as I recall much of what he said without them….a politician, eh! :-) )…now, a general paraphrase of what he said:

  • Our economy has grown on human blood and sacrifice.  This is one of the many sticking points over which God is rejecting another Kibaki presidency.
  • Raila will win the polls, but his victory will push the Church in Kenya onto its knees. The Church will be compelled to seek God in ways it has not previously thought / envisaged.
  • Nothing short of a divine conspiracy – say a Kibaki repentance – is going to save Kenya from a Raila presidency.
  • Raila could lead the country onto great paths of development, but his reign will herald a serious moment of soul-searching on the part of the Church in Kenya.
  • God had decreed that He wanted Kenya led by a Godly person, and that he (Aluoch) had written both Raila and Uhuru Kenyatta warning them that they were never going to rule Kenya unless they committed their lives to God.  He says neither ever responded to him.
  • Kalonzo had been God’s choice, but lost favor in the spiritual realm early this year. Theodore says God gave him a vision of Kalonzo seeking power and victory from a wizard.  Says that grieved God’s heart beyond measure.  He says that period marked the beginning of Raila’s certain rise and rise to power.

That’s all, folks.

A.O.B:

On my way to town this afternoon, I witnessed a near-fatal accident at MoW (South C).  Blocked off Mombasa Road coz of leo’s marathon, cars had jammed this route.  One car rammed into a small saloon, squeezing the lady driver in it ile mbaya. Lakini aliponyoka….and despite the car looking so horrible, she was ok, save for massive bleeding on one of her arms.  Typical Kenyans were milling around the scene, waiting for karaos and the media…for that odd appearance in the evening news…..

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  • 1. Pea  |  November 3, 2007 at 10:43 am

    Very interesting, what Theodore Aluoch had to say! As for his being genuine, we shall know for sure after the elections; when we see if his predicted candidate becomes president. Thank God that the woman in the accident was saved – that’s divine protection for you!

    Glad to see the numerous posts – have a great read ahead of me! :) Bless.

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  • 2. MICHAEL WANYAMA  |  December 4, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    great prophesy. sometime it is hard to believe prophesy especially when more than one prophet is prophesizing different things on the same point. but as the word say we will know clearly when december 28th comes. my prayer is that may christians surely change their hearts and stop being tribal and pray for the church asnd for the nation and the heart of the incomming leader.thanks

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  • 3. Obiero  |  December 5, 2007 at 10:30 am

    Peleka ujinga ya ujaluo nyarugunga.

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  • 4. Sarah  |  December 5, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    I dont know this prophet but one thing I know is that God can use any available vessel to pass on His message. The Bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. Let us wait and see. Elections are just around the corner.

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  • 5. wycliffe  |  December 17, 2007 at 10:28 am

    All indicators are showing a Raila win.I do not doubt what you are saying because Jehovah says believe in me and believe also my prophets.Am just waiting the fullfillment of this prophecy because if indeed came from yahweh,there is no lie in him.God is good and has always desired to free Kenyans from freemasons that have always entrenched themselves in the past goverment so that he can use this nation to fullfill his mandate for this nation has we’ve heard it from many prophets of God in the past.So if this is the beginning of it,so let it be.
    Amen

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  • 6. wycliffe  |  December 17, 2007 at 10:29 am

    All indicators are showing a Raila win.I do not doubt what you are saying because Jehovah says believe in me and believe also my prophets.Am just waiting the fullfillment of this prophecy because if indeed came from yahweh,there is no lie in him.God is good and has always desired to free Kenyans from freemasons that have always entrenched themselves in the past goverment so that he can use this nation to fullfill his mandate for this nation has we’ve heard it from many prophets of God in the past.So if this is the beginning of it,so let it be.
    Amen

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  • 7. baba tallis  |  December 25, 2007 at 10:23 am

    sasa ni maneno ya final lap. lets see if what the prophet said is true.

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  • 8. ANNE  |  December 31, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    WELL IT SEEMS LIKE THE PREIDENT KIBAKI CHEATED GOD TO THE PROPHECY HE RIGGED HIMSELF INTO POWER WHILE THE WHOLE PUBLIC WATCHED, THIS PROPHECY CAME TO PASS, RAILA WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT ALL OF US KNOW ABOUT IT, IT WAS CLEAR BUT KIBAKI SOMEHOW ARMTWISTD GOD, PROPHET THE WORD HAS COME TO PASS AND IF KIBAKI DOES NOT HONOR GODS WORD HE WILL BE VOTED OUT ONANO CONFIDENCE VOTE MOTION IN PARLIAMENT REMEMBER THE WORD OF THE LORD WILL ALWAYS HAPEN, HE WATCHES OVER HIS WORD TO PERFORM IT, THE ODM HAS MANY MEMMBERS IN PARLIAMENT THEY WILL SHUT HIM OUT AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ELECTON SOON, THE LORD ALSO HAS SPOKEN THE BLOOD OF MANY INOCENT PEOPLE KILLED BY THIS GOVERMENT IS CRYING OTU FOR HIS JUSTICE AND THERE IS WRATH COMING FOR THIS NATION. STAND IN CONFIDENCE PROPHET THIS WAR IS NOT OVER YET,PROBABLY THE MILITARY WILL BE TAKING OVER SON IF THE TURMOIL CONTINUES THEREIS ALREADY THE WORD GOING AROUND ABOUT THIS.
    LETS CONTIUE TO PRAY THE CHURCH IS DIVIDED TOO.

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  • 9. Anto  |  December 31, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    Hi. I have read this prophecy….somebody tell me….isn’t it conflicting? God does not give one a message that is not clear. Please compare with this prophecy…..
    http://www.thomasmanton.com/prophecies/index.php?ctr_id=110&cnt_id=2

    Decide for yourself….. True prophets are to be proven!

    God Bless you all. Pray for this country, For Peace and Prosperity!

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  • 10. THEODORE  |  December 31, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    anto ithank the lord for your own opinion that you have expressed, ithank anne too for the reponse, and that is her opinion too, iam not answerable to none of you either,bu to the lord who spoke to me, the lord did speak his word it will come to pass, it may tarry but it willl surely come to pass,Thomas manton has been influenced by the corrupt church in kenya, everytime he comes to kenya he has mixed up with the apostate church leaders here in kenya just follow the churches he atends and his ministry friends here in kenya and you wil know which messeges they preach, panda mbegu and prosperity, well for the remnants they know what iam talking about, iam called to the remnant church not the apostate one, let them that have eyes see, there are those that have eyes but do not see, let them that have ears hear what the spirit says to the church, some do not have ears either,they have ears but they dont hear.
    Remember that Scripture tells us that the eyes of the Lord are forever looking to see who is faithful. The Lord sees what man and people’s plans and plots cannot see. The Lord surely is a rewarder of thsoe who are fervently praying and interceeding. The prayers of the righteous are forever imprinted on the heart of the Lord. he wil remember them even when you rig to blackmail him,

    It may be difficult to know why things happen sometimes but I want you to asure you that the hearts cry of the remnants wil be heard by the lord,
    heart’s cry and questions are the very ones the Lord Himself asked before His death- Why would his disciples not pray with him at that important hour? Why was the cup not taken from Him? Where was His Father- had He forsaken Him? We must remember the answer though that He never leaves nor forsakes us. God surely did not cause nor desires or wants injustice, hurt, pain, bloodshed.the lord has spoken to confirm what anne is saying, that why should he relent from judging this nation of kenya if the blood of many inocently killed under the watcful eyes of this goverment keep reaching his throne, he is not blind to the bloodshed and the riging and the division in the church,people are leaving churches and joining their tribesmen churches, this week alone many came to me saying they are leaving their churches because the church leaders ar e taking sides too, instead of relying on the word of the lord, when the lord gave me this word ihad to give it first to our church here and we have peole from all tribes, they belieed in it and gave confirmation and we all cried yesterday when we saw luos being chased from kikuyus houses, and when we heard that kikuyus houses were being burnt in kakamega, i cried when my brither called me yesterday and told me he was beaten by mungiki while the police watched and that they shouted pnu as they beat him and called him uncircumcised, anto this is what we are praying about, idont want to be approved by men iwant to be aproved by God how can carnal men aprove me, idont want their stinking aproval as long as God aproves me that is all icare about, right now we want the nation to be healed we dont want senseles arguments we should be on our knees praying for ourselves and family, there will be no peace, until the prince of peace comes in the hearts of men,REMEMBER AGABUS THE PROPHET THE GAVE APROPHECY THAT PAUL WAS GOING TO BE ARESTED AND BOUND BY HIS OWN BELT, BUT THAT PROPHECY DID NOT COME TO PASS THAT WAY,DID AGABUS CEASE THEN TO BE THE PROPHET? PROPHETS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WORDS THEY SPEAK THEY ARE WORDS OF THE LORD JESUS, AND THE CONSEQUENCES AND THE PERIOD OF MANIFESTATION BELONGS TO THE LORD, READ THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPHECY IN OUR WEBSITE,

    http://www.melqoshrain.wetpaint.com

    However, all can be used in the hands of the Lord even now. If the cross of Calvary could be turned into the greatest miracle of all histrory for our redemption can’t also the tribal wars and division be used in the hands of a mighty God?

    Continue faithful brother in the Lord. Recall that those who sow prayer, faithfulness, obedience to Him will recieve the crown of life and will be protected even amidst the apparent destruction. We are told, “no evil can befall (overtake) them.” We are told “he will prepare a table even in the presence of their enemies.” We are also told, “he will contend with those who content with thee (the righteous).” These are the things that we must continue holding on to regardless. Our peace of mind does not come from whether man’s plans are a certain way but from our confidence in Christ. Keep focusing on Him as the author and finisher of your faith and you will not be disappointed. This is how Paul in his letters was able to not be crushed, defeated, and utterly oppressed when he saw things hapening around him- because it never changed His God- focus.

    God bless you, all kenyans who long for peace and justice of the lord, lets join hands to pray for judgement againts the wicked men who sin in daylight before the public,we will continue praying and believing for the Lord’s peace and comfort to overshadow you during this time.

    Sincerely in Christ,
    Michele & Theodore Aluoch

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  • 11. magak  |  December 31, 2007 at 3:55 pm

    Sorry Anto, Prophets are not proven by men, God approves them,we always want to listen to mzungus and not to our own people, it easy to listen to mzungu than to our own prophets,we despise our prophets that fulfils scripture that prophets are not recieved i n their own home areas, iknow the prophet Theodore, Ihave sat under his ministry the glory of Go is so strong and miracles happen as he preaches,iahve seen angels in his meetings and the glory of God is wit him, last moth on one of his overnight meetings that are held in umoja innercore estate he told us that the lord was going to judge the nation and he was going to start from the eastern and coastal side of the country he spoke specificly and told us floods and mudslides tommorow, the next day in there was
    floods and mudslide in taveta remember it was on Tv we saw it,Previously he talked of locust invasion from the north, and the next week it was on Tv,
    for me iknow hi and respect him as afather in the spirit,he has an international ministry and travels oftenly to many nations but very humble, he doesnt have bodguards like some who go once and employ bodyguards, he is humble and very prayerful, ihave to defend my father iam an arrow in the quiver.
    magak

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  • 12. alien  |  December 31, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    I’d like to smoke what you’ve been smoking

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  • 13. Don  |  January 1, 2008 at 10:59 am

    I received Thomas Manton’s prohecy for Kenya 2007 from a friend on the 27th. I then decided to check out his website to see if it was posted there. Amazingly it was not and that disturbed me. I found that quite curious and I kept on checking the website on the 28th, 29th, 30th and 31st but it was not there. But today (1st Jan 2008) I checked and there it was!!!!. If indeed this was word from the Lord why wait until after the event has happened then post the prophecy. In my spirit I felt a rejection of that prophecy and what Theodore has said about Thomas Manton seems to vindicate my suspicions. However it is time to continue praying for Kenya and not enter into senseless debates. The Lord always watches over His word to perform it irrespective of what people say. It may tarry but will surely come to pass. Be encouraged. Don

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  • 14. Janet  |  January 2, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Who doesnt know that this word has come to pass. Indeed Raila won the elections but you know it is being confirmed daily that there was rigging on the president´s part. The win is causing the church to pray.
    I believe every word of the Lord and His purposes will be accomplished. Let us as believers continue to pray and ask for mercy.
    The truth is the deep rooted hatred among tribes is being exposed. We need to repent for our tribalism. It is time to repent.

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  • 15. augo wo.  |  January 2, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Jesus spoke through his servant Theodore and i have no doubt about it because it came to pass word by word.Raila won and the re were confirmations that the Lord gave us that Raila is a Cyrus Jehovah is raising for this country and He gave us Isaiah 45 for this and Jeremiah 1;8&10.Those who are doubting God because of what is happening are not walking in the spirit right now but are walking in the flesh.The fact that Raila has not been sworn in as the next President of Kenya does not make God be a liar because he has never lied.Jehovah says that we believe in him and also his prophets.I do not align myself with someone because he comes from my tribe NO.God has called me to walk by faith and not by sight and all tribes in this nation have equal rights of being here because God did put has all here.My brother Theodore,let your focus stay on Him who called you from darkness to his marvelous light and careless those ‘christians’ who are calling you a liar because their thoghts have not been renewed by the word of God nad have refused to walk in their calling.Forget men,the time is critical and we need God to uproot the sinful wicked man out of power and put his own so that the country may start healing.
    God bless and continue doing God’s will and speaking what he has said and not your thoughts.Concerning Thomas Manton,God will expose him for who he is. Am not convinced that the Lord spoke to him. Why would he say THe Lord spoke to him when God exposed before has all the electoral malpractise that were being carried out before the cameras and how ECk chairman showed that he did not care about what people said and the manner in which deceit carried the day in swearing in of the the so called president whom the whole country rejected through the ballot box? Jesus is Lord and will never lie.

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  • 16. kiokop  |  January 2, 2008 at 11:33 am

    i agree with the words of the alouch-phrophet

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  • 17. vick  |  January 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Theodore,God bless u and may He increase the annointing in u.Especialy that seeing eye.

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  • 18. Anto  |  January 2, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Well Brethren, I hear you. Claims and evidence of cheating in the elections were in all camps by the way – there’s none holier than the other! There is noone’s victory that is clear, so please dont be too sure that a particluar candidate won!

    Thomas’ prophecy had been told before the elections and Don can confirm that. Website updates are never always up-to-date. This is one Man that prophecied before the previous general election with an interesting accuracy.
    I am just wondering, besides some of the arguments in these views/blogs, the fact is… Kibaki is currently the president. How do you prophetically account for that?
    Why do these arguments appear to imply that God was taken by surprise on Kibaki’s “win”? Something is missing here!
    I must admit that I know little about spiritual matters and prophecies, but the question is simple. Is it true that Kibaki is the president of Kenya or not? Shall we then ignore Kibaki’s status and deny the outcome, seeing that Leadership and Nations are established by God?

    I am wrong on the proving of prophets, indeed they are not to be proven by man…forgive my ignorance.

    Prophet Theodore: How do you differentiate the apostates and the remnants? Is it based on the prosperity gospel that some are proven apostates, by their fruit and/or what else? Please elaborate.

    I agree that we must pray against the mass murder and evictions taking place country-wide and especially for one particular tribe that appears helpless by virtue of being in regions where they “do not belong”!

    God bless you.

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  • 19. Nandi raider  |  January 2, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    How will god get rid of the sore loser? Let me guess disease,plane crush,assassination or vote of no confidence. All i know is kibaki will never resign! Its romoured he killed his father

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  • 20. Anto  |  January 2, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    Unfortunately Nandi Raider……, If God says it is him, what can man do? If God says it is his time to go, what can man do? No matter the devil you and others have made him to be, God still chose him.
    Why the rumours now…where were they before?

    Nandi Raider: I wish you would realize that you did not choose where you were to be born, how you would look or what language would be your mother tongue!

    Nandi Raider: Why does your nickname sound so evil?

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  • 21. Nandi raider  |  January 2, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Anto, god is just and only kibaki’s death can save kenya. Time will tell watch this thread,am a warrior anto in btw

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  • 22. Nandi raider  |  January 2, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Anto, god is just and only kibaki’s death can save kenya. Time will tell watch this thread,am a warrior anto in btw

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  • 23. Theodore  |  January 2, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    The thief cometh only to kill steal and destroy, John10:10
    then who came and stole the votes? and what follwed killing, and destroying, who is the author of all these? God is not the one who is the author of all these. the father of lies is also the devil and when he tells alie he talks his native language, Kibaki must repent of lying and kalonzo to repent of hypocrysy, he is the one who pushed kivuitu to anounce the results prematurely with the p.n.u guys, God has spoken through his holy spirit that he gave power to Raila but aman took it from him, now God will deal with the man KIbaki. the blood has been shed brethrens the lord has seen our land of kenya soiled with blood of the inocent, and the lord will bring forth justice swiftly, kibaki must repent and step down for peace to prevail, ilove kikuyus and luyhas and luos and the other tribes we are all kenyans and children of the lord but one selfish man cannot hold the country and let blood be shed like it is, the blood is in his hands,the church cannot reconcile the nation either there are those churches that are praying for kibaki and there are those churches that are praying for Raila and this is division and the lord does not answer adivided church, the church should unite first instead of trying to unite the nation while it is not united on its own, we cannot bring desmond tutu to negotiate anything also he is openly suporting homosexuality in south africa and we allow him to bring his pervesion here kenyan church leaders should shut him out until he repents on his sentiments that homosexuality is okay, the tolerant church that is tolerant on sins cannot speak for this nation apostate churches that are liberal and preach silver and gold but do not want to preach the bllod and the cross of Jesus should be shut out, repentance and holiness is the only way forward,
    the apostates are the compromised churches the defiled churches, the churches that kibaki has been feeding and they are now quiet because they cannot talk about those that feed them you can see them with their flowery gowns and big stomachs and religious verbatim and theological nonsense, we cannot pray now what have we been doing all this time, why do we wait to pray only when there is trouble? why did we not pray then, why wait until now? now lets only pray for judgement let kibaki be humble and repent, the proud will only be abased, and the humble will be exalted.
    lets all pray for the justice of the lord to prevaila nd to prevail quickly.
    Theodore

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  • 24. John Das  |  January 3, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Praise the Lord, Brethren in Kenya. This is Pastor John Das, son of Apostle Das Founder of Chrisco Fellowship in Kenya. I would like to say that our prayers are with you all . Although I am not physically there in Kenya this time, my heart aches because of your present pain. God has a tremendous purpose for Kenya which must be fullfilled. Please have faith, and pray like never before…. May God sincerely Bless you. My Father Apostle Harry Das is releasing his official statment at www. DasMinistries.com. He and my mother have been laboring for Christ in the Nation of Kenya for almost 30 years.

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  • 25. kinyeketile  |  January 3, 2008 at 10:42 am

    it is strange two prophets hear from the same God and hear different messages. One say Kibaki will be re-elected the other say Raila will be president. Then when the other guy prohecy come short he starts accusing the other to belong to a certain group. WHat i believe is GOd is almight than no man cn withstand against his wish. My own observation is maybe the votes were stolen from both sides (pnu and odm) has accused each other. After the stolen votes are returned we may go back to the same point Kibaki will still be the winner.

    To me Manton is a prophet of GOd and this based on the 2002 prophecy. And why Kibaki has won (stealing perception was unfortunate) was to prove to Raila that He never brought Kibaki to power as he kept saying for the last five years but God brought him and it is unfortunate for Raila GOd has brought Kibaki back.

    About the killing it a sad day for Kenya that anyone should die when thye don’t even know what ECK stands for. But Raila had a chance to make himself a real statesman when results were announced to accept defeat but he didn’t hence according to my own analysis he has lost mileage he may work very hard to recover.

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  • 26. John Das  |  January 3, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Official Statement/Press Release from Apostle Harry Das

    I, Apostle Harry Das along with my wife, as Preachers and Teachers of the Word of God operating in Kenya for over 30 years, and as the founder(s) of Chrisco Fellowship of Churches, would like to make the following official statement: I am asking for all people who love God and are truly “Saved” to refrain from acting with bitterness, hatred, tribal prejudice or involvement with murderous behaviour, but to act in forgiveness, love and mercy. Cry for peace and through prayer, bind the ravenous spirits of bloodshed that have come upon the Nation, because as Christians we are taught by the Bible according to Ephesians 6:10-18, that during times of upheavals and killings there are always Evil Spirits working behind the scenes to cause death, destruction and chaos. God assures us that He is a God of Mercy, and during times of wrath and judgment, he can temper the severity of the situation because of His mercy (Habakkuk 3:2). This is the position all Christians should take now, not to depend on natural weapons to defend us during this perilous time, but to rely on Spiritual help as stated in 2Chorinthians 10:4-5. God says to use the power of Prayer! Prayer is what will pull down all strongholds and bring peace to the hearts of those who are committing violent acts. Jesus said in Matthew 5:9, Blessed are the Peace Makers, for they shall be called the children of God. Follow the ways of peace, and pray that the honest process of democracy will prevail. On behalf of all Chrisco Churches, Pastors and Members, our thoughts and prayers are with the families and loved ones of those Kenyans who have been killed, maimed or displaced during the past few days. May God have mercy on us, May God have mercy on Kenya.

    Apostle Harry Das
    http://www.DasMinistries.com

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  • 27. Esther  |  January 3, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    I do not know you so i will want to ay anything about you… The bible say.. Touch not my anoited.. .. but i do not agree with you that we should not pray instead we should ask for judgement..God say.. I CHANGES NOT…has Jere 33 ;3 and Plsm 50 :15 lost it meaning?

    Raila is romoured to beleive and practice witchcraft.. its is said that where his help come from to pull the masses…surprisingly… he has never denied… not any time that iam aware of.. The day Tuju publicly told him about it was the last he attacked Tuju gain.

    If this is true… do you think God having said He want to use Kenya for end time ministry can give us such aleader.

    You are the first prophet to hear you say that God had given presidency to RAILA to lead Kenya…

    On friday 28th Dec 07 when i say Riala leading with amagin of about 1M… i totaly believed that Riala will be the next president of Kenya… i told God.. your words says that you do not share your glory…what has happened.. I told God.. even if Raila become the next president.. I know you are in control and i slept..

    That very night… i had a vision… I say…Oil being pored on Kibaki and he held a bible in his hand saying…i will be the next president for the next five years , So help me God.

    Kibaki might have rigged but remember Abraham lied to safe himself and his wife and God was still in control…. infact, only Prophet Dr.Owour can speak and believe anything about Riala.

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  • 28. Manton is an ass  |  January 3, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Manton predicts thinks after they happen and backdates them.i cant believe kenyans can be so naive 2take his word.. Are all kikuyus demons? Kikuyus should be banned from marryin each other 2cleanse evil blood

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  • 29. anto  |  January 3, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Alryt. I have seen your responses my Nandi Raider brother and your wish for Kibaki’s death is UNfortunate. For Heaven’s sake – he is the president of kenya by all means and you cannot say that! God has allowed Him to be the president for the time being and if God did not meet our expectations, we should be asking ourselves why; But let us first address the current crisis.

    I would also like to note here that if Raila was such a nationalist, why did he not go for the elected members meeting with the president? If he was such a nationalist along with his friend Ruto, why dont they go to Kisumu and Eldoret and ask THEIR FOLLOWERS to stop the mass killings and evictions of their kikuyu/kisii brothers.? Why are they so pre-occupied with the presidency at the expense of Kenyans lives. I would like to pose a simple question…. DO YOU THINK KIBAKI HAS GREATER INFLUENCE IN ELDORET AND KISUMU MORE THAN RUTO AND RAILA in those areas respectively….Come on people!!!! These are the influential regional/community leaders for the Luos and the Kalenjins and other ODM supporters. Why is it that there is bloodshed from their own regions? It is funny to note that other pro-ODM tribes and supporters in Mt. Kenya region being persecuted as at the time of my writing this blog!….I Am not sure if it will have started by now, but God forbid!

    I agree with Prophet Theodore about Desmond Tutu….that is the wrong way to go and I believe if we submit to his leadership ..we myt just add one more curse for this nation!

    Let us stop the kikuyuism, luoism, kalenjinism and all regionalism in our villages and in the country at large. What has messed the country is principally the tribal card! Right now as much as we are praying, lets pray that our leaders will go back to their own people/supporters or their areas of influence and ask these people to calm down. Or can we say that they cannot control them???

    Prophet Theodore: If Raila and ODM at large were so humble….would there be bloodshed such as we are seeing now? If he was so humble, would he not put kenya first rather than the pre-occupation of being president? would he not go to his people and ask them to STOP!!? Why are Ruto and Raila busy headed and mobilizing people to go to Uhuru park while their supporters are involved in mass destruction of lives and property? Are they not intelligent enough to know that this will continue escalating polarization at this time? If one was neutral, then they would unfortunately conclude that THE PRESIDENCY IS OF MORE IMPORTANCE TO RAILA, RUTO (and some ODM elements) THAN KENYAN LIVES AND THE KENYAN ECONOMY.

    Do you also feel it is rational to say that Kibaki is feeding some churches…..sounds like bias to me prophet! I am sure you are referring to the catholic church which has come out twice with a neutral stand! Kibaki is so evil that he needs to repent? As much as I agree that he needs to repent, my brother, please state here that ALL KENYANS SHOULD REPENT and not just Kibaki and Kalonzo! I am amazed by you prophet…that you cannot see any evil with ODM Leaders and neither can you see reasons why they should repent as well.

    I think we are all bright enough to see that Kibaki’s stepping down will not stop bloodshed…Infact it will escalate the war against the tribes of Mt. kenya….and we ALL know that! ODM preached majimbo….The other day in Ntimama’s region, when Raila’s vote-gap was wide against Kibaki’s, he insighted masai’s into evicting kikuyus because “majimbo has come”! You can see what is happening to Rift-Valley. If these things are being done now when there is authority, how much more would this happen if ODM was in power? Think about it.

    With all due respect Prophet…ALL SHOULD HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND REPENT, not just Kibaki.

    Many will say that I am biased but I pity my Mt Kenyan brothers who seem to be the principle victims of this violence. All the more, I pity all kenyans that have degraded themselves to acts of violence, tribalism and killings. I also pity those of us who know that there is a higher power up above but are not reaching out to Him for the healing, forgiveness and Unity of our land.

    Our HEAVENLY FATHER, in YESHUA’s name, We HUMBLE ourselves as a Nation, at least those of us in this Nation that are seeking your face for this Nation, May You have MERCY on us and FORGIVE us as Kenya, for we have become TRIBAL and are filled with HATE; FORGIVE us for we have upheld VANITY in worship, actions, politics and material things; FORGIVE US for not being thankful to You for all You have done for Kenya through generational Peace, Unity, Stability and economic gains. Please CHANGE our hearts through an outpouring of Your Mercy and the Holy Spirit, that we may embrace LOVE for You and for each other, that we may embrace FORGIVENESS for each other and that we may embrace HUMILITY. Father, please choose to hear the prayer in our National Anthem which we have sang throughout the generations; though in Vain, please choose to listen and answer for we are but simple humans. Please listen and answer all who are genuinely calling out for You and Your intervention all across the country. We plead with you oh GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, not to Forsake the nation of Kenya, but to court the Kenyan Nation once again just as you showed mercy to the Nation of Israel. Restore the Nation’s respect across the world and may Kenya produce ambassadors, ministers and teachers of Your Gospel and Peace to the world, just as you had began doing. May Kenya be a place of rest once again and an example of peace, development and great Leadership to the region and the world. We ask this in the mighty name of YESHUA of Nazareth…AMEN!

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  • 30. wycliffe  |  January 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Anto,be carefull how you approach the things of GOD.God is not like man that he should lie and the manner in which you attack men of God through this blog shows you have no fear of GOD in you.Be careful lets the wrath of GOD falls on you.Remember what happened to miriam and her group when they raised their voice against moses.Learn from other people’s mistake and fear GOD.The things of GOD do not take worldly dimensions has you may want them to be and his time of fullfillment is not based on man’s timing.So think again and be very carefull in what you say about men of GOD

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  • 31. anto  |  January 3, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Wycliffe, Thanks for the warning. I did not mean to make it appear like an attack…and I am not trying to apoligize to him or yourself but don’t take offence of my opinion. Appreciate that NONE is perfect!

    Indeed Wycliffe, I appreciate the warning and I will continue seeking God’s face for the Truth, though being young in the faith. Seek ye the truth as well.

    Shall we then dismiss other prophetic voices and write them off as apostates without being like the Bereans? This is a nation at stake my brother and there are many prophets saying many things.

    What does the New Testament tell us about prophets? We shall know them by their Fruit! Why ask us to pray for Judgment rather than Mercy? – I need to understand this statement.

    I am willing to give all prophecies time for their fulfillment. I fear God not men! I will continue working out my Salvation in fear and trembling so that I may also grow and learn more about the fear of God.

    At the end of all this, God’s will prevails for Kenya, the earth and the heavens.

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  • 32. Journey Man  |  January 3, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Anto I like your style. The Bible says in 1John 4:1
    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. It’s OK to respectfully question everyone. Men are men. All will lay down and die. dust to dust. I really like your style. How long have you been saved? You might have a teaching gift in you.

    and Esther from earlier…. no one is touching the “Lord’s anointed”
    But keep in mind…
    1. God told Moses he would destroy the Isrealites, Moses begged God for mercy (interceded) and God changed His plan.
    2. God told Hezekiah that he was going to die, Hezekiah begged for mercy and God changed His plan.
    3. Why do you think Jonah did not want to go to Ninevah, because Jonah knew that if the people cried out for mercy, God would change His plan of destroying them.

    God wants us to cry out for mercy… God will have mercy on Kenya if we cry out…. Prophecy or no prophecy… That is the nature of our God.

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  • 33. Nandi raider  |  January 3, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    U have heard how this tool kibaki is talking. Let all 41 tribes turn against him.i pray the police and the army to go tribal too

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  • 34. st paul  |  January 3, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    There is only one way to know a true prophet. if his word comes to pass. i say Theodore, let God prove Himself that He sent you. He always confirms the word of His servants. and i know He will confirm what He told you. like in the old testament, false prophets also exist today. May God save this country from all those who wish and propagate evil in it. i say to all believers: Lets pray for our Country.

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  • 35. Theodore  |  January 3, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    First of all i want to thank Apostle Das, and John Das for writing, i respect him and his work, that he has done here in Kenya, my Dad serves in his church, and i know him to be a true apostle living today, i remember what you preached on the last convention at nyayo stadium that Kenya must repent, i gues they did not repent then, they repent with their mouths but their hearts are far away from God, their fear towards God is taught by the precepts of men,
    The word has come to pass, Raila won, HE WANTS WHAT BELONGS TO HIM, and kibaki stole the votes and all of us saw it,it was on Tv, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL, MENNE, MENNE. TEKEL,, YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND WANTING MR KIBAKI, kibaki stole the votes let him accept that he stole the votes first, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray, first let him humble himself by admitting that he stole the votes then secondly let him turn from his wicked ways let him leave the seat, then you will see Raila do the same, then after this we can pray what have we been doing all this time praying or playing church and religion and then when trouble come we pray prayer must be a lifestyle , we must always be in prayer God is A GOD OF MERCY BUT ALSO JUDGMENT, IT IS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD THERE IS MERCY AND ALSO JUDGMENT, WHEN WE ABUSE THE MERCY LIKE KENYA HAS DONE THEN WE GET THE SWORD, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND REREAD THE PROPHECY IT HAS COME TO PASS.
    JERE 11, THE LORD TOLD JEREMIAH NOT TO PRAY FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO HEAR THE PRAYER EVEN IF MOSES OFFERED IT, THEIR BACKSLIDING WAS GREAT, WHERE WAS GODS MERCY THERE, HE COULD NOT LISTEN TO PRAYERS OF MOSES, MOST OF US WANT THE JESUS WHO WAS MEEK AND MILD, WE DON’T WANT THE JESUS WHO WAS MEAN AND WILD WHO MADE A CHORD OF WHIP AND WHIPPED THE HYPOCRITES FROM THE TEMPLE, HE WAS FED UP WITH THE DUNG STINKING URINE IN THE TEMPLE AND HE HAD TO TAKE A WHIP AND CHASE THEM OUT AND WHIP THEM TOO, THIS SAME JESUS CALLED THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHITEWASHED TOMBS FULL OF DEAD MANS BONES, HE CALLED HEROD A FOX, HE CALLED THIS GENERATION SONS OF SNAKES, THIS DISOBEDIENT GENERATION, THE MERCY OF THE LORD IS FOR MEN TO COME TO REPENTANCE, RAILA REPENTED, IF YOU DID NOT SEE IT ON TV, ASK THE KTN PEOPLE TO GIVE YOU THE VIDEOS, HE WAS PRAYED FOR AT THE WAB HOTEL BURUBURU, BY ABOUT FIVE BISHOPS AND THE FIRST THING HE SAID WITH HIS MOUTH AFTER THAT WAS I RECIEVED THE LORD AND THE NEXT WORDS WERE CHRIST IS LORD, THE BIBLE SAYS NO ONE CAN SAY CHRIST IS LORD ONLY BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD, 2PETER,
    IT IS BLASPHEMY FOR YOU TO SAY THAT BECAUSE KIBAKI LIED HE IS TO RECEIVE MERCY BECAUSE ABRAHAM LIED TOO, ABRAHAM HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED HIM IN THEIR HEARTS ARE SUPPOSE TO BE CALLED CHILDREN OF GOD JOHN 1:12, IF KIBAKI HAS NOT RECEIVED HIM THEN HE IS NOT A CHILD OF GOD, BUT A CHILD OF THE DEVIL ONLY THE FATHER OF LIES BEGETS LIARS, YOU ARE RIGHT ON ONE THING ANTO ALL KENYANS MUST REPENT IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REPENTING IT IS REPENTANCE AND HOLINESS,THERE IS NO MORE NEED FOR MASSIVE REPENTANCE WHERE PEOPLE HIDE AND REPENT WITH THEIR MOUTH BUT THEY DON’T MEAN IT IN THEIR HEART, YOUR MOUTH MUST MATCH YOUR HEART FOR GOD TO HEAR YOU, I HAVE BEEN IN THIS PROPHETIC MINISTRY FOR 12 YEARS AND WILL NOT PLEASE ANY ONE AND CEASE TO BE A SERVANT OF THE LORD JESUS, GAL 1:10,
    IHAVE LEADERS IN OUR MINISTRY FROM EVERY TRIBE AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND ALL OF US WANT PEACE HERE BUT PEACE WILL NOT COME IF MEN CONTINUE TO DENY THEIR SIN AND THEY SHOW GOD THEIR ARROGANCE BY NOT ACCEPTING THEY SINNED IN THE FIRST PLACE
    I PRAY FOR RAILA TO HUMBLE HIMSELF AND BACK OFF AND LET THE LORD GOD WHO STRUCK DOWN ANANIAS AND SAPHIRA DEAD WHEN THEY LIED BEFORE HIM, LET HIM TRUST THE LORD TO DO THE STRIKING AND THE JUSTICE OF THE LORD IS QUICK HIS JUSTICE WILL BE QUICK, AS LONG AS WE DON’T FIGHT FOR GOD THEN HE WILL FIGHT FOR US, I ASK THE ODM TO MOVE FROM THE WAY AND WATCH THE LORD JUDGING KIBAKI THEY ARE BLOCKING HIS WAY,
    KIBAKI SHOULD REMEMBER THAT WHAT HE HAS DONE TO OTHER TRIBES WILL BE DONE TO HIS TRIBE IN THE FUTURE, THE BIBLE SAYS WHAT YOU DO UNTO OTHERS WILL BE DONE UNTO YOU,
    GOD WILL VINDICATE HIS WORD HE WATCHES IT FULFILL IT, IF YOU WANT TO PRAY AND THE LORD HAS GIVEN YOU THE BURDEN TO PRAY PLEASE DO PRAY, BUT HE HAS SAID WE PRAY FOR OURSELVES, THIS IS JUDGMENT COMING TO [APOSTATES CHURCH AND STATE, LETS ALL PRAY FOR JUSTICE TO COME QUICKLY, THERE IS BLOOD ON THE GROUND OF KENYA OF PEOPLE KILLED LONG AGO INNOCENTLY AND THE LORD IS JUDGING KENYA, I KNOW WHAT THE LORD TOLD ME I WILL NOT REVERT FROM IT, THE LORD WILL CONFIRM IT, ABOUT THE PROPHETIC MINISTRY GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND READ MORE ABOUT WHAT THE NEW TESTAMENT PROPHET IS TO DO, IN THIS DISPENSATION OF THE HOLY GHOST THE SHEEP MUST HEAR THE VOICE OF THE GREAT SHEPHERD, I KNOW THAT VOICE THOSE WHO DO NOT KNIOW THAT VOICE ARE NOT SHEEPS BUT GOATS, AWORD IS CONFIRMED BY TWO OR THERE WITNESSES IHAD OVER FIVE WITNESSES CONFIRMATION FROM DIFRENT TRIBES INCLUDING KIKUYUS AND ALL THESE ARE INTERCESSORS AND PROPHETS, AND APOSTLES AND PASTORS, BEFORE I PUBLISHED THE WORD, SO IF YOU DON’T LIE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME TRIBAL INCLINATION IN YOUR HEART REPENT WE CANNOT PRAY OR GET THE PURE WORD FORM GOD WITH TRIBAL INCLINATIONS IN OUR HEARTS WE MUST STRIP OFF ANY OF THAT THEN LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF THE LORD, WE ARE PRAYING FOR JUSTICE OF THE LORD LETS ALL REPENT INDIVIDUALLY, THE TEMPLE OF GOD STARTS WITH YOU NOT SOME CROWDS PRAYING TO GATHER,
    WE HAVE THE ANSWER AS THE CHURCH WE CAN PRAY AGAINST THE STURBONESSS OF THE HEART OF OUR LEADERS, BUT WE CANT PRAY AS A CHURCH THAT IS DIVIDED SO THE CHURCH MUST UNITE FIRST THEN THEY CAN UNITE THE COUNTRY, IF WE HAVE BEEN PRAYING WHY DINT WE SEE ALL THESE COMING?, WE SAW IT AND WARNED THE NATION BUT NO ONE LISTENED, SO REREAD OUR PROPHECY AT OUR WEBSITE LINK GIVEN ABOVE AND YOU WILL SEE IT,
    PROPHET OWUOR TOLD THE NATION TO REPENT THEY REFUSED REMEMBER THE CHURCH LEADERS MOCKED HIM, AND TRIED TO EVEN KILL HIM, WELL THE EARTHQUAKE CAME AND THOSE PREACHERS SHUT THEIR MOUTHS, I SAW BLOODSHED DURING THIS ELECTION AND WE HAVE SEEN IT COME TO PASS, LETS NOT WASTE TIME HERE ARGUING ABOUT NONSENSE AND PRAY FOR SAFETY OF THE RIGHTEOUS, THE WICKED WILL PERISH, KENYANS MUST REPENT OR PERISH THAT IS THE MESSAGE OF THE KINGDOM WHOEVER DOES NOT LIKE IT CAN JUMP IN THE LAKE AND DROWN HIMSELF.
    LET THE PRINCE OF PEACE COME INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE KILLING THEN THERE WILL BE PEACE, LET OUR PREACHERS GO OUT THERE AND PREACH TO THESE GUYS W WILL BE GOING TO KIBERA TO PREACH PRAY FOR US.
    GOD BLESS ALL KENYANS AND UNITE ALL TRIBES
    THEODORE&MICHELE

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  • 36. concerned believer  |  January 4, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Kindly write in Small Caps, Theodore. It makes reading what you have to say easier.

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  • 37. Michele  |  January 4, 2008 at 1:44 am

    Have you no fear of God anymore, people who would attack my anointed prophet Theodore? Be not narrow minded to think that just because things don’t happen in your limited, intellectual, philosophical way they are somehow not God. Who thought that when the God of all creation told Noah to build an ark it was reasonable and made sense when no rain had come and arks were not built. Man’s logic failed. Praise the Lord for that! Likewise, the Lord would reprimand those who are saying, “prophet Theodore is not a true prophet because things have not come to pass such and such way.” What!!! They have not happened the way people’s minds think? How dare any of us tell the living God how they will come to pass. I praise the Lord for willing, loyal, devoted vessels of God like Theodore who I myself have witnessed pray, travail, and cry out to God. He will never tell you that because he is a true prophet- far too focused on weeping before the cross of Christ, ministering to souls, and only desiring the Lord glorified. I can attest to how his very being cries in utterings and groanings to the Lord for God’s own heart. Do you not fear the Lord? It is only God who judges the thoughts and intents of the heart. As for me, I have consistently seen the fruit of the time, commitment, humility, and heart Theodore has. I can only hope we all fall on our faces before the living God right now without delay and cry out to him for His Will, His way not our logic and human frailty about needing to see results a certain way and telling His how to be God. The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof Scripture tells us. It is the Lord’s so let’ s repent of our divisions and striving spirits. All of this junk is breeding more spirits of distraction from the kingdom work. The Lord would say, “while people are busy arguing I still have souls in the balance. I still have things to pour out upon the nations. Will you heed His call with me and Theodore? I will fall on my face with Theodore before God and cry out for the Lord to keep fulfilling the prophecy that He has already spoken as He chooses, realizing how we never dare tell the Lord how to do His job. As for me I will stand firmly with remnants and the living God and believing with Theodore that in God’s appointed time and due season (GOD”S SEASON- NOT OURS) that that which the Lord has spoken will come perfectly to pass so only the Lord’s name be glorified. Amen.
    Michele & Theodore

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  • 38. Journey Man  |  January 4, 2008 at 7:25 am

    Wow!!! This is hot stuff!!!

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  • 39. Michele  |  January 4, 2008 at 7:38 am

    And I woke up after a holy time in God’s presence in which the Lord continued speaking. “My church must beware- too many are saying, ‘Lord, Lord’ and the truth is far from it. Too many want to accept 1/2 truths that tickle their ears. Too many are married to tolerance, arrogance, pride, religious spirits, Jezebel, division, strife, and disunity. Too many are secretly calling out after other God’s even holding Bibles in their hands that are not holy hands. Too many have lifted hands praying in circles to Jesus but having gray and black poisoned tongues.

    And the Lord spoke, I will only allow the hands of my servants to hold anointing, not forms and fashions of godliness so I must release judgment upon injustice. I have held my wrath for so long. Do you not recall that very time I was slow and gracious to extend mercies repeatedly I gave the people time to repent. But when I look, says the Lord, I see very few truly repenting, very few asking to be married to my true gospel- to be my pure, spotless, blameless bride. No one, be it in politics or wherever, who claims the name of the Lord Jesus but who will not live in the full gospel shall stand.

    Do you not understand, my people, those who have ears to hear, that now as I must pour out my justice it is because I love you and am even now calling you back to truth and proper foundations in me? I desire you to not take parts of my holy Scripture and religiously apply it to your tickling ears for your own desired outcome and ways. It is time you accept that I must be true to my Word which cannot return void. I cannot lie. I will discipline and chasten those I love. I love my church- the genuine remnants who are left to stand on my truth when the crowd say crucify him all the while.

    Concerned believer, do not reprimand the servant of the Lord for something so petty as typing and lettering when we have real issues dear to the very heart of God. When the Lord is angry and speaks of justice and a cord of wrath we must speak it in that way- not adjust to the crowds and tickling ears. Better we should stand only on what the Lord says, not our religious ways of doing things to get man’s approval, not “easy” gospels. If the Lord screams and loves His church enough to be a loving disciplinarian than let us speak in such manner too. We need not adjust the message and tone or we become living in fear and subject to religious spirits which adjust things to tolerance and placating rather than simply being mouthpiece for the Lord. There is a price to be paid for not stating tings exactly as the Lord says. Thank you to prophet Theodore for always paying the price without caring about tempering the message of the living God. In this day and age I beseech you, brothers and sisters, are you willing for the sake of the cross to also speak love and mercy when the Lord calls for it but truth and justice when that is what the Lord calls for also? I pray we all stop at nothing less than this. Remember we are simply the vessels to deliver HIS messages. His messages were so strong at timeswe forget that HE braided the whip, HE threw over tables, HE yelled “woe” (a term that has a very, very angry meaning in the literal meaning of the day) to the Pharisees and Saducees with religious spirits, told his disciples to shake the dust off their feet and have nothing to do with those who would not hear the full gospel,etc. So let us, too, speak EXACTLY AS THE LORD SPEAKS FOR HE ALONE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING. To Him be all the glory.
    Michele
    Michele

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  • 40. Worldly  |  January 4, 2008 at 10:24 am

    God exists yes, sometimes he cares but at times not. Mugabe has been rulling like kibaki but god hasnt done anything to show he cares who’s the leader. God only cares of life after death

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  • 41. Rachael G.  |  January 4, 2008 at 11:29 am

    I think we need to repent as a nation-all of us. We are children of God and Kenya looks up to us to stand in the gap. Let’s not take sides. instead let’s pray for the purposes of God to prevail in this nation.

    If God has already chosen the leader He desires, then let’s ask Him to make a way for these issues to be resolved. One thing i’ve learnt about the key to answered prayers is praying with sincerity. We can not go before God with anger and bitterness, praying against certain tribes or people.

    We need to ask God to heal our hearts first and to forgive us for taking sides. Then from there we can sincerely pray for our nation. I believe that if we are not sincere while we pray, then there’s no need of praying.

    One other thing i would urge all believers to do is to avoid negative words. When we engage in negative talk about our country, we displease God because we appear as though we don’t have faith in God being able to restore us.

    Remember Isaiah 61.That’s our mandate as children of God. We are annointed to preach good tidings to the meek, to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives….You can accomplish all these when your heart is set right on God. Let me and you be the ones that will bring reconcilliation and sow sincere prayers in the lives of our people.

    God bless you prophet Theodore. Maybe what i would like to ask wich i didn’t get from the links is; who is the leader that God has chosen for Kenya?

    Thank you.

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  • 42. Esther  |  January 4, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    I agree with Theodore that we should repent as a nation and as individual and more so those who are called by the name of Yehushua … as i had stated aelier you are God annoited and i do not want to say whether you are true or false.. The God who choose you did not consult anyone in choosing you and will bring to pass what He has told you..its my humble request to anyone reading his phrophesy not to call him a false prophet unless you are sure of what you are saying lest God ask you question the way He asked Job…a group of about 8 people attacked Wairimu Nelson prophesies sometime back..now about 7 of them are deep down in the grave so take care before calling Him untrue prophet.

    All the same. Raila still has witchcraft shrine..even Ngilu has them..please let the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob reavel to you the truth..even in PNU side.. there are those who consult the spirit of the dead accually even some Kikuyu…but Kibaki himself has his help,stenghth and power coming from Jehovah. ..Remember, its not the Pastors, Bishops or Revered praying for you.. its your own personal determination to distance youself and abadon witchracft and evel spirit.

    You know God is our Father and we are His children..He is our creator..He say we cannot ask for bread and He give us stone.. The truth is that Raila was destined to win becouse even myself at around September 2007.. i saw Raila winning having ganned 3.7m vote against Kibaki 3.4m votes..but since them ,christian have cancelled His presidency from the time he signed a memoradum calling us worshiper of the cross ..i hope you saw that memeradum with muslims.

    its happens that whatever God show me in dream or vision.. He show me so that i can pray about it. there are times i have ignored so many things God show me even deaths,.. but they all come to happen in three months time..God shows me things so that i can pray against it.

    A group of about 20 people have been fasting and praying that Let the David of today rule Kenya…Let the person anoited by God rule kenya.. We cancelling all goliath power against Kenya.. we prayed that God will give us aleader whose help only come from he Lord… toward the end of fasting and prayers God showed so many of our prayer group members that its is Kibaki…we also pray and fast for Raila for God to change Him and use him as He please… A friend of mine who worked with Dr Owour keep seeing Jesus physically either holding a clock which is about to reach noon or holding a lamb has been asked by the Lord to pray for Raila safety ..Kindly join in prayer and cancell any evil hand of the devil upon him.

    The truth Is God know everything..He searches the heart and He know each and every person by his or her name..I believe the Earthquakes Dr Prophet Owour had warned against are the one we experinced in August but becouse of the prayer of Saints that God Almighty reduced the Magnitude..remember we can only hold God by His word..that even if its two people who were are rightious He will not destroy this nation.

    Who are we praying to be judged? In my opinion… it’s those people who have no respect for God place of worship… those who dare to touch a church and through back a three year old child in to the fire… its he who encourage hatred and see no God creation in another human being from another tribe… its those who believe that Kikuyu are not supposed to be in Kenya where are God did not consult them when He placed all Kenyan tribes alongside each other…by the way, have they ever asked themselves why Kikuyu prosper where ever they go.

    The bible say… pray for one another…let pray and respect one another whether turkana , kikuyu , luo or maasai becouse they were all created in God image…Let pray that God may pour His wisdom among our leader and allow the prince of peace to reign and live among us.

    i would like to refer you to awebsite of this servant of God who we have been praying together for this nation.

    http://www.amightywind.com

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  • 43. MICHAEL WANYAMA  |  January 4, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    well. i dont normaaly argue with prophets. it is not good. i thank god atleast my apostle , harry das has added his voice to this matter.we have seen that kibaki grabbed power by un orthodox means. the swearing in was even more horrifying, the speed the place and the people who were there leaves a lot to be desired. how could a president be sworn in without even the presence of the clergy . were our bishops , were they not aware that kibaki won. any way lets pray god who removed nebuchardnezer from the state house is able to handle kibaki. i believe that a solution is soon comming. love , forgiveness and repentance as apstles das has said are very impotant now.

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  • 44. wycliffe  |  January 4, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    My bible tells me that God rules in the affairs of men and what we have now is a situation where God will glorify his name.As i read many messages posted in this blocg,though many are hidding themselves in Christ,alot of them are expressing their tribal sentiments towards Raila and glorifying Kibaki because he hails from their tribe.Brothers and sisters,we are supposed to preach peace and be neutral.None of us can arm-twist God into doing that which is outside his will.Kibaki sinned openly as people were watching and the GOd i serve hates sin and cannot be associated with sin.What he needs to do is to ask God for forgiveness and surrender to the will of God so that God may take over this process to the next level.
    As brothers and sisters in the Lord,I beseech you by the mercies of God not to try and call each other names and justify any sin or try to glorify self or an individual because God does not share his glory with anyman and those who are trying to glorify individuals or exalting their egoes and justifying the same will be ashamed when God reallighn things in the way he wants them to be.Let us ask God for forgiveness for having killed one another and hand over this process to him to take us to another level.Blood has been shed and we need to ask God for forgiveness and forgive each other.
    To those who are receiving dreams or having received dreams concerning their prefferd candidate,even satan does give dreams and especially depending on what was in your mind before you went to bed.Do not try to speak for God not unless The Holy Spirit of God came and spoke to you with clarity and confirmed it the same way Brother Theodore said.
    Let us rise above our ethnic alignments and return to God with all or hearts and keep feelings and emotions out of this.We are all flesh and blood and cannot preavail above God’s will in any way.Those whoare attacking the Prophet shouls stop because The Lord who called him may answer back by fire and it will be unfortunate to whoever he lands himself on.

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  • 45. Lulizi  |  January 4, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    One, I think you missed the point from the concerned believer: please understand that your medium of communication can hinder or distort the message; so the way you type with a million mistakes makes us struggle to get what you are saying! I believe you care that we understand clearly what you are communicating. In fact, God never screams at us. He speaks in a small still voice.

    Two, my conviction is that the Kenyan Church has backslidden and God is using this as an opportunity to draw us, all of us to himself. The way Church buildings are being burnt now explains the lack of respect for the Church that has failed the Nation. Before election I never got a single sms asking for prayer; we were too clever because we knew what to do! but since the 29th of December 2007, I have been swamped with messages of prayer. I have had to clear my mailbox often.

    We have cheated and, now we have been cheated. Let the one who has not sinned throw the first stone! We have cheated in exams, cheated on our wives and husbands, cheated the government on taxes, cheated in offices, courts, etc. The best thing is this: let us do the repenting and God will do the healing of the land.

    Three, as a great leader of the Nation of Kenya and Kenya’s No.1 person today, I would urge Mr. Kibaki and PNU to lead by example: Do the reconciling in action, (word and deed), rather than threatening Kenyans with the full force of the law. Match your words of reconciliation with action. Lead and let Raila and ODM follow. Asking others to do what you cannot do is hypocrytical.

    Four, my conviction is that Kenyans had dethroned Jesus in their hearts and one group had installed there Kibaki while the other group had installed there Raila. Each one of them believed that it is their man who will save them. They were so wrong! It is only God who will save us from poverty, sickness, etc. Remember when Joseph and Mary forgot Jesus in the temple and went a whole day’s journey? So it was with Kenyans: we went to the polls and we forgot to go with Jesus. We need to go back to the place where we left Jesus. Let us pray and repent sincerely.

    Lastly, I believe God wanted to do a great thing in this country but there was a test, which we failed miserably! God is testing our hearts. Do we truly LOVE our neighbours? God has exposed us internationally of our hypocrisy.

    The best thing is this: let us do the repenting and God will do the healing of the land.

    I love the Kikuyus and I love the Luos and I truly love everyone as God’s people. God bless Kenya!

    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 46. Esther  |  January 4, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Proverbs 6

    16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
    18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
    20 ¶ My son, keep thy father’s commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
    21 Bind them continually upon thine heart, and tie them about thy neck.
    22 When thou goest, it shall lead thee; when thou sleepest, it shall keep thee; and when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee.
    23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
    24 To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
    25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
    26 For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.
    27 Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?
    28 Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?

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  • 47. murwa  |  January 4, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Brethren,cant we see there is judgement on our land Kenya?It is so evident.
    Is it time to get into meaningless arguments when the nation is burning?Judgement has been been prophesied on Kenya unless we repent and now here it is.The restoration and healing all starts with you and me as an individual.How?By dethroning the devil personified in kibaki and raila and enthroning Jesus Christ as our only Lord and Saviour.
    1 chronicles 7 : 14.May we all repent,ask for forgiveness,turn away from our sins/wickedness and turn all our passions in loving the Lord Jesus Christ for God to heal and restore our nation.As long as you can read my blog(that means you are still alive),its not too late.God can give us a second chance and i believe He will.
    My advice for any true prophet : God is watching over His word to perform it.Jer 1:12.He spoke it,He alone will do it! Please dont waste your time defending Gods word unless ofcourse if its your own word.
    My plea : Lets get onto our knees and cry out for mercy for this nation.Even in anger,God can and still does show and reveal mercy.
    Murwa

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  • 48. goodmorningjesus  |  January 4, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    What would Jesus do if He were to come here in Kenya in person at this point in time?

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  • 49. Journey Man  |  January 4, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Keep praying for Kenya…

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  • 50. Theodore  |  January 4, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
    Today while i soaked in the glory of the lord in the morning the lord told me through his glorious holy spirit to give this prophetic over site and directive in his holy name the name of Jesus.
    The lord is saying that Kibakis reign in power is short, he withers from within and his reign is short,he said the true bride the holy church of Christ has a solution, to speak life to speak righteousness and justice into this situation, if the living church of Christ will start to speak life into the atmosphere and into the lives of the affected there would be life again but this is only after genuine repentance by all,
    the church the true church should be focused on the great commission to preach the gospel now in words wonders and deeds, it is time for the church to preach in deeds, feed the hungry shelter those that do not have shelter,clothe the naked,and be peace makers
    There will be chaos in parliament and battles , but the lord is also warning the nation that there will be assassination a tempts on the lives of some prominent leaders, this will fuel the fire the church should start praying again ts it now say the lord,
    the lord also has shown me that something will happen to the former president moi, an ailment that will confine him to bed, his days are near.

    CONCLUDING REMARKS

    It is now fact that those that are questioning Railas salvation should know that he was led to salvation by bishop oyedepo and also some few well known bishops prayed for him and gave him the flag of Kenya, they all saw him as kenyas president for the next five years, the lords time of bringing that
    to pass will be perfect
    if kibaki is Gods choice and he won clearly why the open rigging and and deception we have seen on Tv. we all know the father of lies his name is the devil, he is the thief, thieves only beget thieves, you reproduce only who you are,ask yourself kibaki is a product of who?does Go APPROVE ALIE WHO IS THE FATHER OF LIARS? ANSWER YOURSELF,
    KENYA REPENT OR PERISH,

    THEODORE

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  • 51. Journey Man  |  January 4, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Amen!

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  • 52. slice  |  January 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Dear Brothers and Sisters in the faith,

    It is interesting to note that most of the contributors have not given people HOPE.

    and without HOPE… Well, whether we pray, repent or not, we perish. The sad fact is that most, if not all of us, have already taken political ‘sides’ and we will go to all lengths to justify this position by quoting all the relevant verses and prophecies.

    I am not speaking from a point of judgement on who is right or wrong, or which prophet is inspired or not. All I am asking is, as a church, we are the final beacon of HOPE to all humankind. That is why people take refuge in a church when there is unrest. Can any of us imagine being evicted from our homes only to flee to church and find damnation being preached? even the little hope you had would be crushed! Christ’s ministry was simple, to bring healing, to stop the suffering, to establish His kingdom of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.

    So am asking us to give people hope and I will start by saying that KENYA WILL NOT BE DESTROYED! In Gen 18:23-33 we see the Abraham’s repeated pleas to the Lord to spare the city for the sake of the RIGHTEOUS! The Lord replies that He will spare it, not because of any party, race or tribe, but because of the righteous people living in it! I encourage all of us to trust that the Lord is still in control regardless of who is in authority. as prov 21.1 says; “The heart of a king is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water, He turns it wherever He will”!

    Let us not lose the 3 critical pillars of the church of Christ, these are FAITH, HOPE and LOVE, the greatest being LOVE.

    GOD BLESS KENYA

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  • 53. Don  |  January 5, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Theodore, you have stated many times that the church in Kenya needs to repent but why is it that every religious leader who appears on TV is not making this call. I’m appalled that the church is not seeing repentance as a way of returning our country back to God and bringing healing to our land!!!! Who will do it if not those called by the name of the Lord. There are prayers set for tommorrow between 6 and 7 pm in all TV and Radio stations. Will they be prayers of a Nation turning back to God through repentance or will they be the usual inter-faith prayers that mixes Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Bahai’s etc. Do such prayers reach the throne of God?? Beloved brothers and sisters it is time we sincerely humbled ourselves as a nation and repented of our sins. We are faced with a calamity and this calls for repentance. Nothing else will wash. Be blessed.

    Don

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  • 54. prophert magak  |  January 5, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    praise the lord?everybody, everything work together for good ,in isaiah 55God,s word alway come to pass ,john10;10 the theif come to kill steal and destroy ,in God heart a theif is a theif if God elected kibaki has the leader of these nation then kibaki would let God to chose him has leader but not rigg the election,whatever a man sow so shall he reap in kenya people do not acknowledge God ,when pastor love the wordly passion than God,s glory please read hosea 6;4-6,8;3-4,9;1-2 please read and see why God should not bring judgement to these nation the key is repent

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  • 55. prophert magak  |  January 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    don you need to repent and get born again you do not need church leader to tell you to repent ,do you read your bible repent, repent repent

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  • 56. Don  |  January 5, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Prophet Magak, please do not be so judgemental. I am born again and by saying that our religious leaders aren’t calling people to repent I did not mean that individually we need to be told to repent but rather as a nation there comes a time when the whole nation needs to come before the Lord and corporately repent of its sins. But someone has to do the calling to repentance for the whole nation to respond!!!! The bible is replete with such instances. Please do not be judgemental.

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  • 57. sadam  |  January 5, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    slice you are wrong if God does not judge kibakli he will have to apologise to sodom and gomora, we have athief in the state house there will be aspirit of thieving around the country, i already feel the opression iwonder what they want to stal this time telekom or safaricom, they are planing to steal theives thieves ohh! my God thieves.
    but also you are right slice faith hope and love we hope for judgement on mr kibaki who is growing his butts on state house chair, and he is being led by lucy the jezebel, kenya must repent! repent! repent! repent! repent! repent! or burn in hell, the scorching heat of hell, let those who are decieved and have eyes that do not see repent of their delusion, slice you have awarped opinion on mercy, mercy is not atissue to wipe your but, we are pooping on Jesus and what do we expect anice loving Jesus, repent there is mercy and judgement, you abuse mercy you get judged, lets repent lets repent kenya tommorow is sunday go to church and repent, go and hug aluo or akikuyu brother and pray for them and repent togather .
    sadam aka brimstone and fire

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  • 58. John Das  |  January 5, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    Let’s all continue to pray, and make sure that each one of us keeps our heart pure, and remain in love towards each other as brethren. Apostle Das, our family and our ministry are praying around the world for Kenya, and especially for the sincere brethren who live there. Aposlte Das is releasing a full statement on Sunday. Please view it, and tell your friends and other brethren to please visit the site by then. http://www.DasMinistries.com. Let us all play our part to bring peace. And let us all do as God leads us according to His word, as we remain submitted to the Godly Leaders who have been placed in our lives. For surely, all leaders are not Godly, unfortunately even some of the leaders in the church. May God be with you, and praise God for some of the changes we are seeing already.

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  • 59. Lulizi  |  January 5, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Slice, be the one to give people the hope! If no one is doing it, please do it! Why are you expecting other people to do it? If you had the hope, you would have done it but from the look of things, you are equally bankrupt!

    This is the worst state of affairs we Christians find ourselves in. In good times we did not learn how to hear the voice of God. Now we wish we can hear and give people hope! But those of us who can hear God’s heart, he is saying, “Go down on your knees and humble yourself and repent of your backslidding”.

    There shall be no other gospel preached at this time except repentance! No prosperity gospel – if you thought that is what we preachers will tell you. Pole sana! God’s ultimate purpose is for you to go to heaven by living in righteousness and not just to live comfortably here on earth. Please see the bigger picture.

    God is love and the way to reach God and obtian his mercy is through repentance: to say sorry to God and consequently adjust your lifestyle and live for Him. All the other things like hope, peace, joy and blessings will then follow. But we must repent first….. unfortunately, Slice! Do not chase blessings before repenting: they will never come!

    Slice, I think you must admit that the things that went through the air during the campaign period were vile and an abomination to the Lord. People were so bold and arrogant. We must repent of what we said about other people… the lies… the propaganda….. etc. If you were on e-mail I am sure your PC still has those messages! If you feasted on them and were enjoying one politicain destroy another with lies….. please repent and repent for the country…..

    We will not preach what you want to hear! If you have ever had an experience with Jehovah, your words will be few…. and you will tremble…. Hear ye this, a population that is 80% Christian:

    Isa 30:9 For it is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of Jehovah;
    Isa 30:10 that say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits,
    Isa 30:11 get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from being before us.
    Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and rely thereon;
    Isa 30:13 therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly in an instant.
    Isa 30:14 And he shall break it as a potter’s vessel is broken, breaking it in pieces without sparing; so that there shall not be found among the pieces thereof a sherd wherewith to take fire from the hearth, or to dip up water out of the cistern.
    Isa 30:15 For thus said the Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, In returning (repentance) and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength. And ye shall have none of it:
    Isa 30:16 but ye said, No, for we will flee upon horses; therefore shall ye flee: and, We will ride upon the swift; therefore shall they that pursue you be swift.
    Isa 30:17 One thousand shall flee at the threat of one; at the threat of five shall ye flee: till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on a hill.
    Isa 30:18 And therefore will Jehovah wait, that he may be gracious unto you; and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for Jehovah is a God of justice; blessed are all they that wait for him.
    Isa 30:19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem; thou shalt weep no more; he will surely be gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear, he will answer thee.
    Isa 30:20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be hidden anymore, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers;
    Isa 30:21 and thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it; when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 60. sadam  |  January 5, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    AMEN TO THAT WORD LULIZI

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  • 61. Journey Man  |  January 6, 2008 at 2:01 am

    Let’s take some time to thank God for the recent peace….. God is good.

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  • 62. SADAM  |  January 6, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    it was ashame for to see the catholic and Anglican church and other clergys leaders of other faiths to pray with those who worship idols, how do we allow our God YAHWEH to be shared on the same platform with idols, what was done today wasn’t right those Hindus prayed in the idol gods they worship, they made those prayers defective,how can we mix with Muslims and Hindus and pray to different gods,those idol gods of theirs, were worshiped by all who prayed their stupid prayers,we must worship only yeshua amashiah, no other name but the name of Jesus Christ, and we had some leaders there who call themselves tolerant to devils of buthism and pagan moon gods that the Islam worship, the church in Kenya is asleep and dead, Muslims are not our friends and they don’t worship the same GOD,of Abraham they worship moon gods how did we allow them to pray together with us today on tv, these compromised preachers, they must repent of what they did today those prayers God did not listen to.

    but we thank the lord for the peace being restored but kibaki must be judged that thief must repent.

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  • 63. Jackie  |  January 7, 2008 at 8:20 am

    My opinion is simple. We al know Raila won and Kibaki rigged. nut now we have a leader who is known internationally to be a dishonest man. i always say nothing suprises God and well if He decided that kenya will be known as a nation of dishonest people, liars and thieves, then so be it. maybe we will all learn from it and NEVER repeat the mistake again.
    However in the bible all who were dishonest “in the name of God” finally paid for their actions. so yes Gods justice will catch up with mr Kibaki and his team. plus the word of God says all that is done in secret will be shouted from the rooftops. Innocent lives have been lost and like Abels blood, their blood is crying out to God and He will answer. Also the religous leaders that kept quiet, theirs is coming too. when so many people have died is when they want to pray. i wanted them to come out and strongly condemn the acts of the evil one (rigging). The securalr organisations like the EU were the ones that condemned the actions. (talk about the stones rising up to sing!) where are the John the Baptists and Pauls of our time who believe that nothing is greater than the word of God? Tangu lini kabila au mamlaka ikawa na nguvu kuliko injili?? Men of God we were your sheep but its the sheep that led the shepherds for since Dec 28th. Your judgement is there too.

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  • 64. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 9:14 am

    The bible tells us we have all sinned and fallen short of the glorly of God.. We live by the grace of God.. not by our good deeds..therfore , all should repent becouse as much as kibaki might have rigged, Raila and ODM rigged too in Nyanza.or can anyone here honestly say they did not rig….they have not denied or have they?… they told PNU to go to court to contest the results of areas they think was rigged..PNU told them to go to court too but they refused..well and the real truth is that.. Raila rigged long time ago when he started the ant- kikuyu campaign..or do you tHink God aprroved this?.therefore both are thieves and this is case of the pot calling the kettle black.

    As much as we would like to demonise one and protly one as they victim.. God says My ways are not your ways and my thought and different from your…He further says in romans that let everyone else be lier and God be true.. God know the truth and nothing but the truth. …HIS WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS.

    The only honest person here is Kalonzo.

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  • 65. Don  |  January 7, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Esther it is obvious you are a PNU supporter, which is OK, but I think you are pushing things too far. Please do not try to use scripture to justify a sinful act. Leviticus 19:11 says “Do not steal, do not lie, do not decieve one another”. That is the word of the Lord and He never contradicts Himself.
    As for the prayers yesterday, I mentioned here a couple of days ago that it was likely we were going to have prayers being offered by Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc. Such prayers it is obvious are never heard in Heaven. I was even more appalled when prayers were offered for the dead!!!!

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  • 66. Nandi raider  |  January 7, 2008 at 11:28 am

    esther,u are an idiot

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  • 67. Janet  |  January 7, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Esther, it is such an attitude of “they also stole so my stealing is okay” that will get this country nowhere. Why should we condone sin.
    Mr Kivuitu, like Judas has sold this great country for 30pieces of silver. May he perish together with his money if he doesn´t repent.

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  • 68. goodmorningjesus  |  January 7, 2008 at 11:40 am

    The following two questions are running through my mind this morning.Anybody out there with answeers?back them up by scriptures please.
    1.If Jesus were in state house as the president of Kenya under the current circumstances today,what would He do?
    2.If Jesus were the ODM leader under the current circumstances,what would He do?
    I believe genuine answeers to these questions are solutions to the current crisis facing Kenya today.

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  • 69. Janet  |  January 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    By the way, the solution to this problem is very simple. It is just that the people involved are deceitful and have something to hide that is why they don´t want the truth. The issue is, who won the elections. The losers should simply leave the stage and let the winner come in.
    My prayer is that if this will happen then the Lord shouldgive wisdom to this leader to reconcile the various communities and adress past injustices so that healing can occur. So far, we see a lot of people want peace without truth. I think if we bandage a wound without cleaning it, it will not heal. This is a golden opportunity for Kenya to deal with all its closet issues so that we can move forward as a nation. Nothing short of true repentance will do. Unfortunately, the church leaders think that some few prayers for peace will do. God looks at our hearts, not the lip service we give Him.
    Somebody put it very nicely, we have been cheating and so we have been cheated. Can we confess of our unfaithfulness as individuals and as a nation. As someone who lived abroad for sometime, I must say, I was ashamed many times to identify as Kenyan. One time someone asked me whether I was Kikuyu in Botswana. I felt so ashamed that even foreigners know that we identify with our tribes. Kenyans were also involved in a lot of shady deals in that country. Brethren, we have been exposed for who we are. It is time for honesty and repentance.

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  • 70. Nandi raider  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Esther u r a tool

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  • 71. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    I happy to be akenyan… The truth hurts… the truth is THEY ALL STOLE… period.

    Yesterday.. we were praying for peace not the stollen votes. .. Jesus said.. let the person with no sins be first to cast the stone.

    My point is… is KIBAKI THE ONLY PERSON WHO STOLE??????

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  • 72. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    To nandi raider… may God bless you.. is still love you with the love of christ .. you God creation.

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  • 73. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    When God created man.. in Genesis … you looked and so he was beautiful..

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  • 74. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    When God created man.. in Genesis … HE looked and saw he was beautiful

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  • 75. Nandi raider  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    Esther, u sound like my grannie

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  • 76. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Nandi Raider…May the peace of God which exceed all understanding be with you…If i ever need blood donation.. i will contact you becouse i see you as my brother not a nandi raider… okey…have ablseed day.

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  • 77. wycliffe  |  January 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    The spirit of the LORD is saying that we must all go back to the cross because that is where Jesus died for our sins.Those who are trying to justify what PNU and ODM did and exalting Kalonzo are missing the bigger picture.We must individualy ask God to forgive us and allow the blood of Jesus to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.Esther and Nandi Raider,what you too are doing is not only UnGodly but carnal.Let us forget about taking sides that brought us to where we are and get to Jesus.
    The church was left without a shepherd when all their heads took sides in political parties and started exalting men instead of the chief shepherd Jesus Christ.Right now they ought to have been the voice of reason but because they defiled themselves with the enemies delicacies,they are not able even to face Kibaki and tell him that he is wrong and unless he still refuses to admit that as a father in a house he fell,there is no solution to this political problem.Forming a goverment of national unity cannot work before admitting the wrong and asking Jesus to take charge of this countries leadership and to give it to his own elect he desires.Let us be Christians with action but not in the flesh.Let us all appreciate our tribes as a blessing from God and begin to operate above them and even thank God for putting us all here to co-exist as his on children,and remember God will never share his Glory with anyman whether i support him or you support him but his will and purposes will prevail above ours.

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  • 78. Don  |  January 7, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Amen Wycliffe!!

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  • 79. Kenya  |  January 7, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    What a confused people you all are? God loves everyone including Raila and Kibaki. You cannot judge. I cant belive you prophess to be christains and some are even prophets. Please shut up and lets pary for peace.Even in wrtah , God remembers Mercy. You have no right to condem anyone.

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  • 80. MAGAK  |  January 7, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Proverbs 15:1 a gentle answer turns away wrath, but harsh word stirs up anger that is for both of you Esther` and nandi raider, lets all remember that righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is the disgrace to any people, proverbs 14:34, Esther sin has been committed here now we have the disgrace because of that, the international observers said it was only central province that they were not allowed to see the results they did not say any other province Esther ask your self why they saw the tallying of results from the odm side but they did not see it from pnu central everything that is right is done in the light those that hide their deeds they do so because their deeds are evil.
    proverbs 15:3 the eyes of the lord are everywhere keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
    those who forsake the law praise the wicked but those who keep the law resist them, Esther you cannot praise the wicked that is a sign of those who do not obey the law, those that obey the law must resist the likes of kibaki who has proven to be a wicked man
    for kibaki this scripture is very true proverbs 28;13, he who conceals his sins does not prosper but whoever confesses and renounces them finds mercy– let kibaki renounce his sin then he will find mercy if he does not the judgment of the lord is coming upon him, proverbs 28:12–says clearly that when the righteous win there is great celebration but when the wicked rise to power then people go into hiding , sounds like what we saw when kibaki came in to power, so who is the wicked it is obvious, that is what the bible says, do not say i said it let God speak for himself through the scriptures verses 23 he who rebukes a man will in the end gain more favor than he who has a flattering tongue— don’t flatter pnu Esther they must be rebuked openly. proverbs 29; the man who remains stiff necked after many rebukes like kibaki will soon be destroyed without remedy.
    verses 2, when the righteous thrive the people rejoice,when the wicked rule the people groan,— Kenya is groaning Esther the wicked are ruling, verses 4 Esther the bible says by justice a king gives a country stability, but one who is greedy for bribes tears it down,— why is Kenya torn down now except that we have some greedy morons in power and they want to hold on to it because they receive a lot of bribes.
    verses 12, if a ruler listens to lies, all his officials become wicked,— here in Kenya the ruler is already a liar, his officials are already wicked, and we cannot trust in their leadership.

    i want to encourage the odm team to follow the word of the lord here proverbs 29:26– many seek and audience with a ruler but it is from the lord that man gets justice, lets continue to pray that the lord will bring justice he is the only one who can avenge the bible says vengeance belongs to the lord.

    ecc chapter 3:16 and i saw something under the sun in the place of judgment–wickednesses was there, in the place of justice– wickedness was there , this government is full of wickedness even in the judicial courts thats why odm rejects and God recorded it too.
    God will bring each deed into judgment, including every hidden thing.
    IF JESUS WAS IN STATE HOUSE HE COULD HAVE MOVED OUT BECAUSE HE IS RIGHTEOUS AND HE UPHOLDS JUSTICE, AND THERE IS NO SIN OR LIE IN HIM. JOB 8:3 DOES GOD PERVERT JUSTICE, PSALMS89 :14 JUSTICE ARE THE FOUNDATION OF YOUR THRONE,MATHEW 12:18 HE WILL PROCLAIM JUSTICE TO THE NATIONS –I BELIEVE THIS INCLUDES KENYA.

    IF JESUS WAS ON THE ODM SIDE, ISIAH 53:7 HE WAS OPPRESSED AND AFFLICTED YET HE DID NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH,VENGEANCE BELONGS TO THE LORD HE WILL AVENGE FOR YOU
    , ALSO ISAIH53:11 AFTER SUFFERING YOU WILL SEE THE LIGHT ODM.
    lets wait for the justice of the lord it is coming quickly i feel it in a distance.
    magak

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  • 81. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    To Magak,

    Well, i am not always right.. i stand to be collected where i am wrong.. but my freind do not say that the wicked are ruling becouse i would like to know who is more wicked?.. Kibaki or Raila.. God Know the truth…

    God bless you.

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  • 82. Esther  |  January 7, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    God was grieved and His own heart “filled with pain” at man’s wickedness. God saw that “every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5-6
    God was concerned with man’s thoughts. He brought to pass the drowning of everyone except eight people, the family of Noah (2 Peter 2:5). In this great act God clearly distinguished between the evil thoughts of everyone on earth and the righteous life of Noah. He abhorred the one and accepted the other.
    Scripture demonstrates that God was concerned from early in mankind’s history with man’s heart, that God cared deeply about the spirit, or motivation, behind man’s actions.
    This is demonstrated by such statements as “Do not hate your brother in your heart” (Leviticus 19:17, NIV) and “You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength” (Deuteronomy 6:5).
    After recounting His Ten Commandments in Deuteronomy 5:6-21, God exclaimed, “Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!” (verse 29).
    King David knew well that God “searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts” (1 Chronicles 28:9, NIV).
    David also grew to understand that no one could escape from the invisible presence of God (Psalm 139). In his repentance after his adultery with Bathsheba, David expressed the understanding that God was ultimately more concerned with “a broken spirit, a broken and a contrite heart” than with any physical penance he could undertake (Psalm 51:17).
    Man’s innermost attitude and disposition have always been of concern to God, in both Old and New Testament.
    God has long concerned Himself with the morality of people. This was clearly demonstrated during Abraham’s time when judgment was exacted on five cities. Two of the cities, Sodom and Gomorrah, have become classic examples of the sinfulness of humans, typifying all that is perverse and decadent. God showed He would not forever overlook depraved attitudes and conduct. He concluded that the “sin [was] so grievous” in these cities that a prediction of even 10 righteous people living there was wildly optimistic and unrealistic (Genesis 18:20-32).
    Once again God made a distinction concerning the morality and ethics of human conduct. In Sodom lived only one righteous man, Lot (2 Peter 2:6-7). God considered the evil of these cities sufficient to warrant their annihilation as a judgment on their sinful, corrupted residents.
    The Old Testament: the foundation of morality
    God is also concerned with man’s attitude toward his brother. murder is so abhorrent to God. The New Testament scriptures do not detail why premeditated murder is wrong. They do not explain what was behind God’s declaration in Exodus 20:13 that murder is a sin.
    The Old Testament, however, holds the key. It’s not just that God detests the violent act. The real reason is revealed early in man’s history as a moral statement given to Noah.
    Noah had personally witnessed a global watery judgment for man’s violent ways and cruel thoughts. “And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man.” God then explained what no text in the New Testament does similarly: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man” (Genesis 9:5, 6, NIV).
    Man should not murder because human beings bear their Creator’s image. Each person bears a potential far greater than this physical life. To murder another is to attempt to negate God’s infinitely higher purpose for mankind.
    The sacredness of human life
    We find two of God’s servants, David and Jeremiah, both stating that God knew them before they were formed in the womb (Psalm 139:13; Jeremiah 1:5).
    Some of the greatest texts on ethics-values, thoughts, motives and intent of the heart-are detailed in the writings we know as the Old Testament. They are a vital foundation in establishing how God responds to the thoughts and intent of the human heart.
    Actions reflect the heart
    As Jesus explained to the Pharisees of His day, just as a tree is known by its fruit, so is a man known by his ways. As are his thoughts, so will be his actions, “for out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.” Jesus explained that “men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned” (Matthew 12:33-37, NIV).
    (Matthew 15:18-19). His actions are but a reflection of his thoughts and intents. It shouldn’t surprise us that the Creator of man went straight to the heart and core of the matter, addressing mankind’s

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  • 83. sadam  |  January 8, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    esther repent you kibkis mole get off your tribal inclination, raila was led to Christ by bishop oyedepo,he has confessed Christ as lord on TV the devil kibakis has not done so, quit your long justification notes repent accept tha truth you have to be real kibaki is a thief Go forgives but man must do restitution let kibaki restitute power he stole that will be real justice, lets find out also who killed ouko, and tom mboya that will be real justice too,
    these murderers who have killed luo bright minds must be locked up and new ones like kibaki must be stopped

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  • 84. Paul  |  January 8, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Christians, lets continue praying.I pray in Jesus name that this country will never be ruled by people who consult mediums and witches.That will never happen in Jesus name.If you are a witch, just know that God has decreed that you will not rule the righteous.

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  • 85. Mimi  |  January 8, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    Its a sad day in Kenya when there is no difference between the believers and the unbelievers. I participated in a blog that was discussing a certain article by a guy called “Joseph Obiero”. I believe that some of you had come across such an article. I read as people contributed their opinions and I saw what I now see in this very blog. Hatred, inter-tribal animosity. The saddest thing about what I am reading today is that this is coming from christians. Hey I know that christians are just sinners saved by grace and therefore they are subject to fall into the same sin that affects the unbelievers but brothers and sisters how can we so openly display our dirty linen in public.

    Some of you have already mentioned, we are not supposed to take sides. We are supposed to be peacemakers and not warmongers. If a prophesy of doom is given to our country we should not eagerly await its fulfilment just to prove that God exists but we should seek his mercy on our land. We should as well note that God is a consuming fire but He is also slow to anger. He promises in his world that if his people who are called by his name shall humble themselves and pray, turn from their wicked ways then he will heal their land. have we done this?

    To the prophets whether true or false you have to let us pray for the discernment to test and prove whose word is true. For those of you rejecting Kibaki as not the chosen leader (I am not saying he is) just because he stole the election(which both sides are ALLEGED to have done) I will have you know that if this was God’s criteria of his chosen leader then half the leaders in the Bible would never been leaders because most of them did not lead the most exemplary of lives. Not only that, Raila would probably not also meet his criteria. MAYBE Bishop Pius Muiru would have been the closest.

    I don’t know who consulted witchdoctors or not but I know that like many other christians I prayed for God’s perfect will and not his permissive will. I keep praying for this and that he may have mercy on us especially more after reading the comments on this blog. Lets be first Christians then Kenyans and finally any of the tribes we are and not the other way round.

    The problem is not the march stick but the petrol in the cup for if the cup contained water then the flame would be put off instead of the explosion. This describes the situation on the 31st when Kibaki was declared the winner. This was only a march stick which landed on the petrol in cup which represents the volatile situation called tribalism which is embedded deep inside most of us Kenyans. This in addition to other social economic factors are what brought about the explosion of violence we saw in the country. The root of the problem is not the flawed electral process but this tribalism because whoever would have been declared the winner on that day believe you me there would still be violence. Don’t blame Raila or Kibaki just read some of the comments by christians in this blog and you will understand what I am saying.

    None of us is perfect since we daily have to strive for perfection. Even the early church suffered from divisions due to the arguments on Circumcised and uncircumcised believers. This does not justify our folly but shows what we can achieve when we move from being led by the Spirit to being led by the flesh. Lets pray for God to forgive us and change our tribalistic hearts to hearts that will love each other. for this is the greatest virtue and love would have put out the flames ignited by the results.

    Regardless of which prophesy is true, lets pray for and preach love, peace, repentance and healing of our nation for blessed are the peace makers they shall be called the children of God.

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  • 86. sadam  |  January 8, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Mimi that is your own opinion you sound like a pnu mole, repent of your bias there is injustice in the land first they killed mboya then they killed ouko and all this no one spoke about then they shot luos in kisumu during Kenyatta days and many people died and they did nothing now they steal the votes and some people who have no manners can come here and defend them we can never trust in anyone but JESUS,after this only those from your tribe may be Mimi is from those rich families that have benefited from the blood money from kibaki and thats why you defend him to get more bloody money, today they have chosen kalonzo the wizard as the vice president, this guy is hypocrite, secondly he is a snake and apnu errand boy he is unchristian but a snake,we will never get away from our tribes we were born from tribes we grew up in tribes when we retire we go back to our tribes, Mimi you are unrealistic kibaki must repent and return the stolen jobs the likes of him have made Kikuyu’s to be known as thieves

    thieves thieves thieves may they burn in hell those thieves

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  • 87. Lulizi  |  January 8, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Four things:

    One, if you had children like me how would you tell them that stealing does not pay? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a a generational God. He expects us to pass some things and values down the generational tree. What you have learnt you must pass it to the other generations. So what generation are we raising today? Do we tell them do what I say but do not do what you see me do? Very hypocritical! In the last few days, I have had a very difficult time trying to explain to my children (10 years and below) the reason why people are killing each other! Simply put, they count not count votes!

    So what virtues are we going to leave for our children? What really is going to happen in future if all of us refused to obey the law? Should all of us do as we wish? At this rate who will be President in 2012? If someone toppled the present government, will you approve such? God forbid! Let there be set standards of right and wrong to be observed by all.

    Two, the Bible in the book of Revelation talks of people who were courageous and pursued the truth with courage and loved not their lives as to shrink from death. There are those people who will rise to be killed for the sake of justice for they loved God and truth more than their own lives and for this purpose they were born. The Bible also says cowards cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These people have a great inheritance in heaven. Do not despise them. Remember the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Is it possible that Kalonzo was pushing Kivuitu to name Kibaki as the President so that he can be named as the Vice President? The blessing of the Lord maketh rich and addeth no sorrow with it. If a blessing comes with sorrow, it is not from God. Period!

    Three, I can sense some form of arrogance and false security in some of our bloggers. The fact that you are on the net means you are among the top 3% of all the Kenyans. You can write anything you want in the comfort of your home thinking that you are better than those in the streets. But remember the day you meet a hooligan around the corner, Kibaki, Raila or Kalonzo will not make a difference. When you will be raped or sodomised, you hands chopped or you are killed altogether, you will want justice! Let us not condone anyone who does things contrary to the will and written word of God. God says do not steal or cheat. So can he send you to do the same? These people are serving themselves and not sent of God.

    Four, Jesus being God He did not think eqaulity with God as something to be grabbed by force. Paul says one who desires to be a Bishop desires a good thing but he should be called and GIVEN the leadership position. True God-given leadership is not grabbed and must be given and taken with humility and not with the arrongance and speed which Kibaki has done it. His actions are not godly.

    Lastly, when you read the old testament, you will see a certain pattern. When Israel sinned against God, he sent an army to discipline them and after they had repented and returned to God, God sent another nation to punish the army that had discplined the Israelites. So be very careful that God may be using certain elements to discipline others. Their turn is coming and that is why David warned his enemies not to rejoice when he was down because God was going to restore him but punish those He used to discipline David.

    Conclusion: Pray for your persecutors and do not rejoice when your side is winning because you are next on God’s hit list if you remain unrepentant. Please people humble yourselves!

    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 88. sadam  |  January 8, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    AMEN TO THAT

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  • 89. Nandi raider  |  January 9, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Kibaki will come to eldy kesho to cause chaos and to shoot hundreds

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  • 90. Patricia Burns  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Who are the Two Witnesses?

    Let’s make a comparison between the two witnesses with the saints of the most High –

    The Two Witnesses

    1. The two witnesses will receive God given power.
    2. They will have this power for 3 ½ years (Re.11:3).
    3. After they have finished their testimony, after the 3 ½ years of power, the beast will make war against them, and he will overcome them, and he will kill them (Re.11:7).

    The saints of the most High

    1. War will be made with the saints of the most High (Dan.7:21, Dan.7:25).
    2. The mighty and holy people will be destroyed (Dan.8:24).
    3. Those who do not worship the image of the beast will be killed (Re.13:15).
    4. It will take 3 ½ years to accomplish to scatter the power of the holy people (Dan.12:7).

    The end time prophetic message that John is to prophesy again is a bitter/sweet message, which, in God’s good time, will be prophesied before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings (Re.10:9-11).

    The bitter part of this end time prophecy is that the saints of the most High (Dan.7:22), the church of God (1 Cor.10:32, Gal.1:13), Jesus Christ’s living body, called to be saints (1 Cor.1:2, Ps.37:28), will face the tribulation under the beasts/kings of Re.13:1 and Re.13:11. They are those blessed (Re.14:12-13) who come to the 1335 days (Dan.12:11-12) prior to the Seventh TRUMPET ascension (1 Thess.4:16-17, 1 Cor.15:52, Re.10:7, Dan.12:6-7) .

    The Jew in Christ through faith and the Gentile in Christ through faith (Rom.5:1), having become one body (Eph.2:16), the living body of Jesus Christ (1 Cor.12:17), have BECOME, individually as well as collectively, the church of God (1 Cor.10:32).

    These two unique groups in Christ (the church of God, 1 Cor.10:32), in one body (Eph.3:6, Col.1:24), who have been chosen to come to the 1335 days (Dan.12:12, Re.14:12-13) prior to the Seventh Trumpet ascension (1 Thess.4:16-17), are the two witnesses.

    The two witnesses will be given God-given power (Re.11:3) and will prophesy John’s bitter/sweet message (Re.10:9-11), the scripture of truth (Dan.10:21), for 1260 days (3 1/2 years). When they have finished their testimony, AFTER the 1260 days, the beast/king that ascends out of the bottomless pit, will make WAR against them, he will overcome them, and he will kill them (Re.11:7).

    The war (Re.11:7, Dan.7:21, 25) will conclude with the last two of the church of God (1 Cor.10:32), the two PROPHETS, being slain at the beginning of the last week prior to the ascension (Re.11:8-12, 1 Thess.4:16-17).

    Pat (ndbpsa ©) Bible Prophecy on the Web

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  • 91. wycliffe  |  January 9, 2008 at 7:09 am

    Indeed the heart of a man is deceitful and desperately wicked above all things.What most of us are expressing in this blog is the tribal sentiments and the conditions of their heart that they are realing hurting from within.The nation is indeed bleeding and the so called ‘our father in state house cares less’.What is the answer,THE CROSS.Let me put it this way:Kibaki has no answer to you and even those who think he can perform miracles will be dissapointed.When sin has been committed lets face it.Let us not hide and behave like politicians.At this our,it can be seen like Kibaki is having his way but lets wait and see what Jehovah has for this nation for his will will prevail above that of anybody.

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  • 92. Esther  |  January 9, 2008 at 8:56 am

    Amen to wycliffe.. ” lets wait and see what Jehovah Has for this nation for His will will prevail above that of anybody”.

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  • 93. wycliffe  |  January 9, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Esther,i believe you are a bible student.Tell me this:What happened to the kings in the bible who acted in pride like Nebuchadenezzar,Belshazar,Ahab,Saul and many more?My sister,my tribe is that one one Jesus and not the trumpeted ones that are being exalted on this blog.God hates sin and is always merciful and can wait longer than we thingk because his ways are not our ways neither his thoughts our thoughts.God will does prevail even if we has men have built for ourselves castles and think that we are very safe inside them.God is no respector of persons.If there is a problem in the house,it is always the father that takes the lead that is why many have been expressing themselves here tha kibaki should take the lead and own up and the rest will follow.Yeaterday,Raila came out and counted a number of constituencies that added him votes he did not genuinely get.He has owned up and accepted the wrong he did.Why is the old man not accepting the wrong on is side.No one hates him and we has believers are not supposed to express our tribal sentiments while arguing a case that needs sobriety.
    God leads in guiding the hearts of men and sometime he can lead them to do what is not popular with men.that does not make him aliar.My sister,rise up to the occasion and see the other side of the coin and ask God for the way forward and has it is,only THE CROSS has the answer not your friend kibaki or Raila.You have not seen anything yet because the wrath of God on this country has not been appeased if the head of state still behaves like pharoah of the bible.

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  • 94. Hellen  |  January 9, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Its so sad to hear the Prophet of God Theodore saying that God will revenge on the Kikuyus, are you a tribalist? you may deny but from your comments we have seen it. If its true that God has chosen Raila then let his will prevail if not then we will know. we should be praying for mercy and not blaming Kibaki or Raila, God can not be mocked. I have stayed in Rift valley for long(Eldoret) and Ruto and Raila are ncouraging kales and Luos to kill Kikuyus, what have they done? nobody chose their tribe but God chose it for us, Its so sad when we are led by our feelings and emotions and not the spirit of God.
    Why are you defending Raila so much when the guy went to church and lied about the MOU with muslims and later confessed that he did sign an Mou with muslims, whom does he think he is fooling if not himself. The bible’s mercies are new every morning and we should pray for mercies in the nation of kenya not judgement. Why judge prophet Manton? he prophecied before the elections about what is happening now, Look at Abraham he lied to save his family and God still used him am not justifying lies but God uses his own ways to raise his servant.
    Kibaki is a humble man who has few words but his actions of perfomance speak louder than words, Raila has alot of arrogance, he attacked Kiplagat and said he speaks nothing when this guy was talking about peace to prevail in the nation of Kenya, Dont you think this is what God says are “Dogs” that he will not leave the nation to Dogs according to Thomas manton.
    Seek Gods face again and know that God is not an author of confusion but God of order he doesnt lie and if its true what you are saying we shall,but the prophecy has to be tested.
    Right now there are so many false prophets and we need to be careful
    I will not hate any other tribe just because am a Luhya, they dont deserve anything wrong. By the way Kikuyus are very hardworking and why should we be jealous of them.
    In kisumu, Luos burnt their own city thinking they are destroying Kikuyus NO, they have destroyed themselves and burning buildings and companies expecting to go back to the same place asking for Jobs when they burnt them.
    we should always think before doing anything that will make us regret in the future.
    I am really praying for Kisumu that they should stop worshipping RAILA and put their trust and eyes to Jehovah God, if Raila dies today what would happen to them? will they kill themselves?
    May God have mercy on us and may he forgive us for our sins.
    May God bless you Man of God but please sit down and think about all these, lets not walk by sight but by faith.
    Lets not hope that Kibaki, Raila and Ruto will help us but look unto God.
    God will humble the proud and will lift up the humble.
    Be blessed

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  • 95. Jackie  |  January 9, 2008 at 10:06 am

    AMEN AMEN WYCLIFFE. Esther two wrongs never ever make a right. One question for you esther to think about. How many Kings did God allow to rule but He never approved of? What was their end?

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  • 96. wycliffe  |  January 9, 2008 at 10:36 am

    My sister Hellen,let go of all bitterness in your heart.You cannot pray with bitterness in your heart and expect God to listen to you.This is not about kikuyus,raila, kibaki this is about God.God is judging this country whether you want to hear the prophet talk about it or not.Do you think we are happy with the killings that have happened in the past under this regime or the past regimes?We all watched with disbelief has yougnman were being killed in large numbers in disguise of mungiki while they were just being assasinated.Whether they were kikuyus or not,they are kenyans.Be sensitive in the spirit and remove flesh out of the way.God is God and his ways are higher than man’s ways.Thomas Manton is human and is bound to make mistakes.We know of many men of god who were in kibakis payroll during campaign and even left the flock without a shepherd.Am not impliying that he was paid to say what he did and if at all that is the case,it wont be long for you will see God revealing himself.
    Lets stop dwelling on kikuyus and face the problem we are having and solve it.Thos brothers and sisters,children that were killed did nothing wrong to deserve that because they are kenyans and believe you me,God knows what you don’t knowand if there are people responsible for that,he will purnish them and they will not go scottfree.Let the truth be told God will strike and he will prevail above all our feelings.Rise above your feelings and see God for who he is.Stop judging Raila hashly because if God wants him to sit there,kibaki may just be warming the sit for him for God’s word will come to pass and neither your hunger or my frustration cannot frustrate the will of God.He may delay but he will fulfill it in his due time,so tread carefully.

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  • 97. jepkosgei  |  January 9, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I have read all your comments and I have been thinking as I read and i realise it is true the church is totally divided and divided we fall. God is indeed seated on the throne, He is ever living He told moses He is the I am, He is ever true the Lord God almighty, He is the rightous charge. So let us allow him to charge. A true prophet is the one whose prophesis come to pass, according to Manton Kibaki was to win and he never worn he is a thieve, some people want to manipulate God on this issue but we shall wait and see the salvation of God. The light shines over the darknes and the darknes shall not overcome it. On the issue of who and who should not be the president, I want to leave it to God, I want to let God be God, thesame God who gave wisdom solomon to decide who among the two women who were fighting for the child was the right mother of the child will reach Kenya and He will shurely give us the solution in Jesus name. May God bless

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  • 98. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 10:54 am

    I repeat.

    The problem is not the march stick but the petrol in the cup for if the cup contained water then the flame would be put off instead of the explosion. This describes the situation on the 31st when Kibaki was declared the winner. This was only a march stick which landed on the petrol in cup which represents the volatile situation called tribalism which is embedded deep inside most of us Kenyans. This in addition to other social economic factors are what brought about the explosion of violence we saw in the country. The root of the problem is not the flawed electral process but this tribalism because whoever would have been declared the winner on that day believe you me there would still be violence. Don’t blame Raila or Kibaki just read some of the comments by christians in this blog and you will understand what I am saying.

    None of us is perfect since we daily have to strive for perfection. Even the early church suffered from divisions due to the arguments on Circumcised and uncircumcised believers. This does not justify our folly but shows what we can achieve when we move from being led by the Spirit to being led by the flesh. Lets pray for God to forgive us and change our tribalistic hearts to hearts that will love each other. for this is the greatest virtue and love would have put out the flames ignited by the results.

    Regardless of which prophesy is true, lets pray for and preach love, peace, repentance and healing of our nation for blessed are the peace makers they shall be called the children of God.

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  • 99. Elizabeth  |  January 9, 2008 at 11:41 am

    I choose to believe that even now God is in control. Nothing and I say nothing is a surprise to Him.

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  • 100. Don  |  January 9, 2008 at 11:46 am

    The Lord says “Test the spirits” If what is prophesied is in line with the word of God then we will know it is of the Lord.

    Below are excerpts from Thomas Manton’s prophecy to Kenya. I believe you have all read it. I found these parts disturbing.

    Prosperity:
    The ignorance in your Church-leadership concerning My laws of prosperity have become a nuisance to Me! My people in Kenya yet remain poor because of this, when I want them rich! I will deal with people who are ready to move on with Me in this. But I will push aside those who oppose Me in teaching My people how to live and walk in My blessings, abundance and prosperity. I will raise up a new generation that understands Me, and the ways I work as the multi-faceted God that I am!

    Humility in the Midst of Loftiness
    The higher I go, the more I want to be humble, because this is Almighty God speaking here through me. I am just a pure ‘Voice’ for Him. I see things in the supernatural and not in the natural. I have been given the gift of committing hundreds of Scriptures to memory. The Lord Himself has had me prophesy His Words, and teach His Principles to multiplied millions of people on all six continents of the earth by Television, Radio, Internet and ‘in-person’ in ‘Live’ Conferences and Revivals. It is completely by God’s design that I even got saved, let alone anointed! I grew up amongst the CEO’s, Billionaires, Bank Owners, Business and Real Estate Tycoons; as well as Mayors, Governors, and Presidents. *President Bill Clinton attributed his own Presidency to my father’s personal influence. President Bill Clinton said the following as he addressed thousands in honour of my father: “It was because of Thomas J. Manton that I was elected President of the United States. Without his endorsement and help, it would not have happened!” Billionaire business mogul and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg was also quoted in the New York Times and other major-media headlines saying: “Tom Manton has given me wisdom that has helped me succeed in politics. I don’t know what I would have done in certain situations without his great insight.” But after all this and much more, God’s Prophetic Calling, Mantle and Anointing have been the most amazing things I have ever seen or experienced in my entire life! They are also the most precious, treasured and valued to me. Nothing at all can ever match or compare with God’s own glorious power and ability moving through a human life!

    It is true God wants His children to prosper but is there any where in scripture He expressly promises us that He will make us rich???!!! I may have missed it but I would like someone to lead me to that part of scripture.

    The second part of the excerpt gives a picture of someone who is exalting himself and I find that to be very unscriptural.

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  • 101. Nandi raider  |  January 9, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Stop playing dump the manton prophesy came out on 31st december he”s a known satanist and has kikuyu concubines

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  • 102. Nandi raider  |  January 9, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Stop playing dump the manton prophesy came out on 31st december he”s a known satanist and has kikuyu concubines

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  • 103. Hope for kenya 2008  |  January 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    greetings in Jesus name. My friend forwarded this website to me before elections.I would like to make afew remarks.
    Please let us all desist from using abusive words and disrespect to men of God. Ephe 4:31-32 let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamour and evil speaking be put away with all malice. 32 and ye be kind to one another tender hearted forgiving one another even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
    friends and brethren we all know what happened and the whole world knows it but let us exercise temperance God loves all of us and He has a plan for Kenya.

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  • 104. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    I agree with Jepkosgei. Most of us have judged who is the right president and who is not. We should let God be God. Some are defending their prophesies and others their opinions. Why not pray and fast for God’s perfect will to be done for this great Nation. How dare you call someone a thief? Who gave you the power to judge? I read on one of the comments that if God allows Kibaki to rule then he will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. Why are will limiting God to a mere man and his justice to the justice of men. His ways are higher than ours so whatever he decides to do he will do. Whether it pleases us or not. He chose Israel/Jacob over Esau though it may look unjust that was his will. Jacob stole Esau’s blessings and conned him out of his birthright but God still chose Jacob over Esau. Please note that I am not advocating for poll rigging and I believe that God’s justice will prevail. My point is that we can’t simply say that Thomas Manton’s prophesy are unfounded merely because it is alleged that Kibaki stole the votes. I am also not saying that his prophesy is true because of this or inspite of this. All I am saying is that Pray for God to give us true discernment and note that whichever way the situation goes we will still have to continue with our lives and live together as kenyans and not as anyone tribe.

    No tribe deserves or reserves the right to be in power. For your information, whether Kibaki, Raila or Ruto is in power very few Kikuyus, Luos and Kalenjins will benefit so lets not defend our tribal leaders for they are the only ones who benefit while we suffer the consequence of our arguments and fighting.

    Let me correct a statement I made earlier. The problem is NOT ONLY the match stick but the petrol in the cup. We need to correct what triggered the violence as well as what caused the explosion. I believe that in this blog we cannot change much on what triggered i.e. the flawed election results since this is up to the protagonists Kibaki and Raila and the ECK and/or Courts. But what we can start correcting is the flammable state of the country created by hidden tribal tension in most of the citizenry.

    I am neither a PNU nor ODM mole, I am a Kenyan who feels that both sides have let us down big tyme. Christians, the issue right now should not be who stole or who didn’t, who won or who didn’t but the evil presence of tribalism in our country. We should fast an pray that this evil is removed once and for all from Kenya. It is so sad that we can see this in our comments. Just by reading the comments one can know that this is a Kikuyu and this is a Luo or Kalenjin. Bytheway I don’t believe that Kalenjins are Killing Kikuyus and Kisiis in the rift valley and Luo’s and Kikuyu’s are killing each other in Kisumu and Kibera. What I know is that SOME Kalenjins are Killing SOME Kikuyus and Kisiis in Eldy and SOME Luos and SOME Kikuyus are killing each other in Kibera and Kisumu.

    The Keyword is SOME not all. Most Kikuyus in Rift Valley were saved by their Kalenjin friends. So unless we know that it is actually a few people who are displacing and killing people in Kenya we might find ourselves in a war, May God forbid. We can pray for this few Kenyans to change their attitude.

    May God have mercy on our land.
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    God Bless you all. God Bless Kenya

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  • 105. FRED  |  January 9, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    kenyans let su pray and not find falts in who is right and who is wrong. what happened did not take God by surprise He knew and still knows. there were times that God allowed war for his glory but He hates killings ,stealing and destruction of property. LET US PRAY THAT HIS PERFECT WILL BE DONE IN KENYA . IF THERE IS SIN LETS REPENT HE WILL HAVE MERCY ON US

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  • 106. bro wanyama  |  January 9, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    OKULU, NJOYA, NDIGI, GITARI.
    These comments are interesting to read.
    Thanks God for aluoch. am still waiting to see how long kibaki will linger in power. Are these the end of the dynasty of a certain kingdom here in kenya.

    tell me some body , do we still have people like Bishop Alexander Muge, or Okullu in kenya. Is bishop Gitari , Ndingi and rev NJOYA still alive. I ve not heard any servant of God telling KIBAKI , MAN you have sinnned ,REPENT by returning the presedency to the owner. If it were more days am sure some of our good M O G would have spoken.

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  • 107. wycliffe  |  January 9, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Jesus is Lord.Am still perplexed at the rate of tribal emotions being expressed here.By reading an exceprt from thomas manton prophecy,the truth can be told.He said Kibaki will win but all of us knows that he didnt and going by the prosperity message he said and self exaltation he is doing here,i do not know for sure whether he still hears from the living God.It is time we face the truth and ashame the devil.

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  • 108. Don  |  January 9, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Nandi Radier please do not play the know it all. Thomas Manton’s prophecy was there on his website well before 31st Dec – it’s only that it was removed a few days to elections and posted back on 31st. Instead of soberly discussing issues you just like pouring vitriol on what people say. What kind of person are you???
    People God does not condone sin. Whichever way you want to bring out your arguement for Kibaki let us agree that sin is sin, it does not matter how it is coloured or presented. However the time is not for us to throw brickbats at each other but to repent.
    The election was stolen, that’s for sure, but the Lord will deal with those who have subverted the people’s will. We can’t tell Him how and when to deal with them, but He will surely do it. HE IS GOD.
    One thing that amazes me is how we Kenyans like glossing over issues. Like now we know what the problem is (i.e. stealing of an election) but some comments made on this blog now want to push this aside and reckon that the real issue is establishing peace in Kenya. It is great for the country to be peaceful and that is what we all desire but we must also address the problems that precipitated the crisis the we are now facing and these are lies, dishohesty and deceit. These have been the hallmarks of Kibaki’s administration and if not dealt with now these demons wil continue plaguing our country for zillions of years. These ills subvert justice and where there is no justice there can’t be peace. So let’s be real and tackle these ills through prayer and repentance.

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  • 109. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Amen to that Don. Whatever issues we may put as priority we should tackle them through Spiritual means. Making idle talk does not help any of us. God is in control. His Will will be done and is already being done no matter what any of us think otherwise why call him God. If we claim to know his will why should we worry and argue? What value does it add to any of us? Christians you are much more bigger than this.

    Why worry when you can pray?

    So God is good and all the time he is good.

    Lord we cry for peace, reconciliation and justice in our Land. Be exalted above all this. Amen

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  • 110. rafael  |  January 9, 2008 at 3:19 pm

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  • 111. Cool Bull  |  January 9, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Theodore: Did Raila consult witches? If you dont know and you are a true prophet find out from God. Am waiting to hear from you.

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  • 112. rafael  |  January 9, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    No matter what you may believe, Thomas Manton’s prophesies have been accurate twice this far. The first one in 2002 and the second this year.

    No matter how look at it Kibaki won by hook or crook. Tell me who is sitted in state house today and who has appointed a new cabinet? Kibaki and not raila so who is being called president. Whether Raila accepts him as president or not or sit on the government side in parliament or not. Who is commanding the Military and the police.

    Did you notice when Raila said told people to stop killing destroying properties and killing people they actually stop or atleast the killings drastically reduced. So who is behind the violence if not ODM and Raila? Who is responsible for the deaths and the bloodshed if not them. Kibaki did what any sane incumbent president in africa would do. This does not mean he is not the right leader only that he is not the perfect leader. so guys even if Raila finally gets into office which I highly doubt, Kibaki was the 4th president and Raila will be the 5th even Kibaki rules for a week, a month or a year. He was sworn in and declared the winner by all the required entities from the ECK, Attorney General, Military Commanders etc. This was then Gazetted. For your information this was done in 1992 and 1997. so we should NOTallow it to continue happening but it has happened. We deal with it. Theodore lets wait an see.

    Mimi don’t worry there will be peace.

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  • 113. Bernard Kima  |  January 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    I Truely want to thank for Apsotle Harry Das and his mandate and passion for our beloved nation-Kenya.Had we all heeded to his call to repentance,purity of life,sincerity and hinesty among the ministers of the gospel,we woudnt have been where we are now.Its not all gone-there is hope and my convicyion is that the ministers of the gospel MUST FIRSTLY TURN TO GOD BEFORE THE MEMBERS BECAUSE AS THE SHEEP SO IS THE SHEPHERED.May God save our nation Kenya.Revival will indeed come and it will come through the REMNANT WHO WILL WALK IN TRUTHS OF THE WORD OF GOD,PURITY OF LIFE,SINCERE AND HONEST WITH ONE ANOTHER.When this is done,then together we shall bind the evil spirit od tribal prujudice and Kenya shall be set free.
    The Lord keep His servants.

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  • 114. MAGAK  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Theodore is my spiritual father on his behalf i reply ,He obeyed the lord Jesus WHO GAVE HIM THE WORD IF YOU READ HIS PROPHECY HE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING LIKE RAILA SEEING WITCHES BUT HE SAW KALONZO SEEING SOME DO NOT ASK THE PROPHET TO SAY THINGS THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN

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  • 115. MAGAK  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    THEODORE IS MY SPIRITUAL FATHER, AND I WILL REPLY FOR HIM, HE WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING THE LORD HAS NOT SHOWN HIM, IF YOU READ HIS PROPHECY HE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING LIKE RAILA SEEING WITCHES,S BUT HE SAW KALONZO SEEING SOME,AND WE HAVE SEEN THE KALONZO THE BORN AGAIN JOINING THE WICKED ONES, HIS SALVATION IS IN QUESTION NOW JUST LIKE THE PROPHET FORETOLD, DO NOT ASK THE PROPHET TO SAY THINGS THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN SHOWN

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  • 116. SADAM  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    KALONZO HAS PROVEN TO BE THE SNAKE THAT HE IS, FIRST HE WAS JUDAS ALL ALONG PRETENDING TO ATTACK KIBAKI BUT NOW BECOMING HIS FRIEND, AND BECOMING THE VICE PRESIDENT, THAT MAN IS BRINGING SHAME TO KAMBAS HOW CAN PEOPLE BE BOUGHT FOR CHEAP, HE SOLD EVEN HIS SALVATION TO JOIN WITH A THIEF, NOW HE IS THE FRIEND OF A THIEF, THE BWANA A SIFIWE IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A GIMICK NOWADAYS BEING SAID BY EVEN DOGS LIKE HIM, KALONZO IS A STUPID MAN AND SOME BRAVE KAMBAS SHOULD COME OUT AND CALL HIM STUPID, WE WANTED TO SEE THE NEGOTIATION GOING ON BUT NOW THE VERY STUPID PEOPLE KIBAKI AND KALONZO NOW WILL MAKE THAT TALK IMPOSSIBLE THESE GUYS ARE NOT LIVING ON EARTH THEY ARE FROM MARS THEY ARE MARTIANS THE STUPID GUYS ARE REALLY STUPID

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  • 117. wycliffe  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Thanx brother magak.A prophet is without honour in his own town.Those who are attacking borther Theodore for what God told him to do will have to answer to God who called him.Miriam and her team raised a finger at Moses.Who answered them,was it God or Moses?God knows who his own are and he will protect them from some freemasons who are expressing their evil intents in this blog while hiding behind christianity.Kibaki did not win election it was open to everyone.Ask yourself one question.If he genuinely won,why was he hurriedly sworn in and in state house floating so many procedures and did not want the people who elected him to rejoice and witness his swearing in?In 2002,he won with a landslide and all procedures were followed and you could see how he was sworn in openly with even the whole world rejoicing and happy with him.My brothers,God is watching us whether we are going to validate sin and call it sweet or own up and ask the old man to repent.I hear people trumpeting their condemnation for Raila and non wants to face the fact that the oldman openly stole votes has we were all watching.Why are we going round the bend and not facing the root cause of the problem we are facing?Kibaki is like a father of a nation and if a father does not lead by example,even his children will one day have a faceoff with him because he is planting a seed.Remember brothers and sisters,as long as the world still exist,seed time and harvest time shall never sease.Kibaki planted a seed and the conditions are all favourable for the growth to succeed.As long as Jesus still lives,he shall surely reap if he does not repent of his sins.those who do not want to hear this in this blog should wait for God because he will not delay to punish sin.He did it to Nebuchadenezzar,Belteshazzar,Ahab,Saul and he is the same yesterday,today and forevermore.If he did it then,he will repeat it again because he hates sin.

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  • 118. rafael  |  January 9, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Sadam your name and comments sound very Christian and they DO allow you to call people like Kalonzo others. That is very christian of you don’t you think?

    I saw someone complain about guys writing in CAPITAL LETTERS. Guys we are not half blind. It is actually very annoying. But coz its SADAM and MAGAK i guess they will be encouraged to continue.

    Nandi raider. R you trying to incite us against Nandi’s or what. Nandis r great dudes with a few crazy elements. They r not all raiders but if you r one of the raiders I think it shows that you r really advancing. Credit to Kibaki Nandi Raiders r now in Cyberspace. Thats great!!! Don’t you think???

    Nandi raider I believe you should be supporting Kibaki since by your own admission you are a raider therefore a thief just like Kibbs.

    You know what guys there were three thiefs who wanted to be president in 2007. The election was not about chosing the right leader it was all about voting against the other thiefs and that is what happened. If you think Kibaki is the only true leader or Raila is the only true leader then I think you are more naive than a day old baby. So one of the thieves won let us continue with our lives. Stop crying over spilled milk. Kazi Iendele ilitupate Maisha bora. Signing Off am going back to work. Tuonane.

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  • 119. Esther  |  January 9, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Amen to Mimi

    Brethren, what are we fighting over? Our augments will not change what God has decided… why don’t we wait and see the will of God prevailing… The bible says… SEEK MY FACE…NOT SEEK MY HAND (for judgment)

    It is as if each kind of person looks at God through differently tinted glasses. A person wearing blue glasses will see everything blue…… “To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.” (Titus 1:15)

    A person who is himself vicious and vengeful will tend to see others, including God, as vicious and vengeful. “The children of your people say, `The way of the Lord is not fair.’ But it is their way that is not fair!” (Ezekiel 33:17; 18:25)

    What ever God has decided… we have no control over it…some say its Raila and I say its Kibaki…my support or your support will not change God decision…I would only say. You can only Hold God by his word. And what does His word say… you will know then by their fruits. Just as a tree is known by its fruit, so is a man known by his ways. As are his thoughts, so will be his actions, “for out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.” (Matthew 12:33-35, NIV). His actions are but a reflection of his thoughts and intents
    (Matthew 15:19)…

    Let remember this is nation with a purpose before God…

    By the way… I have not seen any ODM leader or their supporter condemn the burning of churches… Matthew 15:19). His actions are but a reflection of his thoughts and intents..

    “To the merciful I will show myself merciful.” (2 Samuel 22:26) “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” (Matthew 5:8) “Whoever is wise will observe these things, and they will understand the loving-kindness of the Lord.” (Psalm 107:8)…

    Remember God is not mocked

    God say “My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are my ways your ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8)

    “The Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance.” (1 Samuel 16:7When God tolerate evil it is because He sees that good can come from it. As Joseph said after his brothers betrayed him, “Your thought evil against me, but God meant it for good.” (Genesis 50:20).

    Finally, ‘He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. (Rev 22:11)

    For,” behold I come quickly, and my reward with me, to give every man according as his deeds. Rev 22:12

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  • 120. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Thank you Esther. Rafael you and Nandi Raider need help. Thats all I can say.

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  • 121. SADAM  |  January 9, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    RAFAEL YOU ARE PNU RAT AND YOU ARE BLIND SO I HAVE TO USE CAPS,THOSE CHURCHES THAT WERE BURNT ARE CORUPT CHURCHES JUDGEMENT TO THEM TOO, THESE ARE THE APOSTATE CHURCHES MAY THEY BURN MORE OF THEM IF THEYCONTINUE DOING WE WILL SOON GET RID OF THAT PANDA MBEGU GOSPEL,THAT IS THE FIRE OF THE LORD IN THE HAND OF THE EATHENS, GOD IS NOT MOCKED YOU ARE RIGHT BUT AMAN WILL REAP WHAT HE SOWS,KIBAKI IS ATHIEF ACORDING TO JOHN 10:10
    HAKUNA MAISHA BORA HAPA KENYA REFAEL KUNA MAISHA PORA YAANI MAISHA YA KU-PORA, YOU KNOW KIBAKI? SEE THE POSTERS IDONT KNOW THE MAN HE IS ATHIEF,

    LET THEM BURN ALL SAINTS CATHEDRAL, LET THEM BURN ARTHUR KITONGAS CHURCH LET THEM BURN ALL THOSE COMPROMISED CHURCHES WHO EAT FROM THE GOVERMENT,
    MORE FIRE ON THESE APOSTATE CHURCHES LET IT BURN AND LET ANEW CHURCH RISE FROM THE ASHES

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  • 122. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    I seem to have forgotten SADAM. God forgive us all. We need his mercy upon us.

    Sadam I am sorry that you feel a church needs to be burnt to the ground with or without people. This is definately not the Way of Christ. This is not the way of the church apostate or whatever.

    I thank God He is not anything like any of the Christians in this Blog. God is love and anyone one that loveth not is not of God.

    God’s Will will Prevail above all else. That is what counts.

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  • 123. Mimi  |  January 9, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    God’s will i.e. whether Raila or Kibaki. His will will prevail

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  • 124. rafael  |  January 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    SADAM THANK FOR PROVING MY POINT.

    I am sure Sadam is not your real name but the sad thing is the moment you took up the name u got something from it. Maybe some demon I don’t know but you got the urge to see people and churches burn.

    Shame on you Sadam. Be careful not to suffer the fate of your hero Sadam. You know what I think. SADAM is the Short form of SAD I AM.

    I seriously have to work. All this DOMO DOMO is tiring me out.

    Yes I am PNU DAMU. just like you are ODM Damu am sure.

    Disclaimer: My views are not entirely the views of the whole PNU fraternity. They are my own. So if you have a probelm with me don’t kill innocent civillians. Deal with me.

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  • 125. SADAM  |  January 9, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    MIMI GOD IS NOT ONLY LOVE HE IS A COMSUMING FIRE, THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER GONE THROUGH ANY WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE, YOU HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS,
    RAFAEL YOU SOUND LIKE P.N.U RAT,P.N.U OR PUNU OR PARTY OF NATIONAL UKABILA MUST FACE JUDGEMENT THE BLOOD OF ALL THOSE WHO DIED IS IN THE HANDS OF PNU AND ANYONE WHO SUPORTS THEM WILL PARTAKE IN THE SAME.
    THIEVES THIEVES NOTHING ELSE BUT THIEVES

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  • 126. wycliffe  |  January 10, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Rafael.Mimi,Sadam,Esther,the answer to all that we are going through as a country is not in PNU,ODM,Kibaki,Raila but at the cross where we first so the light.how long does it take you to realise this instead of exchanging words here and trying to justify them through carnal means by twisting God’s words to prove your thoughts,how long willit take you to know that God is not part of all our confusions that are here in kenya?Let us go back to the cross and some of you by the expressions of your feelings have not actuallt died to the works of the flesh and that’s why you outburst at every slight challenge put forward upon you and say some nusty things about others.you need to know that we all belong to Jesus and non of us is perfect.Let us not waste anymore time CROSS is the answer.

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  • 127. Esther  |  January 10, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Amen to wycliffe.

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  • 128. SADAM  |  January 10, 2008 at 11:15 am

    WYCLIFFE YOU ARE WISE

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  • 129. Mimi  |  January 10, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Thank you Wycliffe for finally recognizing what we’ve been saying all along.

    God’s Will will Prevail above all else. That is what counts.

    Whatever issues we may have we should tackle them through Spiritual means. Making idle talk does not help any of us. God is in control. His Will will be done and is already being done no matter what any of us think otherwise why call him God.

    Amen Wycliffe.

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  • 130. wycliffe  |  January 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    The Grace of God has been revealed to all men and it teaches us to say no to all unrighteousness.The wrath of a man does not work out the righteousness of God and all our righteousness is a filthy rag before God.Exalt no man not even yourself.Our leaders were raised by God to lead us.If any has gone a stray,God is swift to correct them and even punish if he/she cannot repent.God is the one who raises kings and brings them down at will depending on what he wants done at a particular time.But one thing that always make God to Come swiftly and punish is PRIDE.When a leader becomes proud and refuses to listen and even ignores the promting of The Holy Spirit,God never hesitate to punish such a one.Therefore,whatever opinions we are expressing here,watch out not to provoke God to anger by any careless statement or opinion bordering on pride which has actually brought sin into this nation.We were stiff necked people and despite the promting of the Spirit of God and even sending men of God to warn us,we Puffed ourselves in pride and even ignored the messages with some calling the men of God by their tribes trushing God’s warning because it did not come from the lilkely quarter.My brothers and sisters,God is no respector of persons.If he used a donkey to speak to balam,how much more a human being he sent his son to die for?Let’s appreciates the tribes God has given us and stop identifying ourselves with tribes or our leaders with tribes.Let your judgement be based on sound doctrines and not carnal mindedness for this will save us from quarrels.We’ve benn gossiping and slandering our leaders here and non has dared even ask or even think whether this is right or wrong.Let us all go before God and repent of these evil and ask for forgiveness and direction as his sheep called by his name and forget the rest.Have you ever prayed and fasted for something you wanted very musch to take place and the opposite happens?That tells you that only God knows what is good for you and as per the case of this country God knows what is good for us.Whether we pray for who to stay in power or who not to go there,this is all God’s bussiness and whoever he has determined to be whether you reject him because he does not come from your tribe or he is not your favourite,whether you pray with a siver tongue,God’s will will prevail above yours.So get ready for his will because our political situation has not yet come to an end and God will push through everything so that he may see that justice and his will prevails.
    God bless
    Wycliffe

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  • 131. Mimi  |  January 10, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    If that is God’s will then it will prevail.

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  • 132. Esther  |  January 10, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Proverbs 6

    16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
    18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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  • 133. Esther  |  January 10, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    and another Big AMEN to wycliffe..

    No one know the mind of God and we should patiently wait and pray that “may thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven”.

    Have ablessed day.

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  • 134. kinyeketile  |  January 10, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Some of you who told you we are writing a book? Did you do summary in school? Then if you didn’t go to the nearest day school education is free . you don’t need 1000 words to say what you are saying? please let’s keep writings limited to 50 words or 5 sentences.

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  • 135. wycliffe  |  January 10, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    kinyeketile,stop being abusive it is not Christlike.There is nothing you read which others didn’t do in school,go back to the cross.

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  • 136. Lulizi  |  January 10, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Are you people really spending time in prayer? Yes or No?! Please be honest. If you know you are not praying please stop lecturing us. We need action; not empty words.

    Please spend this time talking to God rather exchanging insults on the net. We will also be judged for every careless word we have uttered.

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  • 137. SADAM  |  January 10, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    A MEN TO THAT LULIZI LET US PRAY FOR JUSTICE

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  • 138. Charles  |  January 10, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Dont forget Balaam’s error. Like in that story, the donkey(country) is being beaten to move forward irregardless…Will the angel of the Lord appear to the rider(s)?

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  • 139. Nandi raider  |  January 11, 2008 at 3:44 am

    Hoooo i cant sleep am seeing kikuyu ghosts

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  • 140. wycliffe  |  January 11, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Daniel 4
    Nebuchadnezzar’s Second Dream
    1 Nebuchadnezzar the king,

    To all peoples, nations, and languages that dwell in all the earth:

    Peace be multiplied to you.

    2 I thought it good to declare the signs and wonders that the Most High God has worked for me.
    3 How great are His signs,
    And how mighty His wonders!
    His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
    And His dominion is from generation to generation.

    4 I, Nebuchadnezzar, was at rest in my house, and flourishing in my palace. 5 I saw a dream which made me afraid, and the thoughts on my bed and the visions of my head troubled me. 6 Therefore I issued a decree to bring in all the wise men of Babylon before me, that they might make known to me the interpretation of the dream. 7 Then the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers came in, and I told them the dream; but they did not make known to me its interpretation. 8 But at last Daniel came before me (his name is Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god; in him is the Spirit of the Holy God), and I told the dream before him, saying: 9 “Belteshazzar, chief of the magicians, because I know that the Spirit of the Holy God is in you, and no secret troubles you, explain to me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and its interpretation.

    10 “These were the visions of my head while on my bed:

    I was looking, and behold,
    A tree in the midst of the earth,
    And its height was great.
    11 The tree grew and became strong;
    Its height reached to the heavens,
    And it could be seen to the ends of all the earth.
    12 Its leaves were lovely,
    Its fruit abundant,
    And in it was food for all.
    The beasts of the field found shade under it,
    The birds of the heavens dwelt in its branches,
    And all flesh was fed from it.

    13 “I saw in the visions of my head while on my bed, and there was a watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven. 14 He cried aloud and said thus:

    ‘ Chop down the tree and cut off its branches,
    Strip off its leaves and scatter its fruit.
    Let the beasts get out from under it,
    And the birds from its branches.
    15 Nevertheless leave the stump and roots in the earth,
    Bound with a band of iron and bronze,
    In the tender grass of the field.
    Let it be wet with the dew of heaven,
    And let him graze with the beasts
    On the grass of the earth.
    16 Let his heart be changed from that of a man,
    Let him be given the heart of a beast,
    And let seven times[a] pass over him.
    17 ‘ This decision is by the decree of the watchers,
    And the sentence by the word of the holy ones,
    In order that the living may know
    That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men,
    Gives it to whomever He will,
    And sets over it the lowest of men.’

    18 “This dream I, King Nebuchadnezzar, have seen. Now you, Belteshazzar, declare its interpretation, since all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation; but you are able, for the Spirit of the Holy God is in you.”
    Daniel Explains the Second Dream

    19 Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonished for a time, and his thoughts troubled him. So the king spoke, and said, “Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its interpretation trouble you.”

    Belteshazzar answered and said, “My lord, may the dream concern those who hate you, and its interpretation concern your enemies!

    20 “The tree that you saw, which grew and became strong, whose height reached to the heavens and which could be seen by all the earth, 21 whose leaves were lovely and its fruit abundant, in which was food for all, under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and in whose branches the birds of the heaven had their home— 22 it is you, O king, who have grown and become strong; for your greatness has grown and reaches to the heavens, and your dominion to the end of the earth.

    23 “And inasmuch as the king saw a watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, ‘Chop down the tree and destroy it, but leave its stump and roots in the earth, bound with a band of iron and bronze in the tender grass of the field; let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let him graze with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him’; 24 this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king: 25 They shall drive you from men, your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make you eat grass like oxen. They shall wet you with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.

    26 “And inasmuch as they gave the command to leave the stump and roots of the tree, your kingdom shall be assured to you, after you come to know that Heaven rules. 27 Therefore, O king, let my advice be acceptable to you; break off your sins by being righteous, and your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor. Perhaps there may be a lengthening of your prosperity.”
    Nebuchadnezzar’s Humiliation

    28 All this came upon King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 At the end of the twelve months he was walking about the royal palace of Babylon. 30 The king spoke, saying, “Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for a royal dwelling by my mighty power and for the honor of my majesty?”

    31 While the word was still in the king’s mouth, a voice fell from heaven: “King Nebuchadnezzar, to you it is spoken: the kingdom has departed from you! 32 And they shall drive you from men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make you eat grass like oxen; and seven times shall pass over you, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He chooses.”

    33 That very hour the word was fulfilled concerning Nebuchadnezzar; he was driven from men and ate grass like oxen; his body was wet with the dew of heaven till his hair had grown like eagles’ feathers and his nails like birds’ claws.
    Nebuchadnezzar Praises God

    34 And at the end of the time[b] I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me; and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever:

    For His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
    And His kingdom is from generation to generation.
    35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing;
    He does according to His will in the army of heaven
    And among the inhabitants of the earth.
    No one can restrain His hand
    Or say to Him, “What have You done?”

    36 At the same time my reason returned to me, and for the glory of my kingdom, my honor and splendor returned to me. My counselors and nobles resorted to me, I was restored to my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added to me. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, all of whose works are truth, and His ways justice. And those who walk in pride He is able to put down.

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  • 141. st paul  |  January 11, 2008 at 9:29 am

    c’mon theodore.what you got to say about the latest developments?the anxiety is killing!but of course we are seriously praying as you said.kalonzo is def one judas.left the change group to join with the anti-change.i mean, what more evidence do we need.for a few pieces of silver and the blood of the innocent is crying out to the Lord.blood money i say it is. REPENT OR PERISH KALONZO.

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  • 142. wycliffe  |  January 11, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Jehovah is indeed at the door to bring justice to this country.The blood is crying to him day and night and only him is able to interpret what he is hearing from them.the nation is bleeding queitly and in pain terrible and many are asking the father how long daddy!Pray he is still hearing all our cry for help and he will do it.The kalonzo’s of this world who have read the bible all his life and has eyes to see but does not see will be judged togather with the wicked if he does not run to the hands of God almighty and seek his face more than being greedy for money and positions in this life.This world and all that you see will pass away but God’s word will never pass away for it is forever established in heaven.

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  • 143. Esther  |  January 11, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    To wycliffe ,

    I thought we prayed for the will of God to be Done… we run to the cross.. you say Kalonzo took blood money.. who say so..were you there when He took it..You said you have been praying and no answers, sure as you state the Lord can hear but His will will prevail above all.. Pray that the Will of God may be done on earth as it is in Heaven..

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  • 144. Lulizi  |  January 11, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Below is an extract I got from a Prayer ministry called the Wailing Women Kenya. More information down….

    Jer 9:17 Thus says Yahweh of Hosts, Consider you, and call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for the skillful women, that they may come:
    Jer 9:18 and let them make haste, and take up a wailing for us, that our eyes may run down with tears, and our eyelids gush out with waters.
    Jer 9:19 For a voice of wailing is heard out of Zion, How are we ruined! we are greatly confounded, because we have forsaken the land, because they have cast down our dwellings.
    Jer 9:20 Yet hear the word of Yahweh, you women, and let your ear receive the word of his mouth; and teach your daughters wailing, and everyone her neighbor lamentation.
    Jer 9:21 For death is come up into our windows, it is entered into our palaces; to cut off the children from outside, and the young men from the streets.
    Jer 9:22 Speak, Thus says Yahweh, The dead bodies of men shall fall as dung on the open field, and as the handful after the harvester; and none shall gather them.
    Jer 9:23 Thus says Yahweh, Don’t let the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, don’t let the rich man glory in his riches;
    Jer 9:24 but let him who glories glory in this, that he has understanding, and knows me, that I am Yahweh who exercises loving kindness, justice, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, says Yahweh.
    Jer 9:25 Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will punish all those who are circumcised in their uncircumcision:
    Jer 9:26 Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that have the corners of their hair cut off, who dwell in the wilderness; for all the nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in heart.

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  • 145. Lulizi  |  January 11, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    I got this on e-mail. Please sambazeni!

    —– Original Message —–

    From: kANAP

    To: KANAP Institute

    Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:35 AM

    Subject: Fw: STRATEGY TO PRAY FOR KENYA

    Dear Intercessor and Soldier of the Lord Jesus Christ,

    We have received wonderful response to the article I wrote titled “A CALL FOR INTERCESSION, UNITY AND PEACE IN KENYA!” We are now writing to urge intercessors to write back to share the strategies they are putting in place to pray for Kenya. We were greatly delighted to see big numbers of Intercessors turn up for prayers at the Open Baptist Church in Botswana. This is highly commendable and we urge them to continue to “pray without ceasing”! We have also attended two prayer gatherings here in Pretoria. One was hosted by the Kenyan High Commission in Pretoria and another was hosted by Christ Redeemer Church (Pretoria). Evangelical Association of Malawi has organized prayers today in Lilongwe (January 11, 2008). We have also heard of the worldwide prayers! Thank you!

    We’ve been in denial about the “virus” of tribalism in Kenya for too long! The “spiritual vaccine” has been in the hands of INTERCESSORS in Kenya. Unfortunately, the bride of Christ in Kenya has also been infected with this “virus” against the wish of the bridegroom, Jesus Christ. The whole of Kenya is currently infected with this “virus of tribalism” and we should all go through testing and examination! The “infection” and “symptoms” have been there but the “tribal disease” has now fully matured. The eruptions of chaos, killings, animosity, anger and unrest in Kenya is as a result of this “virus of tribalism”. We need quick medicine to address the symptoms and eruption but should not forget to address the root cause! We need to ensure that future generations are free from this ”evil disease.” It’s not just a political problem but primarily a spiritual problem!

    We need to address, uproot and destroy the root of the problem through prayer, fasting and other relevant spiritual strategies!

    Through the help of the Holy Spirit we have written a prayer strategy which can be used as a precursor of other strategies;

    1. WEEKLY PRAYERS: – Kenyan “Intercessors” should continue to gather at least once a week for the rest of the year to pray!

    2. 24 HOUR PRAYER WATCH: – Houses of Prayer in Nairobi and other locations should revive overnight prayers (keshas) and 24 hour “prayer watches” for the nation of Kenya!

    3. MASS PRAYER WALKS: – Christians in Nairobi and other cities should organize a mass prayer walk from City Hall through to Parliament Buildings and end up around the State House area! They will be praying, decreeing peace, blowing the shofarots (trumpets), singing songs of spiritual warfare, cleansing and repenting as they walk barefoot!

    4. SPIRITUAL MAPPING: – Intercessors should formulate a framework of intercession examining foundational issues as well as structural problems of the nation of Kenya.

    5. GATEKEEPERS: – Gatekeepers should be deployed in the major entry points of the city of Nairobi and all the other cities to “open and close spiritual gates”!

    6. KENYA WILL NOT BE THE HEADQUARTERS OF SATAN: – Centers of cultic worship and occult practices should be identified and destroyed in the spiritual realm in Jesus’ name!

    7. AUCTION OF OUR NATION: – Any covenants made to other gods to sell our nation should be identified and nullified.

    8. THE DEVIL IN THE CHURCH:-The entry points of the devil in the church should be identified, addressed and sealed through prayer.

    9. SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE FOR POLITICAL LEADERS: – Places where our political leaders get their spiritual guidance should be identified, scrutinized and addressed thoroughly and prayerfully. We need to see if we they are being led in the ways of Baal. (David surrounded himself with prophets, seers and priests.)

    10. FASTING: – Fasting coupled with prayer should be integral in all mandates!

    11. STRATEGIC PRAYING:-It’s time for the Church in Kenya to engage in intense strategic praying! Strategic praying comprises of warfare, declaration, agreement, intercession and kingdom prayers!

    12. KENYAN BORDERS: – God has burdened us to mobilize Intercessors worldwide to go to the Kenyan borders! Kenyan intercessors will be the legal entry of this other intercessors! Intercessors will be mandated to go to all major borders and gateways of Kenya to establish altars of prayer!

    In regard to point number 12, we make the following suggestions;

    a. PRAYER COVERING: – Intercessors ensure that the whole of Kenya has a prayer covering!

    b. SPIRITUAL GOVERNMENTAL PERFECTION: – We recommend 12 intercessors per gateway for all the border posts and gates.

    c. SPIRITUAL LEGAL ENTRY AND PROTOCOL: – Six Intercessors should be from Kenya and the other six from other countries.

    d. SPIRITUAL GATES: – These Intercessors will be deployed to the borders of Somali, Ethiopia, Sudan, Uganda, and Tanzania to institute altars of prayer, elect spiritual gates and address strongholds in those particular regions.

    e. WATER SPIRITS: – Intercessors will be deployed to Mombasa (Indian Ocean), Kisumu (Lake Victoria), Lokwakangole (Lake Turkana) to address “water spirits” and other strongholds in these gateways!

    f. HIGHEST POINTS: – Intercessors will go to highest the points in Kenya to reclaim these places back to God (e.g. Mount Kenya, Mount Elgon, Mount Kilimanjaro, Aberdares ranges, Taita Hills etc).

    g. POINT OF CONTACT: – Intercessors might not climb to the highest peak but they need to make contact with these high points.

    h. PRINCE OF THE AIR: – As Intercessors travel across the country, they will be responsible for addressing the prince of the air and territorial forces in the second heavens in Kenya!

    i. CITY HALL: – A delegation will have to go to City Hall to pray for the Mayor and his officials and to dedicate the city of Nairobi back to God. The keys and gates of the city will be dedicated back to God.

    j. EIGHT GATEWAYS: – Ninety Six (96) Intercessors in total will be needed for the eight (8) gateways!

    i. Tanzania – Namanga Border – 12 Intercessors

    ii. Somalia – Liboi Border – 12 Intercessors

    iii. Ethiopia – Moyale Border – 12 Intercessors

    iv. Sudan – Lokichokio Border – 12 Intercessors

    v. Uganda – Malaba Border – 12 Intercessors

    vi. Lake Victoria – Kisumu – 12 Intercessors

    vii. Lake Turkana – Lokwakangole – 12 Intercessors

    viii. Indian Ocean – Mombasa – 12 Intercessors

    k. DATES :-The target date should be around April-May 2008 ( Let’s pray about dates)

    l. OPPORTUNITY FOR CONGREGATIONS WORLDWIDE:-Intercessors will be raised from congregations across the world!

    m. FINANCES AND COMMITMENT: – Interested Intercessors will have to raise their own finances to go to Kenya and to the various border posts they will be deployed to!

    n. REPRESENTATIVE: – We need 48 Intercessors from Kenya as part of the 96 Intercessors. They will need to be representative of all tribes, races, status, denominations.

    o. MARKETING: – Please forward a list of Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers in Kenya and worldwide (and their contact details) who are willing to discuss the above mandate.

    p. DIASPORA: – Churches across Africa and worldwide will be requested to raise at least 48 Intercessors! Forward your name if you are interested!

    q. INVITATION: – We are open to invitations worldwide to share and mobilize intercessors, prayer backup and resources for this mandate before April-May.

    r. BIRTH IN PRAYER: – We are requesting you to birth the above proposal in prayer and get back to us. We need to know what God is showing you.

    Thank you once again for been an integral part of God’s redemptive plan for the nation of Kenya. We look forward to your feedback.

    Let’s not be spectators but active soldiers in the Lords army. The Commander-in-Chief of the Heavenly Hosts Jesus Christ is blowing the shofar (trumpet)!

    The shofar was blown to rally troops for war (Nehemiah 4:10, Judges 3:27), against strongholds (Joshua 6:20), to confuse the enemy (Judges 7:22), as a wake up call to return to the Lord (Joel 2:1) and by watchmen (Ezekiel 33:3-6)!

    Until then, it’s your fellow soldiers in God’s army blowing the shofarots!

    Symon and Carole Kariuki

    Kingdom Age Network of Apostles and Prophets
    P.O. Box 13754,
    Hatfield
    00128
    Pretoria
    South Africa
    Tele/Fax: +2712347886
    +27729774462
    kanap@telkomsa.net

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  • 146. Maan  |  January 11, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    I have read all the comments written above. But my heart deep within me cries loudly. Where are those sincere people of God? Where are those people who can sincerely stand up in the gap for his people? All our hearts are full of condemnation, and we have taken the role of God to judge. Who are we to judge others? God has created the world, and all that is in it. His pleasure is neither in destruction of the righteous men nor is it in the destruction of the wicked men. His pleasure is when he see one man among thousand wicked come to him with true repentance. His pleasure is when he see one righteous man humbled down, pleading sincerely for another chance for those already entangled in wickedness.

    Who is that righteous person who can humble himself irrespective of tribe, religion, status etc. and stand in the gap, and plead for our leaders despite their deeds to realize the power of the cross. Who is that person who can call upon the name of the God to cause a true repentance to his people. This is what our Lord Jesus Christ is looking for. But we are all fallen short of glory of God.

    Brethren, our battle is not on man created on fresh and blood, but on the principalities of this world. If the devil is defeated, we shall look for a Luo/Kikuyu/Kalenjin/Maasai but all in vain. For we shall no longer belong to our tribes, but to the tribe of our lord Jesus Christ. We shall all become brothers and sisters, with one mission (win more and more souls to the Kingdom of God) and one destiny (heaven our everlasting home). Just imagine, if God was take all of us to heaven right now, and today. We shall then take all our tribalism in heaven. One will ask God, why is this Kikuyu here? Another will ask, what about this Luo?, Yet another will ask, what about this Kalenjin?. Bethren, let take a quiet moment assess our soul once more.

    Lets true repentance start with one of us. Lets us dismantle the spirit of tribalism that is already within us. Let our hearts be able to see each other person as children of God. This is what God in heaven yearns for. Lets desist all the spirit that are not from God, and we will be able to plead for our country. Our country does not need Kibaki/Raila/Kalonzo or any other person. It needs God. When we give God his right position in our country, we will not look for our tribes (Luos, Kikuyus, kalenjins etc.). Our focus will be on our God the creator.

    Our bitterness is just hindering the deliverance power of the cross. Let tell God, to take away all the bitterness within us. Create in us a new soul. A soul with the true love of the cross. God is waiting for you and me to leave our tribe behind, and focus on him. God is waiting for you and me to leave all our expectations and focus on him alone. God is waiting for you and me to save Kenya. Am sure when all this is done we shall be able to discern that is from God, and that is not from God.

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  • 147. THEODORE  |  January 11, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    The lord is saying who will stand in the gap and pray, who will stand in the gap and pray for his church that is divided,much more than the nation, the church is divided and the lords heart is grieving, again the lord woke me up and said why should i relent from judging this land? why should i relent when they crucify me over and over, when they return me to the cross over and over, when they trample me underfoot, when they offer to me empty prayers and they defile the altar, with idol gods,why should i relent says the lord why should i relent from judging the land? the land is defiled with blood the blood is crying out to me, why should i relent from judging this land, is it hard for you to repent kenya? why do you repent with your mouth? where is your heart kenya?, your heart is filled with hatred, your heart is filled with death,i will wipe the wicked generation, just like idid in the wilderness, yes i allowed only joshua and caleb to enter in, iwill allow only the remnants to go over even the priest will find himself in foreign lands,iwillscatter the sheep for shepherds have become deaf and dumb and blind they have eyes but they dont see, they have refused to preach about my blood andthe cross, they only preach about silver and gold, they have called my blood and flesh despicable iwill punish the wicked says the lord iahve seen your tears kenya but it does not come from your hearts isee your hearts and your hearts are evil,where are those that will stand in the gap and pray for my church, my church in this land is in aworse state than the nation,says the lord,cursed is the man that relieth on the flesh,you rely on men that is why your land is cursed turn and rely on the lord, look to the lord search for him while he can be found why should you cry for peace my children when there is no justice, you want to go to heaven but you dont want to die,kenya why should i relent from judging you when your sins testify about you, you are divided my children even in my church, your corupt systems have corupted my church, the priest nolonger look after my sheep but they serve thir own interest, dint i say you are the light of the world my church in kenya you are the light of this nation you are to reflect my light my bride in kenya but you have lost your light you have forgoted the closet where iknew your tears, where iknew your groanings and you nolonger seek my face my church, the battle is won my children now you see that which looks like it is strongly grounded but its roots are weak, it stems are rotten, man make plans my children but it is i the lord that determines it all, how can you heal the nation my church if you cannot heal yourself,you are divided my church, is christ divided?am i divided with my father i and my father are one, and those who are in me are one togather with me and the father, am not the author of confusion that you are in now, you will run to and fro kenya and the town will look small for you, my anger still burns over this land dont enjoy your peace deny yourself sleep and cry you will wake up and find not peace, the lord your God is mighty, his righteousness and justice is perfect,

    THE LORD SHOWS ME BURNING FAMES OF FIRE, HE SHOWS ME PEOPLE GETING THEIR MONEY OUT OF BANKS, THE LORD SHOWS ME PLANES BLOWING IN THE AIR,HE HAS PLACED ASHIELD OF FIRE IT IS LIKE ELECTRIC SHIELD ALLOWING NO VEHICLES OTU OF THE COUNTRY,AND EVERYTHING THAT ATEMPTS TO LEAVE IS SHREDED, THEN HE SHOWS ME AWOMAN, AWOMAN(AWOMAN SYMBOLISES ACHURCH) WITH SHREDED CLOTHS, SHE IS DESPISED, SHE GOES BY THE SHIELD AND HAHHERS IT AND IT OPENS AND NOTHING HAPPENS TO HER, THEN THE LORD SAY UNTO ME JUST LIKE THE GOOD SAMARITAN WAS NOT THE LEVITE AND WAS NOT THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS, THE LORD IS RAISING AREMNANT CHURCH, AND HE WILL LISTEN TO THEIR PRAYERS THEIR PRAYERS WILL BREAK OFF THE STRONGHOLD OVER KENYA

    WHERE ARE THE REMNANTS? THE LORD IS CALLING YOU TODAY MAKE AVOW TO GIVE YOUR EYES NO SLEEP UNTIL HIS JUSTICE COMES, GET AWAY FROM THE SMOOTH KNEES
    MUNDANE TALKERS,THE HOOTIE- TOOT SHOOT- UPS WHO FEED ON GABAGE FLOPS LIKE PIGS, SEPARATE YOURSELVES, CONSECRATE YOURSELVES AND CRY OUT TO THE LORD WITH THE AGONY BEAR HIS PAIN ALLW YOUR EYES NO SLEEP UNTIL JUSTICE COMES,

    This is arequest to the remnats to arise now, the time has come
    for the remnant church to arise and shine forth with his glory.
    please if you are not aremnant then do not do not obey, the request above the lord is doing census over the land of kenya and the true priesthood will be counted, just the way gideon chose the army the lord is doing acensus of those who will caryy his ark and lead the people through jordan, please if this is not acall for you continue praying in the way you have been repnt for yourselves first because the first altar is the altar of your heart ,

    AMEN so be it ,
    UNWORTHY BOND SLAVE SERVANT OF CHRIST
    THEODORE

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  • 148. Maan  |  January 11, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    Another thing brethren, remember Jesus on the cross. When he was in too much pain, and his spirit was groaning. He had power to rebuke and curse all those who had for no reason persecuted him. But for the love he had for mankind, he told his father to forgive for they knew not what they are doing.

    Lets grow to this level love. Like Abraham let us stand and tell God, to spare our leaders, and our country, for the the sake of righteous. Lord, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing. Open their eyes Lord, that they may see the power of the cross.

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  • 149. THEODORE  |  January 11, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    We continue to groan before the lord every friday we gather togather at chrisco church umoja every friday for overnight watch, intense prayer and worship from 9pm to 6pm,
    come and feel free to lay prostate before the lord with dust on your face and groan in the spirit for jstcie and the manifestations of the sons of god,
    this meeting is not for those who want to waste time or those who want to socialise, it is not ameeting for discusions and it is not ameeting for people who want to fall asleep if you want to gosip,socialise or discus things, then try other overnight meetings, but if you want to fall down on your face and cry out to your God then you are welcome, we want to know him more, we want to see his face
    even so come Lord JESUS, EVEN SO COME
    UNWORTHY BOND SLAVE SERVANT OF CHRIST
    THEODORE

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  • 150. anto  |  January 12, 2008 at 10:05 am

    The Story is for those praying for Justice. let’s do it with some facts.
    THE RIGGING STORY

    The international media especially in the EU has taken an offensive
    position against our nation I am saddened that we have all fallen for
    the allure of ODMs “truths”. The devil is hard at work and will do
    whatever necessary to turn the lord’s people around. If u have read
    the details of **** Morris’ Orange Revolution, this was an important
    step, conquer the media.

    Then, ODM borrowed one more from Hitler’s own handbook, “lie, lie and
    top up your lies with more lies and it will become true!” In Meru
    where they claim results were cooked, the public, along with ODM
    agents were at the announcements of the votes tallied. For example in
    Nithi, the results that emerged were as stated by ECK. ODM agents
    signed the form 16 and verified form 16As from all polling stations.
    The total turn out was something like 95000 out of 126,000 which is a
    normal 75%.

    Reports from Nithi indicate that people were not allowed to enter
    bars, matatus, and shops or even go home if they had no ink on their
    finger after voting! Meru came out in droves to vote! The reason:
    Raila was booed heckled and thrown out of Meru during campaigns. He
    then asked them why they did not vote Orange during referendum and
    then told them that they will cry in December. Meru is greatly angered
    by these statements and said that their weapon is their vote. Raila
    wanted to deny them that right. On the night that Kibaki was down 1
    million votes, he had only tallied 185000/1.7m votes from Central and
    85000 from Eastern. The delayed votes from Kibaki strong holds was
    part of a planned strategy. Many stations reported refusal by ODM
    agents to sign forms and multiple contest over results in parts of
    Central, Kisii, Eastern and Kikuyu Rift Valley .

    Meanwhile, ODM flooded the ECK with their results from Rift and Luo
    Nyanza to create an artificial lead. The results from Luo Nyanza and
    Rift Valley as PNU agents, (at an important meeting with the ECK along
    with all other party agents, at 4am) found out had areas with 95% or
    even over 100% turnout and some polling stations where everyone voted!
    Figures from the Daily Nation:
    -Sigor 115%
    -Eldoret North 116%
    -Mosop 97%
    -Emgwen 103%
    -Baringo N 92%
    -Narok South 120%
    -Bondo 102%
    -Kisumu Rural 120%
    -Karachuonyo 94%
    -Rangwe 92%
    -Ndhiwa 93%
    -Nyatike 95%
    -Mbita 95%

    Highest in both central and Eastern is Othaya: 90%. Dear Kenyans,
    Evaluate the rigging claims for yourselves! Meaning that even the
    dead, the unborn and the terminally ill in hospitals voted in Luo
    Nyanza and Rift Valley! Trust PNU to be fast asleep as this happened
    at the polling stations! At that meeting, ODM realized that from this
    audit, upon revisiting all the 210 constituencies with all the
    relevant documentation that Kibaki had won. Despite all their rigging
    and tribal inferences, ODM were out! Ruto rushed to deliver word to
    Raila who went to a press conference late morning. He came out before
    results were released and said that he does not want to pull off an
    Abiola (Research on Abiola) and does not want to resort to turning
    Kenya into an Ivory Coast! He implied he would not accept defeat of
    any sort.

    He also told his supporters to be calm until the announcement. This
    was to give them a signal to cause chaos upon announcement. Later,
    Raila walked into KICC guerilla style. He walked thru the plenary hall
    where everyone else was seated and stormed into the ECKs private
    chambers. With his entourage, they blockaded the ECK from leaving the
    room to announce results! This took place for hours all the time he
    was coercing the ECK to do what he wanted. When it wouldn’t work he
    went outside to address a press conference rejecting anything that the
    ECK would announce!

    Upon his re-entry into the plenary hall ECK arrived and Kivuitu began
    his announcement of the results from molo. Kibaki led in that
    constituency. Raila himself literally converged on Kivuitu as Ruto
    began to involve himself in physical confrontation. GSU had to step in
    and escort the ECK out as Ngilu tried to grab onto Kivuitu and stop
    him from leaving. Why was everyone including the media get thrown out?
    Some press members comprised a large group of hecklers that were a big
    part of the planned ODM chaos. They had to be removed! ECK went to the
    VIP room and with official observers and KBC announced the result.
    Another question, why did the ECK take so long to announce even when
    they knew the winner? First, delayed results, second, ODM
    interference. The third thing is here. While the agents were at the
    ECK for the meeting last night, the results were apparent and Kibaki
    had won. His agents reported back to him. Kibaki asked ECK to stall
    the announcement so as to allow for the army to assemble at the
    barracks and go into red alert as well as to position the police
    countrywide! This also allowed time for the CJ to be taken to
    statehouse early. A vacuum at such a time could result in military
    rule if there is civil strife! Kibaki was thus quickly sworn in .
    Raila also wanted to call on a million plus supporters to stream into
    Uhuru Park where he would be pronounced president and sworn in
    separately. The govt took action. It blocked all live broadcasts to
    avert this coup attempt.

    The lack of media has enabled the govt to keep out inflammatory
    messages that will cause worse strife. Kikuyu in Eldoret have been
    killed like nonsense. In Kisii migori, after the results came out, ten
    people killed in less than 15 mins. In Rift, Kalenjins are killing
    each other. In one estate they burnt house after house while throwing
    people out into the street and killing them. A friend’s house was in
    that estate . Her whole family, kalenjins, regretted voting for Raila
    and giving him the mandate to cause chaos. She said that it might be
    her last day as all her neighbors were out on the street dead! Kikuyu
    homes and businesses have been burnt to a crust in all slums. The Luo
    have destroyed their own home in Kisumu and now Kibera is all on fire!
    All this for the selfish ambitions of Raila! He called them out as he
    followed **** Morris strategy to the letter !

    Kenyans chose Kibaki. He is a national figure! He had over 25% in 7
    provinces and even 17% in Nyanza and Raila had that in only 6
    provinces and in central and eastern he had just 2% and 5%
    respectively. Most impressively Kibaki got a large tally of votes in
    Western, North Eastern and Coast! We need to unite at this time to
    refuse militant rulers in our country who refuse to follow the rule of
    law and will take power by force. He blatantly dismissed the laws of
    Kenya in Sunday morning’s press conference by saying he does not care
    for the courts and will not set foot there to settle his grievances!
    He has chosen to use force and the blood of Kenyans to seize power! We
    refuse! We pray against it! He cannot deny us 10 million Kenyans who
    turned up, stood for seven and a half hours and even lost our IDs to
    exercise our constituitional right!

    We are here and we are together as peace loving KENYANS. Join us in
    solidarity. We love Kenya too much to see such abuse of our laws and
    unity! As for the EU, I take a stand to publicly denounce them. Their
    comments are based on their own selfish vested interests in this
    country. The fact of the matter which u all know is that the EU has
    been a loser throughout the five years Kibaki has ruled! They have
    lost billions of Euros in trade to the Far East and they are not happy
    about that at all.

    Fact: Kenya engages with China for a large majority of its trade which
    was previously monopolized by the EU .

    Fact: Kenya has given over 90% of all its contracts to China for
    infrastructure!

    Fact: Kenya is no longer dependent on the donor funding to draw up its
    budget! Kenya relies on local revenues for 95% of its budget with the
    other meagre 5% shared out between donor funds from China, EU and US.
    In comparison Tanzania and Uganda draw up 78% and 88% respectively of
    their budgets from donor funding. The donor community is full of
    sharks that use donor money to siphon trillions out of their own
    economies!

    Fact: Kenya has been the torch bearer for the rights of African and
    Pacific nations to have fair and unbridled trade with the EU. They are
    making ALOT of progress. EU has gained nothing from Kibaki’s
    administration and wants him to go! They want us eating out of their
    hands like we did in Moi’s time. This is neo-colonialism! Divide and
    conquer. It has happened in too many African countries for us to be
    blind here in Kenya! We refuse EU control of our Nation! They want to
    turn us against ourselves so as to take strategic positions in the
    process. They are looking for ethnic cleansing and genocide to
    overrule Kenya. Never!

    Kenyans, open your eyes, the war is not within but with those around us!
    THE PROPHECY WE ALL IGNORED – IS IT RIGHT AFTER ALL?
    A globally reputed prophet had on the morning of September 30th 2007,
    foretold on his website that President Mwai Kibaki would be
    re-elected(among other 30 highlights on Kenya) M any who saw the
    posting brushed him aside, he had also foretold of chaos after the
    election… now we just cannot ignore him any more.

    In the prophesy posted on the link http://www.thomasma nton.com.
    /prophecies/ index.php? ctr_id=110&cnt_id=2 , the prophet remains
    optimistic that Kenyans will recover from the current crisis and that
    the nation will have more airlines, a booming tourism industry and
    great development projects.

    He says that the military and the police will play a key role in
    containing the current crisis and will succeed in restoring order.
    Here are some of the highlights:

    1. The Upcoming Presidential Elections: “President Mwai Kibaki will be
    re-elected as Kenya’s President on December 27, 2007. My Hand is upon
    him to produce continued development and reformation in Kenya over the
    next five years, says the Lord!

    2. Parliament: Changes are coming in your Parliament.

    3. Crime and Law Enforcement: I will arrange a great increase in law
    enforcement in your nation beginning in this next season. Crime will
    be dealt with severely; and it will decrease greatly and even be
    eradicated in certain sectors in the coming season!

    4. Conflicts, Violence and Unrest: I saw three Visions of clashes: 1)
    The first conflict I saw was involving the Mungiki. I saw men in
    military uniforms going in against these criminals to foil them. This
    happened swiftly thereafter. 2) I saw tribal-clashes. (Kuresoi?). 3)
    Then I saw a horrible scene of social unrest ~ resulting in violence
    and rioting in the streets. ( The post election menace? ) I then saw
    your military and police going out forcefully to stop those causing
    these violent eruptions.
    .
    .
    .
    .
    10. ODM: In the first week of March 2007, God said that the ODM
    ‘opposition-party,’ would be put into derision, and that they would be
    ‘split-up.’ Some weeks later, reports hit the national headlines that
    Kenyatta was leaving; Raila would have his own ODM; and Kilonzo would
    head his own ODM-Kenya.

    11. Embarrassment in Raila Camp: “Some things will come out from
    behind the scenes in October and November, 2007 that will ‘discredit’
    Mr. Raila in the eyes of many . He will not rise again fully in his
    ‘popularity’ after this, says the Lord!” (I guess MOU with Islamists;
    **** Morris saga; Nazlin’s confessions; majimbo; safaricom deal to
    Americans etc)

    12. Election Polls: The tide of the election-polls will turn; and the
    two front-running candidates will come to an ‘even-point!’ Then, the
    Election will go the way God has ordained!

    13. Ousting from the President’s Cabinet: On May 29, 2007, God said
    that ‘a couple’ of leaders from within the President’s Cabinet would
    be ousted because of their defection within the ranks (I guess Ngilu,
    Koech????) .

    THOSE who voted for Kibaki are NOT KENYANS?

    The impression created by the term “Kenyans have spoken” is that only
    those who supported a certain candidate are Kenyans. My understanding
    is that those who voted for Hon. Odinga – the MP-elect for Langata,
    are Kenyans. I am further of the understanding that those who voted
    for President Kibaki and MP-elect for Othaya are Kenyans.

    I am even further convinced beyond doubt that another 20+ million
    people in Kenya who did not vote for either of the two are Kenyans
    too.

    Even if Hon. Odinga got one vote, while President Kibaki got 17
    Million votes that one vote for Odinga is from a Kenyan. If President
    Kibaki got one vote and Mr. Odinga got 10 million, that one vote for
    Kibaki is from a Kenyan.

    It is this kind of selective application of terms and situations that
    is in part fueling the animosity we are seeing.

    We are hearing of rigging elections by President Kibaki, but we are
    not being told why Mr. Odinga’s brother – Mr. Oburu Odinga, was
    elected in a constituency that returned a 102% voter turnout. A 102%
    voter turnout is rigging, my friends . Rigging is rigging.

    Mr. Odinga is a Kenyan and his supporters are Kenyans. President
    Kibaki is a Kenyan, and his supporters are Kenyans.
    The most pressing thing right now is for leaders in both sides of the
    divide to realize that life is so sacred, that there is no ambition
    whatsoever that is worth killing people over. How would Hon. Odinga
    and President Kibaki feel if those were their children, sisters,
    brothers, mothers or fathers that were burned while taking refuge in a
    church from FELLOW KENYANS?

    The time is NOW for Hon. Odinga to go on national TV and radio and
    categorically tell his KENYAN supporters to cease the wanton taking of
    lives and destruction of property. The buck stops with him. It is his
    supporters (and those loaned to him by Ruto) that are rioting and
    committing genocide.

    The latest genocide
    Case 1
    Patrick is a Kikuyu businessman from Eldoret, where at least 50 people
    were burned to death as they were seeking refuge in a church. He, his
    wife, his six children and a few other members of his immediate family
    fled Eldoret earlier today.

    Here’s what he had to say about the situation in Eldoret and in Kenya
    as a whole…

    What was the situation when you left?
    The situation in Eldoret is pathetic. It is systematic annihilation of
    a tribe, in my opinion. It actually took God to make it to the
    airport. Along the way, we were attacked by the Kalenjin warriors but
    through God’s grace and because we had requested a police escort, we
    barely made it through. But in the convoy that we were in, we almost
    lost one car. But through God’s grace, we made it to the airport. It’s
    been hell. I can say that.

    When did you know you had to leave?
    Actually, we knew that we would have wanted to have stayed because we
    were born and bred in Eldoret. My parents moved into Eldoret way back
    in 1940. So we don’t know anywhere else as home, apart from that place
    .

    But when we realized that this had moved from the ODM, PNU conflict to
    something much deeper, and that the presidential elections had been
    used as an excuse for something else to be implemented, [for] the
    Kalenjins to get rid of the Kikuyus, that’s when we realized that we
    had to move out. That was the day before yesterday.

    How did you leave?
    We had to request our friends in Nairobi to come to our aid by
    chartering a plane because we could not access money and we didn’t
    have the kind of money that is needed to charter a plane. Our friends
    here in Nairobi came together and raised the money.

    “It’s whoever gets out, gets out.”

    Who have you left behind?
    Our family is quite large. What I managed to do is to get my immediate
    family, my wife and my children but I have left my cousins, I have
    left my brothers. I am trying to communicated with my brothers to see
    if they can join us. But the situation is so bad that we can not say
    that we have to move as the whole clan. We are several hundred. We
    have lost several members in the conflict.

    We have another small batch of relatives at the airport. They might
    make it today or tomorrow. We don’t know. We are still working on
    getting the ones who are in town because you can not get to the
    airport without escort. It’s an enormous challenge that we don’t’ know
    how far we can go because the resources needed to charter this plane
    are enormous. It costs between 170,000 to 320,000 Kenya shillings to
    charter a 19-seater.

    I told you that my family is expansive. I lost two of my relatives in
    an area, very young boys. But what was even more disheartening, was my
    grandmother. She has a farm in Burnt Forest. When the clashes began,
    they left their homes and they went to a school, the whole village.
    The school was surrounded by the warriors. Any second, they could have
    attacked the school and finished them. We cried to the police and the
    police did send some policemen. The warriors still insisted that they
    wanted to kill these people. The police brokered a deal. [The people
    had to walk 20 KM to the nearest town, without getting anything from
    their homes.] Those villagers are trapped in a small town. We can’t
    get them food and we can’t get them to Eldoret town. They can’t come
    out.

    “We really fear that there might be a massacre in Eldoret in the next few days.”

    Patrick’s wife Ruth chimes in…

    There is great fear in Eldoret town because people are being pushed
    into one central place, at the police station and at the church. What
    we have seen is that they are coming now and burning the churches at
    the outskirts. So far, we know that three churches have been burned
    and they have blocked all the exits out of town such that you can not
    get out of Eldoret town. So there is that great fear: why are we being
    pushed to the center for town? What is the intention?

    What we have seen in the outskirts, the violence is so much. There is
    no precedent for it. In 1992, in 1997, it was not this fierce [during
    past land clashes]. So there is that great fear among the Kikuyu
    community in Eldoret. Why are we being put in one central place and we
    can not get out? So we really fear that there might be a massacre in
    Eldoret in the next few days.

    You are holding quite a picture on the cover of that paper…? [As we
    were talking, Patrick was holding a copy of today's paper in his hand.
    On the cover was a photo of a woman wailing outside the burnt shell of
    the church in Eldoret where a group of sheltering Kikuyus were
    killed.]

    This is a very sad moment. When I made it to Nairobi and I was able to
    get this paper. One of my families lives next to this church that was
    burned. Over 70 children and women were killed in this church [Media
    and official reports of the numbers vary widely]. It’s barely a
    kilometer from where some of my relatives live. It means that some of
    my relatives, I don’t know, maybe some were caught up in there. But so
    far we believe they are not caught up there.

    This is a very good example of what we are talking about. We know that
    historically, people have warred. They have always tribe versus tribe,
    for many reasons, some petty, some reasonable. But we know that the
    house of God is a place that, across the world, people respect.
    According to the African culture, children and women are not killed.
    We also know that the Kalenjin warriors, according to their culture,
    because we have lived with them, they don’t kill women or children.

    So when it comes to a point whereby they go to a house of God where
    children and women are taking refuge and they kill them there, this is
    taking the conflict to another level that we believe is not the
    presidential race.

    How surprised are you by what’s happened?
    I am shocked. I know the Kalenjin, they are warlike. We know, we live
    with them, that they have those regiments, they have warriors. But we
    know that they are also very peace-loving people, we know that we have
    inter-married with them. This is why it is very shocking that it has
    gone to this level.

    When there was this conflict that the presidential race was unfair,
    rigging had taken place, and we definitely expected some outcry. We
    definitely expected some people marching. It’s not the first time. In
    Kenya’s we’ve had land clashed, 1992, 1997. It’s not like it’s
    something that is new to us. But the level that this has been taking…

    Believe me, the death count that you are reading in the newspaper,
    actually it is over ten times this. The attacks have been undertaken
    all around Eldoret. All around. All the farms, all the villages. If
    one time, it would be possible to have a death count, we are not
    talking of hundreds, we are talking of thousands.

    What long-term effect do you think this conflict might have in Eldoret
    and in the country as a whole?
    We know what has happened in other countries. We know what has
    happened in Bosnia, what has happened in Rwanda. Let’s not lie to
    ourselves that maybe there will not be retaliation.

    In Rwanda, when the Hutus killed the Tutsis, it was fun until the
    tables turned and the Tutsis started killing the Hutus. We all know
    how many millions have died there. The reality is that, definitely,
    even if it is not me, there are people who are pained. You never know,
    it might take ten years, and an opportunity will occur for them to
    revenge. You never know, anything will trigger it.

    Right now, the Kikuyus might be killed and everybody is excited and
    it’s fine and it cools down. And even Kibaki can say he has given up
    the seat and it is fine, it cools down. But an opportunity one time
    will present itself and this will not be forgotten.

    Case 2
    Caesar Wamalika, chaplain at the University of Eastern Africa in
    Baraton, in Rift Valley, spoke to the BBC to give a personal account
    of how a crowd of more than 1,000 people threatened to storm his
    campus unless some ethnic groups left. Caesar Wamalika says he and his
    colleagues are threatened daily It all began soon after the election
    results were announced. A number of groups from the local community
    broke into war songs and raided the shopping centre next to the
    university.

    They looted all the shops that belong to Kikuyus and Kisiis. Then they
    broke into the rented off-campus houses of some students and then a
    crowd of about 1,000 people surged to the university gate and shouted
    that they wanted to storm the university.

    They demanded that all Kikuyus, Kambas, Meru, and Kisii people leave
    the university within two hours. That was the only way to save the
    university from being stormed.

    They said they would stay at the gate until their demands were met.
    Three armed policemen arrived and spent time negotiating with the
    crowd. Finally the police advised us to evacuate the named ethnic
    groups.

    All of them are armed with machetes, bows and arrows. Some are drunk
    and others baying for blood

    We put those specified faculty staff and students, numbering about
    250, into three university vehicles and they were taken to Kapsabet
    Police station under police escort. They have been there for four
    days. Several attempts have been made to take them home.

    The police tried and take them to Eldoret international airport but
    there were too many road blocks set up by different gangs and so they
    had to return to the police station. There is no way anyone can get
    out.

    The situation at the police station is not good. There is no food or
    clean water , but their worst fear is the possibility of the station
    being stormed, as such threats have been made. The police are few and
    overstretched.

    No one is safe. There are about 300 faculty members from the Luo and
    Luhyia community, international workers and students who are still
    holed up within the campus with me.

    We have been having daily threats from the crowds of people outside
    the campus. On one occassion, we had to give a bull for them to
    slaughter to guarantee us peace .

    It is a nightmare to meet them. All of them are armed with machetes,
    bows and arrows. Some are drunk and others baying for blood. I have
    never seen anything like this. One needs to be diplomatic when
    speaking to them.

    Violence swept the country after the elections. We have managed to
    succeed in pleading with the militia to allow us transport to send
    food to those at the police station. It took three hours to go through
    road blocks to reach Kapsabet, which is only 15 km away.

    There has been a change of heart from some commanders and militia
    leaders who know the university’s administration. They said that on
    humanitarian grounds, the faculty with children and pregnant mothers
    should be allowed to return to the campus.

    They also told us students of the other communities should also be
    allowed back. It sounded like good news. We shook hands. We asked them
    to transport food to Kapsabet. They agreed and used their own
    vehicles.

    Locked in
    But the food never arrived. We then found out that the militia who
    were escorting the food had been beaten and their vehicles smashed by
    another group .

    That is the problem we are facing – having to negotiate with different
    militia groups who all have their own separate terms that we have to
    try and fulfil. The roadblocks are manned by between 100 and 500
    people – in some major road blocks you will have a thousand.

    This morning, as a political rally was announced, the crowd came again
    to the university gate, this time demanding that we join them in a
    mass demonstration. We feared being put on the front line and probably
    be first to face the armed police.

    Our University public relations officer managed to negotiate with them
    to leave – but they have chained the main gate, locked it and gone
    away with the key. No vehicle can get in or out of the campus now. We
    pray that they don’t come again to force us out.

    There is a shortage of essential items. Nowhere to buy food, we don’t
    have telephone calling cards and there is no fuel. The market is
    deserted and shops are closed. While the situation is calming down,
    there is still fear of what the next day might bring. We are still
    making efforts to escort our faculty safely away from the police
    station.

    What needs to happen to build peace?

    We are peace-loving country and God-fearing. It is said that over 80
    percent of Kenyans are Christians. Even one of the things that came up
    in the campaign period was the issue of whether the leaders were
    Christians. Raila said he is a staunch Anglican Christian. President
    Kibaki said he is a staunch Catholic Christian. But I am asking, where
    are these pastors? Where are these pastors in Eldoret, Kalenjin
    pastors? Where is this Christianity?

    I am shocked that pastors that had been preaching for us to be
    god-fearing, they are not coming out to condemn this. They are quiet
    as the work is being done. And when maybe everybody is down, they will
    come to bury us and say a very good prayer.

    Because in my opinion, there is an opportunity for the church to rise above politics and take its position. How come this Christianity is not playing a role here? Why can’t I hear a Kalenjin bishop or a Kalenjin father or a Kalenjin pastor or a Kalenjin Imam, for that matter, coming out and saying “No, our religion forbids killing women and children??” If it’s men, it’s another issue. You can claim they are combatants. And in any war, combatants die. But I don’t believe Christianity or Islam would agree for children and women to be killed in the house of God.

    So peace-building, the church has to begin. Right now we don’t trust the political leadership. I want to confess and say, I have not seen Kibaki coming out to speak strongly about it. I want to tell you, I think Raila has said he is not concerned unless Kibaki resigns. The person who is the leader in our area, he is just quiet.

    So before the politicians can even sit, I would like to see the church coming out and putting their feet down. That is the first thing.

    The second thing, as we are speaking, you might get a report that the
    war has cooled down. But we have thousands of people camped at the
    police station and church compounds and they are starving to death. So
    as much as they were not pierced by the arrows at their farms, they
    are dying slowly.

    If nothing is done for that, you will be lying to people, saying that
    there is peace.

    When there are two warring parties, it always takes a third party to come in and give reason. What we are observing is the international community being silent. We know that the international community knows
    what is happening. They are taking it lightly. We know the same
    mistake was done in Rwanda, whereby the Rwandese started killing each other, they cried out to the international community. The international community ignored them until up to a million Rwandans were dead.

    The same story is being repeated in Eldoret, Burnt Forest, Londiani and kuresoi. This is genocide being done.
    This is majimbo per excellence.

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  • 151. Nandi raider  |  January 12, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Thats bullcrap anto ur spamming.

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  • 152. kenyan  |  January 12, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Is this a Christian blog? I am shocked by the falsehoods, enmity and hatred exhibited by so called people of God. What God do all of u serve?

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  • 153. SADAM  |  January 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    ANTO YOU SMOKED DOPE AND YOU HAVE AMNESIA,KENYAN YOU MUST HAVE BEEN IN A DEEP SLEEP YOU ARE NOT WITH US YOU LIVE IN AWORLD OF YOUR OWN OR KALONZO IS YOUR GRANNY ,PEOPLE ARE TALKING WHAT IS GOING ON CHRISTIANS DO NOT LIVE IN THE CLOUDS THEY LIVE HERE ON EARTH AND THEY HAVE FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS TOO, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE FROM MARS AND YOU ARE TOO HOLY, YOU ARE NOT GOD BE HUMAN YOU CAN BE TO MUCH HEAVENLY MINDED YOU ARE NOT GOOD FOR EARTH, PROSPERITY PREACHERS LIKE MANTON ANTO IF THEY DON’T STOP PREACHING THAT CRAP OF KENYA PROSPERING IF THEY CANT REPENT THEY WILL BURN WITH THAT GOSPEL FROM THE DEVIL, ANTO SHUT UP LET US PRAY LIKE YOU HAVE HEARD DON’T WRITE TOO MUCH CRAP HERE WE DON’T NEED IT KEEP IT FOR YOURSELF OR TAKE IT TO THE COURT YOU KALONZO MOLE

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  • 154. Lulizi  |  January 13, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Anto, we are sure with all this write up, you are not praying seriously! The more than 4 hours you invested in this would have been spent more productively in prayer. I suggested earlier on that we pray more and do less talking. We all know what happened and so let us stop whipping the horse. We are not condemning anybody and I really do not care who is right or wrong here. The Bible is clear that the battle is the Lord’s. If we humble ourselves, repent and pray and seek God, He will heal the land.

    God’s part is to heal the land but our part is not to say who did what: we should pray and direct our eyes to the hills from where our help comes from. Let’s keep to the deal. God will only do His part when we do our part faithfully.

    I also said earlier on that the reason we are in this mess is because we dethroned Christ from our lifes and installed there personalities. Jeremiah said cursed is the man who puts his trust in man. To Anto, and all of us, please, stop justifying your “man”. Only God will truly bring blessing in your life, not a Kibaki, an Odinga or a Kalonzo. Please rely on God and enthrone Him in your life afresh.

    Kindest regards.
    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 155. Maan  |  January 13, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Dear Brethrens, lets take mor time to thank and praise Lord or God for what is happening in our country. Remember when Paul & Silas were thrown in prison, they did not allow their bitterness restrain them from thanking and praising God. They did not condemn their accusers. Instead, they continued praying and singing hymns to God, until the doors opened (Acts 26:25).

    Remember Job, pure and holy person before the eyes of God. He was so righteous and clean that God had a testimony for him. He was proud of him, to a point of telling the devil how strong Job was. Although Job could not understand what was happening to him, he knew God had a great purpose for allowing all those trials and temptation happen. He did not listen to discouragement and judgment being brought to him by his friends. But instead focused on God, until God revealed, reasons why he had to go through that.

    God wants us to learn many things from what happening today in our country. May be as prophets says, God is judging Kenya. May be God has a testimony concerning the church in Kenya. May be God want to raise his church once more. Let us continue praying and singing hymns to God, and thanking God for all our leaders (Raila, Kibaki, Kalonzo etc.). May the church wait patiently for God to reveal his reasons why he had to allow this happen to Kenya. This will only happen, if church turns to God sincerely with prayers, praise & thanks giving. He remains God in midst of confusion, war, disagreement. Let the church wait patiently as our lord Jesus Christ fights his battle. For this battle is not ours is the Lord.

    Always keep in mind, we are all one family, family of God irrespective of the diversity of tribes God has put in Kenya. Lets pray for each one of us without bias, without judging & justifying our deeds. In his time he will make all things beautiful.

    Lets love one another, with love of God. Preach peace, unity, love, for all those who belong from the tribe of our Lord Jesus christ. And let the others learn from us.
    Cheers

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  • 156. Lulizi  |  January 13, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    I concur, Maan! 100% Let the focus be on Christ and not the deeds ans misdeeds of politicians.

    The Focus and the Centre of Attraction in our lives is Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Author and Finisher of Faith!

    Ona Yesu!

    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 157. ash  |  January 13, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    we should all be united as kenyans.no tribes because that is not what God sees when he looks at us. lets love each other and be prayerful asking the will of God be done.God knows what is best for us.His eyes see beyond. For the people saying God has spoken to them, they should be sure that God trully has spoken and that they are not just saying what the flesh is yearning for and misleading others. Remember that there’s a punishment awaiting for such people and they will be exposed to the whole world. People. lets fear God and be humble because He will lift us up! be blessed.

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  • 158. wycliffe  |  January 14, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Let us not go the political way but God’s way.He has spoken and he is more supreme than anything else.We have to humble ourselves and seek his face.Self exaltation or justification will take us nowhere.God is true to his word.Jesus did not shed his blood for an apostate church that is lukewram and is looking for name,money and do not want to discipline themselves and seek his face.Enough is enough.All of us who are expressing our views in this blog,go back to God with humility and if you do not know how to do it,ask the spirit of God to help you in your infirmity for this will help and heal you first before healing the nation because the nation is comprissed by you and the rest.Let us all put politicsto rest and hand it over to God to do it his way for he knows how.You and I have seen ethnic hate,tribalism,lukewarmnes and division in the church.Whatelse do you still need to be told?Whether you feel your man or tribesman is in power or you badly want your own to be there,the reality that we are all faced with is that we must forget ourselves and what we want and get back to God with the whole of our hearts,soul and body.It is time.

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  • 159. sadam  |  January 14, 2008 at 10:55 am

    ASH WHO ARE YOU? DONT QUESTION WHAT THE LORD HAS SPOKEN HE HAS SPOKEN TO HIS SERVANTS UNLES YOU HEAR FROM PNU DEVILS,GOD HAS CONFIRMED THE WORD THROUGH MANY MEN OF GOD EVEN THE WHOLE NATION KNOWS GOD HAS CALMED DOWN HIS PEOPLE THROUGH THE WORDS OF HIS SERVANTS PLUS WHAT LULIZI SAID AND YOU WANT TO RAISE OUR EMOTIONS AGAIN BY QUESTIONING THE WORD OF THE LORD SHUT UP REPENT WE SHOULD BE PRAYING WE DONT WANT TO SEE THOSE COMMENTS HERE WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT PRAYERS AND NOTHING ELSE BUT [PRAYERS NOW,PRAYERS AND WAITING UPON THE WILL OF THE LORD SOME OF THOSE MEN YOU ARE QUESTIONING WHO gO SPOKE TOARE OVER US AND WE WILL FIGHT YOU IF YOU DARE SPEAK AGAINTS THEM

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  • 160. candy  |  January 14, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    TRIBALISM! TRIBALISM! TRIBALISM!
    EVEN IN THE CHURCH – U R ALL TRIBALIST THEODORE INCLUDED!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 161. candy  |  January 14, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    THEODORE:

    I DARE U TO GIVE US ANOTHER PROPHECY OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT. IM SURE U’LL BE WRONG – AGAIN

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  • 162. Martin  |  January 14, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Candy

    Why do you sound so bitter? Please seek God in Prayer, He will restore you back to Him.

    The servant of the Lord Theodore will not speak the word from the Lord, because you have asked him to do so but because the Lord God who reigns over all kingdoms of this earth through His Holy spirit has given him a word to speak.

    Please lets stop questioning the prophets, if you do not believe what they say just keep quite. ” The undefiled remnant will seek Gods face concerning this nation and the lords purpose shall come to pass”

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  • 163. wycliffe  |  January 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Candy,the man of God will not answer you for his defence is not with men but with God who called him.If you cannot humble yourself then please just wait and see what God can do to the unrepentant at heart.Humble yourself before the mighty hand of God that he may exalt you.Let the wicked forsake his ways and his thoughts and let him return to the Lord and he will graciously pardon him.humble yourself Candy and you shall see the Glory of God.

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  • 164. LANDON  |  January 14, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Now Ev. Wairimu endorses Kalonzo. That he is playing with the rattling snakes he does not know. Am sure mid his term(if they survive),the Anti-Change will turn around on him. Let him not think he will escape.When they are crying out “peace, peace,” then sudden destruction shall come upon them. It is dangerous to side with one whom God is judging. Therefore come out from among them, O My people, that you be not a partaker with them in their sins. Even a small child can be able to see the sins committed by this government. Where is proper judgment, clarity of vision to see the evils propagated in our society. Will God endorse teh evil acts of the Kibaki govt. Nay, He will speedily judge them, as we are already seeing. Kalonzo himself rightly said, What will it profit Kalonzo, if Kenya is destroyed and their is no country to be vice president over? If he does not back off, he will remember these words-CLEARLY.These two plan to plunge the country into great tribulation,all because of their selfish interest. ARISE KENYA AND PRAY FOR EVIL SHALL NOT TRIUMPH!He who faints in the day of adversity, HIS STRENGTH IS SMALL.
    As for the government of this day, i know the writing is on the wall-MENE, MENE, TEKEL UPHARSIN. The Lord shall remember you for all the evil you did in this land!

    Peace be with you all who love and pray for this nation. The struggle has just began. As they were entering the promised land, they had to fight the enemies there. We fight, but not with carnal weapons but spiritual-mighty in God for pulling down the strongholds of evil in this land. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. This shall be your victory all you lovers of righteousness and haters of wickedness, and the Lord, He shall anoint your face with gladness above your fellows.

    As for the wicked-opposed to what the Lord desires for this nation, I say, may their sins find them out!

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  • 165. Nderi  |  January 14, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    wow!

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  • 166. Nderi  |  January 14, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Sins this, Jesus that, Kibaki this, Raila That and Kalonzo the other. Be very careful, the stick you use to measure others shall be the one used to measure yourself. If i were you I would be slow to condemn and quick to forgive.
    Regards

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  • 167. sadam  |  January 14, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    CANDY!!! REPENT OR PERISH PRAY OR PERISH
    STOP YOUR NONSENSE AND PRAY YOU ARE RETURNING US BACKWARD HERE,WE WANT MEAT DONT BRING MILK HERE YOU SOUND LIKE ABABY SUCKLING ON CANDY MOMY!!!!!MOMY!!! GIVE ME MORE CANDY!!

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  • 168. Lulizi  |  January 14, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    We have not reached perfection yet. There are many things that are yet to happen. God in the book of Hebrews promised to shake the world once more. Those who were exuding confidence in the election campaigns are now hiding in caves! Please do not be too confident…… God is God! Please people, fear God and if you have to boast as Jeremiah said, boast that you know the Lord.

    The shaking has began so that the shakables in our lives will drop and only that which is unshakable will remain, which is the Kingdom of God. This shaking is purifying those who are willing to be refined.

    When God spoke His Word to Moses to deliver His children from bondage in Egypt, God hardened Pharaoh’s heart. Even after many miracles, one would have scoffed and said, “if God really said it, why has it not happened after so may miracles had been displayed”. It took 120 years to built the ark and people mocked Noah all along.

    I wish to caution some writers here to remain in a prayerful mood and see where God takes this country. The year has not yet ended. God is at work and if the Vision tarries, as Habakkuk said, wait for it, for it is for an appointed time.

    Let us pray that as things realign themselves in the next couple of days and weeks, that the perfect will of God will be done. Sometimes we do operate in the permissible will of God even without knowing it. Let us pray that we shall not operate under the permissible will of God but rather the perfect will of God.

    One thing that is evident at the moment, is that we are not in the perfect will of God. With people dying, hungry, displaced, fearful, etc., surely who can say this is the perfect will of God for Kenya? I still believe we are in transition, in which God is circumcising the hearts of the Kenyan people.

    Please submit yourself therefore unto God. God is still taking us to the land of plenty and abundance but when we reach there He says, “when you have eaten and are full, do not forget the Lord and say it was by the might of my hands that I made this wealth; if it wwere not for Kibaki or Odinga or Kalonzo, we would not be where we are today”.

    God hates idolatry (when we worship other things besides Him) and He wants to ensure that your commitment and loyalty is wholly to Him and not to any man; for He cannot share His glory with anyone.

    Selah!

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  • 169. sadam  |  January 14, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    CANDY I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT JESUS LOVED HIS TRIBE HE WAS CALLED THE LION FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, HE WAS VERY TRIBAL AND REMEMBER THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL, VERY IMPORTANT TO GOD AND THEY WILL COME BACK DURING THE END TIME THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL WILL BE RESTORED GOD IS SHOWING US HOW TRIBE IS VERY IMPORTANT, READ YOUR BIBLE YOU CANDY AND STOP SUCKLING ON CANDY LIKE ABABY

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  • 170. Andrew Mnjama  |  January 15, 2008 at 8:17 am

    “They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. ‘Peace, peace,’ they say, when there is no peace.” Jeremiah 6:14 (8:11)

    “Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom.” James 4:9
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    Si Raila, Si Kibaki, Si Kalonzo tu !

    Si Raila, Si Kibaki, Si Kalonzo tu,
    Sote, Kenya nzima, tutubu dhambi zetu
    Woi, Woi, Mungu Baba, Tunaomba
    Rehema, Kwetu Kenya

    Dear friends,

    In addition to whatever else you are doing, please go through the book of Prophet Jeremiah and the New Testament book of James during this period of lamentation for our nation.

    But before you do that, take time quickly and go through Isaiah chapter 14, then worship the God who will have the last work on Kenya.

    After you receive God’s message through Isaiah, realize though, for now, it is not time to sing songs of triumph. It is wailing time; it is time to cry in repentance for our sins, those of our families, clans, tribes and our entire nation.

    Again, be sure to go through the entire books of Jeremiah and James as you pray for our country.

    God bless you,
    God bless your family,
    God bless Kenya … no longer the pride of Africa!

    Have mercy on us, O Lord!

    Wailing with you,

    Andrew Mnjama

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  • 171. Alana  |  January 15, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Kenyans, dear kenyans, before we can apportion blame to either KIBAKI, RAILA or whatever else, lets kneel down and cry to our God. We need one country. not another Zimbabwe. We need each other, regardless of the tribe or religion. At the end of all this we need a country. Where all of us can live in peace and harmony. We dont need politicians, we need leaders. and at the moment, most of the people shouting at rooftops are neither leaders nor visionaries. They want power, power and more power. If you asked me, they would let us have a peaceful nation and we continue with our day to day lives. Otherwise, tribes will always be there. And we all belong here. and None of us is about to flee and become a refugee when we were blessed with such a beautiful country. I for one, I will die here, not any other place in the world. Lets all PRAY, WITHOUT CEASING.

    Alana

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  • 172. Janet  |  January 15, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I totally agree with Bro. Andrew. It is not time for any Kenyan to rejoice be it a Kibaki supporter or Raila or Kalonzo supporter. Our nation is undergoing judgement. With the stolen elections, imagine the demonic spirits that are rulling. We want a nation whose foundation and builder is God and not thuggery, murder, tribalism etc. I think this is a golden opportunity to humble ourselves and get God back into our nation.

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  • 173. anto  |  January 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Hi Lulizi, Thanks for the rebuke. I have been praying but not enuff, I can feel it.

    If we say we are in the light and do not love our brothers, we deceive ourselves.
    He who does not love his neighbour is a Murderer!

    Despite all prophecies, treaties, talks, preachings etc, Love is what will set us free from the current hostage situation, Love is what will cause God to answer all our prayers whether of Justice or Judgement – but they should be driven by Love.

    The Greatest Commands are: Love God and Love Your Neighbour as yourself. Jesus said “A new command I give you…..”

    Am sure You get my point!

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  • 174. Janet  |  January 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Brethren, the tide has changed. We are at a different time frame. Time to tighten our spiritual belts so that the Lord may restore us as the church and as a nation. Lets stop politicking and get serious in prayer. Here is a site taht gives some prophetic word concerning the time we live in.
    Be blessed.

    http://www.yesumulungi.com/Prophesy/Proph36.htm

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  • 175. baba tallis  |  January 15, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    god help us all.

    pray pray pray or we will be further divided

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  • 176. Don  |  January 15, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    As we continue praying let’s also get things in the right perspective. This will help I believe.
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    By Shashank Bengali, McClatchy Newspapers Mon Jan 14, 10:35 AM ET
    NAIROBI, Kenya — An exit poll carried out on behalf of a U.S. government-backed foundation indicated that Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki suffered a resounding defeat in last month’s disputed election, according to officials with knowledge of the document.
    The poll by the Washington -based International Republican Institute — not yet publicly released— further undermines Kibaki’s claims of a narrow re-election victory. The outcome has sparked protests and ethnically driven clashes nationwide, killing hundreds.
    Opposition leader Raila Odinga led Kibaki by roughly 8 percentage points in the poll, which surveyed voters as they left polling places during the election Dec. 27, according to one senior Western official who’s seen the data, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. That’s a sharp departure from the results that Kenyan election officials certified, which gave Kibaki a winning margin of 231,728 votes over Odinga, about 3 percentage points.
    U.S. and European observers have criticized the official results, which came after long, unexplained delays in counting the votes, primarily from Kibaki strongholds. Jendayi Frazer , the assistant secretary of state for African affairs, said over the weekend that there were “serious irregularities in the vote tallying, which made it impossible to determine with certainty the final result.”
    It wasn’t clear why the International Republican Institute — which has conducted opinion polls and observed elections in Kenya since 1992— isn’t releasing its data. A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Kenya confirmed that a poll was conducted but referred questions to the institute, where officials couldn’t be reached for comment.
    Kenyan activists called on U.S. officials to release any data that would shed light on election fraud.
    “People want justice and truth. Part of that can only be attained if there is an independent inquiry into the election results, and that will need independent sources like the exit poll,” said Dan Juma , the acting deputy director of the Kenya Human Rights Commission , a nongovernmental group.
    The senior Western official, who reviewed partial results of the poll, described them as credible. The survey included a sufficient sample of voters from around the country, and Odinga’s lead was comfortably outside the margin of error, the official said.
    “What it tells me is there was an exit poll that had one candidate with a significant lead who, at the end of the day, was not declared the victor. That seems to me to be a little surprising,” the official said.
    Before the election, there was a widespread perception among Kenyans that the Bush administration was backing the incumbent. In Kibaki’s five years in power, Kenya has grown into a reliable U.S. ally, sending troops to hunt for suspected terrorists along the border with Somalia and allowing American troops to use its bases for military operations.
    Human rights advocates charge that Kibaki has been too quick to adopt Bush administration policies. Last year Kenyan authorities secretly transferred more than 150 Muslim prisoners to war-torn Somalia in an echo of the so-called extraordinary renditions backed by U.S. officials for terrorism suspects in other parts of the world.
    “Clearly the United States’ Africa policy has been dominated by the issue of the war on terror and counterterrorism. And in that regard they have had a lot of cooperation from the Kibaki government,” said Maina Kiai , the chairman of another independent organization, the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights .
    In a statement over the weekend, Frazer, the Bush administration’s top diplomat for Africa , said: “We favored no side during the electoral contest. We supported efforts to carry out transparent and fair elections.”

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  • 177. magak  |  January 16, 2008 at 12:24 am

    praise the Lord ? I hope all is well with your soul,no matter what is taking place God has the final solution,Today in the cell meeting , God by His spirit was saying that we need to pray has the church , the garment of the church is defiled and that we are divided we need to repent with our whole heart , concerning the nation is that He is going to bring justice upon these nation ,pray aganist the spirt of mugiki God has given us power to bind and refuse t anything that is not according to the will of God ot to take palce ,church the only waepon we have is prayer let us raise up and pray for these land ,God shows us group of elder meeting together not for peace but to bring divison to the land ,God will bring justice to these land and peace will be seen in land let us pray for maina kai because the Lord has revealed that the goverment want him dead pliz cover him by the blood of jesus christ do God has remants Nation in Kenya can you please raise up and pray by repenting for these nation and the body of christ you are the voice of kenya you can bring change in these nation by prayers let us rebuild the wall of prayer in our nation ,family ,and the church pray that God may bring change in these nation l and pray

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  • 178. tendai  |  January 16, 2008 at 11:57 am

    maranatha… i second Janet ..the Yesu MULUNGI SITE has the truth from God’s word that tribulation is coming … this is about the 2nd coming of jesus christ …wars , nation against nation … let us run to Jesu that we may be found ready .. but times are going to get harder ..it will be the worst of times but the best of times for the church as the end time revival will fill the whole go to this site and read and listen to the mp3s http://www.yesumulungi.com/Prophesy/Proph36.htm

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  • 179. Jackie  |  January 16, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    i think yesterdays goings on in parliament showed even if you steal the going wont be easy. all the time the cameras were on Kibaki he was head bowed twiddling his thumbs. The guilty are afraid. Raila held his head high all through. Good luck to PNU and team but i dont see that coalition lasting to the end of the year. Yes even if it was a prophecy let us learn from it. He “won” yes but where is the sweetness? where are thanksgiving prayers from PNU? God is teaching all of us public lesson. let us learn and from Kibakis mistakes and not repeat.

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  • 180. jimbi  |  January 16, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    To the self approclaimed prophets Magak and Theodore.
    Am a born again Christian who respect and observes the teachings. The Bibles says by there wors you will know them. I have followed what you two guys and the likes have written. I really wonder how comes God is only speaking to you Theodore all evils about Kibaki and none about Raila? Few weeks before the elections Raila was spotted in the graves with Matjeke in SA and lost a lot of money to the wizards? How comes you are not telling us all that?
    Secondly we all saw what “Bishop” Wanjiru did to steal from Kamanda i.e. black magic? Is God telling you something about her?
    Finally there was this self approclaimed “bishop” Ambuka who even closed his church at Fedha estate for deceiving Christians. How comes he is now mummh?
    Lets all pray for peace and not people or i call them theologians cheating us! God has blessed me with a spirit of discernment. I would be greatful to meet both you. Please let me know your address of your respective churches.
    The bible says my people perish because of ignorance. Hey christians don’t ignore your vital tool i.e. prayers foe men ought to pray and not to faint!
    God bless Kenya. Peace

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  • 181. mkenya  |  January 16, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    To Anto,
    Please dont waste our time “cutting and pasting” huge documents here. If you must share, then just put a link to the source. Or you wanted the credit for it ?, some little honesty is good !

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  • 182. Lulizi  |  January 16, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Dear Jimbi, please do not boast about anything except that you understand God and that you know the Lord. You do not have the spirit of discernment because what you have said is not accurate; it is not from the throne room of God in heaven. You got the information from propaganda and from a newspaper cutting that was photocopied and superimposed. I also got the same on e-mail and our technology showed that the ‘newspaper’ was not original. I live in Johannesburg! We actually know what happened.

    Who spotted Raila in the graves in South Africa? A Kenyan? What was he doing in the graves himself? We have very many cemetaries in South Africa. One of them, in Soweto is so huge that you cannot cross it on foot; you must drive across it. So how did he know Raila and recognise him? How did he know Raila would come to that particular graveyard and to that particular section of the huge cemetary at that particular time and date? Let that person step forward and be counted! Please listen to the Spirit of God!

    What is the source of your information or rather who feeds your spirit? Newspapers, e-mail propaganda or is it really the Spirit of Christ that revealed this to you? Be honest and truthful in God’s sight and please confess!

    This is what has brought judgement upon us, Brethren! The spirit of lies. The politicians lied about each other and the Christians and the Church in Kenya cheered them up as they went from village to village assasinating each other’s character. God is not amused!’

    You must repent if you were a partaker in those dirty pronouncements that went through the air! So much rubbish and hatred, gossip, malice, course jokes and propaganda were released in the spirit realm over the land of Kenya and the atmosphere poisoned and this has attracted vicious demons. Those words grew wings and were implemented from the spirit into the physical realm.

    The spirit realm over Kenya needs cleansing so that prayers can penetrate and reach Jehovah. Are you part of this mission or you are still in the campaign mode.

    It is prayer time! Please do not take us back to Egypt! We now need a similar intensity of prayer from true Saints pronouncing healing, peace, holiness, grace, God’s power, victory, and blessing over the land. Start speaking good. Let us not talk about what happened. Let us prophesy to the dry bones so that we breath life into the land of Kenya again. God loves His people.

    I hope you will heed my call.

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  • 183. wycliffe  |  January 17, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Jimbi,The Grace of God has benn revealed to all men and it teaches us to say NO to all unrighteousness.Get filthiness,slander and gossip out of your spirit and begin to search the truth of God which can only be found through seeking God and not dweling on gossip.Arise and show the world the love of Jesus which God gave us through his son Jesus Christ.Hate,death and tribalism that fills our hearts have brought us to where we are in Kenya now.If you watched KTN news yesterday evening then you can know what am talking about.Get hate out of your spirit because that is only reserved for the spirit of God.

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  • 184. magak  |  January 17, 2008 at 9:57 am

    THANK YOU LULIZI I DONT HAVE TO ADD ANYTHING MORE ON THAT, AMEN! TO THAT AMEN TO THAT. ONE MORE THING JIMBI THE PROPHET WIL NOT MEET YOU DONT NEED TO MEET HIM BUT YOU NEED TO MEET THE LORD DONT BE INTERESTED IN MEETING MEN MEET THE LORD JIMBI ABOUT YOUR DICERNMENT DID YOU DICERN THAT JKIBAKI WOULD RIG THE ELECTIONS?
    LET UIS PRAY ALL OF US AGREE JIMBI WE ARE PRAYING AND THAT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED.

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  • 185. Nandi raider  |  January 17, 2008 at 11:46 am

    No kikuyu can subscribe to a prophesy by a luo. Kyuks see luos as wizards and we all know a kyuk cant c the kingdom of heaven

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  • 186. jimbi  |  January 17, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Woe unto you hypocrites and prophets of doom! Instead of preaching peace you subdue the Nation on rigging as if you were ECK Commissioners! It’s God who install leaders. Let put into test our God and pray if indeed He didn’t install Kibaki then He should remove him no matter what! THis should be our prayers and not siding due to our tribes. From your comments i can know which tribe you are in both magal and Lulizi! Jesus is calling us to live in peace as brothers keepers and not judges!
    By the way why don’t you join the Maina KIai group if at all you are sure of the rigging? You sound like ypu have enough evidence. Thats why muslims are far more dedicated to their teachings than we Christians who are spending better times in criticising than praying. The bible says that men ought to pray and not faint. It also says that we need to pray without ceasing. Thats is the only way that God will heal this Nation.
    Lilizi you didn’t understand me. I didn’t justify or even agree that Raila had gone to the graves of SA but i wanted the so called “Prophets” to elaborate. I as well don’t believe in it but i wanted to hear what the “prophets” will say.
    God bless Kenya! Lets all arise against the spirit of tribalism and pray for repentance on behalf of our brothers and sisters so that God will heal this Nation. God bless you ALL. Amen
    NB: THE REAL PROPHET OF GOOD SHOULD NOT BE TRIBAL AS WITNESSED BY HOW THE ABOVE PROPHETS ARE!

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  • 187. Lulizi  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Jimbi, if kibaki won by God’s hand, where is thanksgiving? Why did they hide the votes for 4 days? You can be sure the hand of man was involved. I have walked with God many years and for sure when God does something it will be magnificent as the Psalmist said, “this is the Lord’s doing and it is marvelous in our sight”. Is the Kenyan story marvelous in our sight?

    By the way, why are you judging me by my tribe? You do not know my tribe, or do you? Can your gift of discernment help you discen where I was born? You will be shocked to know where I come from. If you think I am a Luo or Kikuyu because of what I said, then your heart is tribal. You need cleansing from the precious blood of Jesus Christ. What I said has got nothing to do with which hospital I was born in. Stop seeing people from tribal lines. Repent! I belong to neither of the two tribes! Look at my name 10 times!

    For those of us who did not have our tribal chiefs contensting, whom did you expect us to vote for? So does voting for Kibaki make me a Kikuyu?

    Jimbi, I said earlier and I would like you to visit all my comments on this column, that you need to see Jesus! Ona Yesu! wachana na wanasiasa! You need Jesus more than you need Kibaki…..

    I just wanted you to stop and think about what you are innocently propagating. Please analyse what you write first before exposing your ignorance to the whole world.

    Be submitted to Christ at all times and do not try to use media reports and sense knowledge to challenge the Word of God!

    Ndugu Lulizi.

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  • 188. Lulizi  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    By the way, I am not a prophet and I do not claim to be. I am a very simple brother but blessed by God beyond measure. I have seen God working in my life.

    I know when God has blessed me and I can also differentiate and tell when it was just my human effort achieving success.

    I can confidently tell you that I have walked with God on a serious note for 25 years now since I was born again on the 21st of January 1983. I know God’s ways. I do not subscribe to cheap propaganda in the media.

    We are far from home but we are praying for Kenya! Our heartbeat is Kenyan and our hearts live in Kenya. Mimi ni Mkenya halisi and I do not subscribe to tribal politics either.

    Ndugu Lulizi.

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  • 189. Touched  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Is it funny how so many of you make it seem as though God didn’t have enough power to curb the post-election violence? to change the actual outcome of the elections? You all claim to believe in God, King of all Kings…. Have any of you posed for a minute and thought about Romans 13?
    LEADERSHIP IS NOT MAN ORDAINED…. ITS GOD GIVEN!!!!!!
    Did God not have his chosen people under the rule of pharaoh?
    Does God not himself in Hi Hold Word the Bible urge us not to be so quick to listen to anyone who come as a prophet proclaiming in His name?

    Romans 13
    Submission to the Authorities
    1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
    The fact is, Kibaki is the president, but urely has the bloodshed and destruction aand hatred that has brewed so violently worth it? Is not the same God whom all these prophet claim to have heard from state we seek him?
    Why not pray… stop with the accusations and blind listening to anyone who come carrying all orts of banners. The true prophet is indeed Christ Jesus, pure and holy!
    1Cor:3:18-
    Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a “fool” so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”[a]; 20and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”[b] 21So then, no more boasting about men!”

    Be different.
    ~Touched~

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  • 190. max  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Nandi raider i think you are so evil or a very bad joker dont you forget the power of the tongue remember to everyone God does not just listen to prayers he looks at the intent so if you pray just to satisfy your self interest God Might not answer your prayers. Seek Gods will just as the Lords prayer asks us to do. We should preach peace and practise it do actions as per our words in mount elgon during campaign period one politician had to cut short kisii tour to visit the area i dont know if it was genuine concern or vote hunting as he has not gone back again who is fooling who, we hear of the peoples president is there othe president that is of anothe species someone please

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  • 191. max  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Why are most clergies taking on tribal inclinings it is amazing and again remember that God prophesy is specific God does not lie

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  • 192. max  |  January 17, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Nandi whoever which kingdom are talking about the kyuks and any other person wouldnt want to go to yours as God and him only holds the key to that place and will choose who will enter depending on our actions, without bias or favor, your comment is unfortunate and unbecoming God forgive you, as you do not knwo what you are dong

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  • 193. jimbi  |  January 17, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Ndugu Lulizi, Am as well a simple christian. I can as well narrate to you the many things that God has done in my life. If you are waiting for President Kibaki to give a thanksgiving party so as to understand that it’s only God who install leaders, then you will have to keep on waiting. Our God that i pray does not work that way. Why did Jesus had to tell us that when we pray we need to go to a closet and close the door and the God that heareth in the secret answers in public?!
    Brother, I think you forgot what christians need to do in such a sutuation. They ONLY NEED prayers. We need to pray for one another and more so for this nation. We need to pray for those in authority as well.
    God is greater and above what we are facing! i didn’t say that you are of either of the tribe. But based on your writings i can tell which side you are. Don’t be ignorant. I don’t need to discern which hospital you were born in or at what time. God has not given that much but by what God has given me am able to discern the right spirit. The bible says, test ALL spirits and take that which is good.
    God bless Kenya. Peace shall be our portion in Jesus Name. AMEN

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  • 194. jimbi  |  January 17, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Send this message to Every Kenyan Everywhere:

    JANUARY 25TH 2008,

    DAY OF PRAYER FOR KENYA

    “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray, I will hear from heaven, I will hear and I will come and HEAL THEIR LAND.” God, 2 Chronicles 7:14

    On January 25th 2008, we are asking Every Kenyan, Everywhere to take time to make a concerted prayer for Kenya.

    We want EVERY Kenyan in EVERY CONTINENT on the face of the earth to be praying together on this one day on behalf of our country.

    How to participate:

    Spread the word:
    send this message to Every Kenyan you know, Everywhere – txt, SMS, e-mail, phone call

    On January 25th, make a point of setting aside time to pray for Kenya, it does not have to be a long time but it must be a deliberate effort to pray for specific things about Kenya
    You can pray individually, or get together with a friend or friends, workmates, someone on the street, your priest, pastor, congregation, youth group

    What to pray for:

    · AMANI, AMANI, AMANI. PEACE, PEACE, PEACE

    · Whatever else you feel in your heart to pray for concerning Kenya

    ‘Lord, make me an instrument of your peace; where there is hatred, let me sow love; when there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith;
    where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy.’ St Francis 1915

    ‘Maombi ya mtu mwenye haki yana nguvu na huleta matokeo.’

    Bible James 5:16

    If you have any questions/suggestions please send an e-mail to: AmaniKenyaMilele@hotmail.com

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  • 195. Lulizi  |  January 17, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Jimbi, why are you asking people to pray on the 25th of January? When I pray I do not pray to satisfy my ego or please my conscience to rid it of guilt. I pray for something to happen.

    Max, if Kibaki be God’s will, surely, then why are you asking us to pray? To pray so that God does what? I do not seem to understand you!

    The truth is that we are praying because something is wrong, and seriously wrong! do we agree? The something that went wrong was Kibaki. Period! If not what are we praying about?

    Jimbi, when Kibaki won in 2002 there was jubilation and thanksgiving. When he won in 2007 there was mourning and groaning…..

    Jimbi and Max please explain! What has changed?

    What has God really told you? We are desperate, looking for answers, please!

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  • 196. jimbi  |  January 17, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Lulizi you will realise the prayer call for 25th was not meant or addressed to you to all people of goodwill. To pray for peace or not pray is up to you. No one will whip you for not praying. You better read it well. Also you should know if at all you read it that the mail was not initially drafted by me. I only forwarded to believers!
    Secondly i have NOT said that there is anything that God has told me. I wonder why you are too pessimistic and overlooking the power of God while you still claim a born again, holy spirit filled nad heavenly bound christian!!
    Read the bible and you will understand.
    God bless Kenya. Peace

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  • 197. Janet  |  January 17, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    There is no peace from God without repentance as a nation. Until we are open and truthful about our situation, we will be making cosmetic prayers. The world can think like that but not us believers who trully seek God on behalf of Kenya. The problem we have right now is that a section of the believers think that God rigged elections for His chosen President. Which God are we talking about? Is it the one who says that Let all men be liers but God remains true? I doubt it.
    All of us want peace but we also want truth and justice to be done. We want a nation where all tribes feel they belong. Above all we want a church that is the light and salt of the earth as Jesus said it should be. Until we can be honest as christians and repent on behalf of this nation for all our sins, I think we are in big trouble as a country. A people that glorify theft and think it is God´s will….. I don´t think that is godly.

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  • 198. ONCHIRI  |  January 17, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    KEEP PRAYING AND GOD WILL GIVE U AN ANSWER. PLEASE LET US PROTEST AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY AND THE LIVE SHOOTING OF KENYAN CHILDREN AS WE SAW ON TV.

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  • 199. Lulizi  |  January 17, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    1. How can God give the majority seats in parliament to the losing team? Please let us be serious! Love does not delight in evil but rejoices witht the truth as stated in the book of 1 Corithians 13:6. If you have love in your heart you cannot condone what Kibaki has done by stealing and authorising the killing of innocent people.

    2. If I were Kibaki I would have called for new elections immediately. The new speaker of parliament was voted in three rounds and he emerged the winner in all of them. That is God! He will make you win and win and win again. Tell Kibaki to do the same. If he is popular as he thinks, let him call for a re-run and we will see if God really ordained him to be president 2007-2012! What is he afraid of? If he won he will still win, clean.

    3. Touched, I am very disturbed by the comments like “the fact is, Kibaki is president”! If Kivuitu himself, the Chairman of the ECK has disown Kibaki’s victory time and again, who are we to keep on defending a flawed exercise.

    4. Let us be true at heart and acknowledge that a mistake was made. Then when we pray God will hear our prayers. But for as long as we refuse to accept our mistakes we cannot prosper! Proverbs 28:13 says that “He that covers his transgressions shall not prosper: But he who so confesses and forsakes them shall obtain mercy.”

    5. Let us stick to the deal: if we confess we will obtain mercy but if we refuse to acknowledge that there is a serious problem in Kenya today, then we will not prosper. You will be denied a promotion, your business will fail, your children will fail exams, etc. However, we surely need this mercy and therefore we confess than PNU rigged the elections by refusing to submit the poll returns with the required 72 hours as required by the Kenyan constitution.

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  • 200. Don  |  January 17, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    It is amazing how we can be asked to pray for peace yet what Kenya needs are repentance prayers. Before the 28th of December 2007 Kenya was quite peaceful but after that day all hell broke loose. What happened?? We are a people who have turned our backs on God – as one can clearly tell from some of the postings here. 2 Chr 7:14 is quite clear that if we who are called by the Name of the Lord will humble ourselves and pray and turn from our wicked ways THEN AND ONLY THEN will God hear our prayers, forgive our sins and heal our land. Kenya needs healing now and that will only come when we wholeheartedly turn to the the Lord – we His children not any one else. So brethen it is my humble appeal that we need to sincerely repent as God’s children because the church in Kenya has turned it’s back on God but the leader’s seem to be completely oblivious of that and that is why they seem to be calling people to pray the wrong prayers. Read Dan 9: 4-19 and see the kind of prayer we need to be bringing before the Lord at this time.

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  • 201. max  |  January 17, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    the problems we have should not be solved by bias any demo that involves burning of a church is profane and borders blasphemy these are the acts that we should be condeming what is rigging into comparison to killings, (not that rigging is good) are there tribes which when they die is ok lets face it brethren burning of towns and homes is devlish killings and lootings are works of the devil, these acts perfectly describes satan ‘for he came to steal destroy and kill’ any objections

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  • 202. max  |  January 17, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Lulizi do only pray when there is a problem? we always pray so that the enemy do not get us napping. Lemmi ask you actually educate you that Gods ways and wokings are not mans who told you what you want or actually whoever you wanted to be president is Gods will? we pretend to think that we know what Gods will is without seeking his face first if you go to prayer with a predetermined mind that you know what will is you will never succeed, it seems that you have already decided what Gods will is and you want to force it out God does not work that way, i am not saying that Raila is bad while Kibaki is good, either way everything works for the good of Gods ill. God can even give you a bad president to punish your wicked ways so that you can turn to him if you read the scriptures there lies all the answers when the Israel sinned and turned against God they were taken into captivity when they returned to God they were given a good King they prospered and forgot their God and the cycle continued. It does not rest there god can save you from a bad King just like he did with Saul and gave David the mantle so be wise seek God. At the end of the day Gods will prevails remember also Moses he did well to take the Israelites through the wilderness but he only saw canaan but did not reach there are you still there

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  • 203. Johnie  |  January 17, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    You are right max Raila when he was at Jiam he likened himself to Moses does this tell you something

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  • 204. wycliffe  |  January 18, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Johnie and max,jimbi,the blood of Jesus is free because it has been paid for.What are you two waiting for pretending that you are Christians when we can all see the conditions of your hearts through your sentiments here?You can try to cheat us but you will never cheat God because He sees you and knows you deep.Come out of your lukewarmnes and go to God in sincerety and ask him to save you.We all know now that you are on kibakis’s side.that is the problem because the christians who took sides and were in the payroll of politicians brought us to where we are now.This is because they refused to recognize the God who called them so as to stand in intercession for the country but instead joined them in their dirty bussiness thereby bringing the wrath of God upon this nation.Seek the Lord and stop exalting any human being because God cannot share his glory with any man.Do not try and justify your ways or what you think is right in this blog for only God knows what is right.The blood of Jesus will never loose its power so long as you go to God in prayer with sincerety,he will here you and save you if you ask him to do so.Pls stop this arguements,they will not make anything right at this hour.

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  • 205. jimbi  |  January 18, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Bravo Max. I 100% agree with you.
    May God bless you. Gob bless Kenya. Peace

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  • 206. nip  |  January 18, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    If whatever is happening to us in Kenya is about God’s judgement, The only thing to do is to repent and not to blame each other. No christian should be debating who is right or wrong. The only time God turns His wrath away from people is when we repent. Again, somebody commented that Kibaki arm twisted God. That is a joke! How can the created arm twist His creator. I am not syaing he is rightfully there, all I am saying is we should be seeking God to fulfill His prophesies of Kenya being a springboard for revival. This can only happen when there is peace.
    Lets cry for God’s mercies. The bible says that His mercies rejoices over judgement.

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  • 207. Maan  |  January 18, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Whatever You Do This Trying Period,Do Not Spread Hatred.

    When I lived in Kibera some years ago, I shared my modest crib with Onyango, Kimani, Kipngeno, Mutisya and Abdi. Abdi and Kimani shared a bed because Abdi was new to the city and was hiding from authorities since he had no legal papers. The only thing that separated our bedrooms was a leso and old dirty bed sheet that Mutisya had picked on his way from industrial area.

    We shared everything and we showered in shifts and on alternate Sundays. Life was hard but we were happy. Kimani pushed mkoko at Marigiti and in the evening he would come home with a mixture of almost everything that was sold at the market. From it, we made a stew. Everyday it tasted distinctly different and authentic even though the ingredients remained the same, the quantity varied. Sometimes the pilipili or dania would be in plenty hence the taste of the day. We listened to Kameme,kass and KBC salamu za hodi together and shared ushindi bar soap for washing and geisha for bathing. We played draught at weekends.

    In short we were more than brothers, and we remained so for 5 years until the elections were called. It was time to part ways. We got new identities jaluo, msapere, mkale, mkamba, walalo and banye. Identifying ourselves with the rich politicians we shared a language with was the thing, not the poor we had been with for years.

    The wealthy man from my tribe won the election I headed to the same room I had shared for five years with people of my class, albeit with some election posters to deco our crib. Mheshimiwa headed for Grand Regency to celebrate. That night we slept without food. After a while things came back to normal we were back to sharing everything with Abdi, Kamau, Mutisya, Onyango etc. Whenever there was bereavement amongst us, we all attended. Just the poor people. Mheshimiwa was busy on the beach. But when mheshimiwa got bereaved I mourned for him for weeks, even though I would’nt be let to go past his gate. When he engaged in Corruption, I defended him fiercely just because he spoke my Language. To cut short, I voted for mheshimiwa, he lives big but life for me, Onyango, Kimani, Abdi is still the same. What if we had voted for one of us regardless of his tribe! could life be different????? Identify with your own true tribe.

    RICH or POOR are the real tribes of Kenya . However the latter are the majority and are ruled by the minority. Did you know the only common thing between you and your much-cherished Mheshimiwa is the language. Nothing else, NOTHING.
    But the list of common things you share with Mutisya, Onyango, Abdi is endless.

    THINK AND EDUCATE OTHERS.
    DOTHE RIGHT THINGBY STOPING THEVIOLENCE FROM YOUROWN VILLAGE.
    STILL ProudlyKenyan

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  • 208. magak  |  January 18, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    JUSTICE JUSTICE JUSTICE, JUSTIFICATION THE WORD JUSTIFICATION IS WHERE WE GET THAT WORD JUSTICE HOW CAN WE HAVE PEACE IF WE ARE NOT JUSTIFIED YOU GET SAVED FIRST THE BLOOD OF JESUS CLEANS YOU THEN YOU ARE JUSTIFIED THEN AFTER JUSTIFICATION THE PRINCE OF PEACE ENTERS INTO YOUR HEART, THEN WE CAN HAVE THE PEACE THAT SURPASSES UNDERSTANDING, THAT IS PROPHET THEODORES TEACHING IQUOTED.
    WHAT DO I WANT TO SAY BASED ON THESE WORDS IF WE WANT PEACE THE ONLY WAY IS REPENTANCE JUSTIFICATION RESTITUTION THEN PEACE WILL COME, AFTER YOU GET SAVED IF YOU STOLE SOMEONES TV, YOU MUST RETURN IT TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A REGENERATED HEART,KIBAKI MUST DESTITUTE WHAT HE STOLE,THE REASON WHY HE CANNOT DO IT IS BECAUSE HE IS NOT BORN AGAIN HE IS NOT JUSTIFIED THEN HOW CAN HE UNDERSTAND JUSTICE, HIS PASTOR IS ALSO LUKEWARM IF HIS PASTOR OR PRIEST COULD HAVE KNOWN GOD AND HE KNEW THE AUTHORITY OF HIS PASTOR OR PRIEST WHOM HE IS SUBMITTED TO THEN HE COULD HAVE ALREADY HEEDED THE CALL TO STEP DOWN, THERE HAS TOP BE ARE RUN OF THE ELECTIONS THEN ONLY WILL PEOPLE BE SATISFIED WITH WHOEVER WILL WIN THIS TIME AROUND THE INTERNATIONAL BODIES TO OVERSEE THE ELECTION, THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW IF YOU GO TO PREACH THE GOSPEL NAYWHERE WHERE WHERE YOU ARE NOT FROM THAT TRIBE, THE MOMENTB YOU MENTION YOUR NAME THE PEOPLE WILL IDENTIFY YOU WITH THE POLITICIANS,MOST DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT JESUS THEY WANT THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE JESUS AND THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE WANTS NOTHING NOW BUT RE ELECTION,HOW COME SOME IN THE CHURCH ARE PRAYING FOR RAILA, WHILE SOME ARE PRAYING FOR KIBAKI, THE CHURCH IS DIVIDED WE HAVE DIVIDED CHRIST AND REMEMBER HE SAID A DOUBLE MINDED MAN CAN GET NOTHING FROM HIM, THE CHURCH HAS THE SOLUTION BUT BUT THE CHURCH IS DEAD, DEAD AS A DODO, IN THE OLD DAYS THEY USE TO LISTEN TO THE CHURCH PRESIDENTS LISTENED TO THE CHURCH FOR ADVICE RELIGIOUS LEADERS WERE RESPECTED WELL NOW THEY ARE KNOWN FOR SCANDALS AND STEALING GODS MONEY AND HAVING TEA AT STATE HOUSE WITH NO APPETITE FOR PRAYERS THE PROPHET CALLS THEM MUTE DOGS THAT CANT BARK,
    IT WAS REQUIRED THAT IF JUSTICE WAS TO BE DONE THE BLOOD HAD TO BE SHED ACCORDING TO HEBREW 9, NOT THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT KENYANS BUT THE BLOOD WAS SHED 2000YRS AGO ONCE AND FOR ALL BY THE LORD JESUS, NO ONE HAS TO SHED BLOOD NOW,SO DO WE WANT PEACE, THEN THE PRINCE OF PEACE MUST BE IN OUR MIDS, THE PRINCE OF PEACE IS JESUS, FOR HIM TO BE IN OUR MIDS WE MUST REPENT, REPENT AND TURN TO GOD AND GET SAVED THAT IS CALLED JUSTIFICATION,HAS SOMEONE EVER ROBBED YOU IN BLACK AND WHITE, THEY TOOK WHAT RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO YOU, WHAT CAN YOU DO, MOST OF YOU WHO ARE PROFFERING CHRISTIANS WILL TAKE HIM TO COURT AND SUE HIM, NONE OF YOU WILL OBEY THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GIVE HIM YOUR TUNIC TOO,
    LISTEN TO ME CHRISTIANS ARGUING CHRISTIANS,LUKEWARM CHRISTIANS AND WARM CHRISTIANS AND HOT CHRISTIANS, AND COLD CHRISTIANS, THE SOLUTION IS WITH THE CHURCH BUT THE CHURCH IS DIVIDED, THE SOLUTION IS REPENTANCE JUSTIFICATION, RESTITUTION,AND THEN PEACE WILL COME,LET THE CHURCH HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS SAYS TO THE CHURCH REVELATION 2:11
    KENYA NEEDS PEACE BUT KENYA NEEDS JUSTICE FIRST READ YOUR BIBLES YOU ANTI- BEREANS, BEFORE PEACE COMES THERE IS JUSTICE FIRST JUSTIFICATION THERE IS NOE OF YOU THAT WAS HAVING THE PEACE THAT SURPASS UNDERSTANDING BEFORE YOU WERE JUSTIFIED.
    PRAY YOU PRAYER LESS NATION,PRAY YOU LUKEWARM BRIDE OF CHRIST, IF YOU HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH YOUR KNEES THEN USE IT UNLESS DOCTORS HAVE ADVISED OTHERWISE,DON’T WEAR US WITH STUPID ARTICLES THAT DO NOT TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS THROUGH PRAYER,WHICH PART OF IF DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND, IF MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY STEP ONE, THEN TURN AWAY FROM STEALING VOTES AND KILLING PEOPLE,,STEP 2, THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN FORGIVE THEM JUSTICE, THEN HE HEALS THE LAND HAKUNA NJ IA INGINE WAKEN YA,REPENTANCE ONLY FROM THE HEART.
    CALL FOR DIRECTION TO HEAR PROPHET THEODORE TEACH ABOUT THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE NATION
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  • 209. Maan  |  January 18, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Magak. We have prayed, and we continue to pray. At the same time we preach peace, as God has declared there shall be peace in Kenya. Follow the link for word of God from apostle Harry Das.
    http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=bf5c29b5544c7738e87a
    God bless.

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  • 210. Lulizi  |  January 18, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    When people are warned they are so full of their little ideas and so wrapped up in their little worlds that destruction hits them when they least expected it. Can you recall this article 4 years ago? You can call Mutahi Ngunyi a false prophet or a prophet of doom!

    Sunday Nation, Dec 2003

    Why our second liberation is yet to be completed

    By MUTAHI NGUNYI

    This week I want to give a suggestion to President Mwai Kibaki: He should fire his speechwriter! If we lived in a ”banana republic,” these people would have actually been charged with sabotage.

    What they gave the President to read on Jamhuri Day was flat and shoddy. In fact, his speech on this day sounded like recycled material from the Madaraka Day and Kenyatta Day addresses. And what is worrying is that his speechwriters did not even seem to notice the repetitions.

    The question we should ask here is why?

    The answer to this is simple: Maybe they also slept through the speeches! The long and short of things is therefore that someone is being negligent.

    Let us now turn to the fact that the President has finally put his portrait on our currency. In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, there would be nothing wrong if he put a family portrait on one of the currency notes.

    What we must understand here is that President Kibaki is a human being. He has urges and excesses. To deny him some things is therefore ridiculous. It is like placing a pot full of honey in front of a little boy and expecting him not to dip his finger into the stuff! In other words, our new President is cuddling in the warmth and comfort of the institutions that shaped former President Daniel arap Moi. And, if this is the case, why should we be surprised if he ”hatched” into a dictator?

    What we have witnessed in the last one year is the degeneration of President Kibaki from a reformer to a ”Toad King”. This process begins with the President becoming insensitive. At this point, he breaks one pledge after another without feeling a thing. And, as he does this, the question in his mind is: Where can you take me?

    In the case of the MoU for instance, we took him nowhere. The begrudged politicians yapped until the cows came home. Now the President has put his portrait on our currency and we will take him nowhere. The general attitude here is this: If you do not like it, you can sit on a pin! Numbing his sense to popular voices will definitely degenerate into a state of paranoia.

    At this point, the President will make one blunder after another. And instead of correcting his mistakes, he will increase his speed in the direction of the wrong. This is where former President Moi was when he introduced ”Project Uhuru” to the country. The crowds booed him, his loyal followers in Kanu abandoned him and even his own people questioned his wisdom. But the more we rejected his ”project”, the more determined he became.

    There is a lesson for President Kibaki here. He is increasingly becoming like Mr Moi during the 2002 elections. He is not yet paranoid, but his insensitivity could develop into ”political blindness”. Who knows how low he will have sunk by the 2007 elections? And this is what worries me.

    Consider a hypothetical situation here. What would happen if President Kibaki decided to run for re-election in 2007 and lost? Would he and his men have the grace to hand over power peacefully?

    From the way they have behaved in the last one year, I doubt it. And where would that leave the country? At the risk of sounding crazy, I want to suggest the following: If we thought that Mr. Moi would plunge the country into civil strife, he proved us wrong. Narc is the party to plunge the country into civil strife. You just have to listen to the FM stations and the call-in television programmes to see a pattern. From the name of the caller, you can almost predict what they will say and what side of the divide they will take.

    In a disputed election, such polarity would certainly take ugly proportions. But there are two possible ways out of this. The first one has to do with the agenda of the second liberation. This process was meant to achieve two things – to remove Mr. Moi from power and replace him with reform-minded leaders. This was done successfully. However, as we are beginning to realise, Mr. Moi was not the problem.

    The problem was the institutions he inherited from the Kenyatta. To change the leadership without changing the institutions is like treating cancer with Malaraquin. This is partly why the ”institutional cancer” in the presidency is beginning to affect President Kibaki.

    Putting his portrait on our currency and junking the pre-election MoU are just manifestations of this cancer. This is why the other agenda of the second liberation was institutional reforms. Until this is completed, the second liberation will not have happened.

    More specifically, this refers to the constitutional review process. And, at this point I would want to address the delegates preparing for Bomas III on January 12, 2004.

    It is my hope that you have had time to reflect on the issues at hand in Bomas III. We are also told that the politicians have spent this long break to bribe you. In my view you should take the bribes and use the money to enjoy your Christmas. You must realise at this point that you are involved in politics and that in this game there is no morality. As such, you should have fun on someone else’s account! However, when it comes to voting, you must reject the ”bribe givers” and vote for the country.

    This is important because of the following reasons. If the second liberation had two phases, the first phase of replacing the leadership had to be carried out by 3.1 million voters. Replacing Mr. Moi and his cronies was in my view the easy part. The second phase is the tough one. And this is where you come in. You are only 600 people, and the future of our country depends on you.

    I have two questions for you at this point. One, as you vote for issues, will you be thinking of your ”tribal chief” or your children? In my view, your tribe is your children. If you make a constitution for your children, you will have made a constitution for Kenya.

    Two, consider the question of the Prime Minister’s post. And the question to you is this: If this post had been created before the 2002 elections, do you think President Kibaki would have ”trashed” the MoU? Do you think he would have put his portrait on our currency and retained corrupt ministers in his Cabinet? If the answer to these questions is no, then the cure to the ”institutional cancer” in the presidency is the creation of this post. Do think about it!

    The second possible way out of civil strife has to do with the Kikuyu. Now that the presidency has returned to the ”House of Mumbi”, some people from the community are convinced that it is there to stay. In my view, this kind of thinking is etrogressive
    and could result in ethnic animosity.Kikuyus should come to terms with the possibility that they could lose the presidency in 2007. As such, they should do two things: One, ”bank” with the other communities. This is important because they cannot survive alone in future. Two, they should disown the Kikuyu ”sharks” in the Kibaki government.

    Unless they do so, the entire community will be blacklisted simply on account of a few people. In future, a Kikuyu presidential candidate would be rejected because of the misdeeds of isolated people. My submission therefore is: They should not support this regime blindly!

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  • 211. Lulizi  |  January 18, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    Maan, you say you have prayed but listen to this!

    Isa 58:1-9
    (1) Cry aloud, don’t spare, lift up your voice like a trumpet, and declare to my people their disobedience, and to the house of Jacob (church in Kenya) their sins.

    (2) Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways: as a nation that did righteousness, and didn’t forsake the ordinance of their God, they ask of me righteous judgments; they delight to draw near to God.

    (3) Why have we fasted, say they, and you don’t see? why have we afflicted our soul, and you take no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast you find your own pleasure, and exact all your labors.

    (4) Behold, you fast for strife and contention, and to strike with the fist of wickedness: you don’t fast this day so as to make your voice to be heard on high.

    (5) Is such the fast that I have chosen? the day for a man to afflict his soul? Is it to bow down his head as a rush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? will you call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord?

    (6) Isn’t this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that you break every yoke?

    (7) Isn’t it to deal your bread to the hungry, and that you bring the poor who are cast out to your house? when you see the naked, that you cover him; and that you not hide yourself from your own flesh?

    (8) Then shall your light break forth as the morning, and your healing shall spring forth speedily; and your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of Yahweh shall by your rearward.

    (9) Then shall you call, and the Lord will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, Here I am. If you take away from the midst of you the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly.

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  • 212. Lulizi  |  January 18, 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Again listen to this, Jimbi, you who challanged me to read my Bible! By the way I have read the Bible from cover to cover if you did not know!!

    Isa 59:1-16
    (1) Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it can’t save; neither his ear heavy, that it can’t hear:

    (2) but your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

    (3) For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue mutters wickedness.

    (4) None sues in righteousness, and none pleads in truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

    (6) …….. their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.

    (7) Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; desolation and destruction are in their paths.

    (8) The way of peace they don’t know; and there is no justice in their goings: they have made them crooked paths; whoever goes therein does not know peace.

    (9) Therefore is justice far from us, neither does righteousness overtake us: we look for light, but, behold, darkness; for brightness, but we walk in obscurity.

    (10) We grope for the wall like the blind; yes, we grope as those who have no eyes: we stumble at noonday as in the twilight; among those who are lusty we are as dead men.

    (11) We roar all like bears, and moan sore like doves: we look for justice, but there is none; for salvation, but it is far off from us.

    (12) For our transgressions are multiplied before you, and our sins testify against us; for our transgressions are with us, and as for our iniquities, we know them:

    (13) transgressing and denying the Lord, and turning away from following our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.

    (14) Justice is turned away backward, and righteousness stands afar off; for truth is fallen in the street, and uprightness can’t enter.

    (15) Yes, truth is lacking; and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey. the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no justice.

    (16) He saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his own arm brought salvation to him; and his righteousness, it upheld him.

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  • 213. Bena  |  January 19, 2008 at 10:07 am

    As we call for justice and justification. Let also not be blind and only one sided. Yes, re-election could have been the only way possible to bring justice in Kenya. But now is not. This is because, if called the re-election is called today, 3, 6 or 12 months to come, it is already biased, and indirectly rigged. Reasons:

    Chaos that erupt in the country were not a mistake. It was calculated move, to burn, destroy all the voters card, ID cards and any documents of those people who voted for Kibaki. This was a way to make sure, if a election is called in 3 months these people are blocked out of election.

    Secondly, were chaos aimed at instilling fear. This means that, those who had voted for Kibaki in riftvalley, Western, Kisumu will not have confidence to vote again. They will fear the outcome and what will happen to them if either side losses.

    Thirdly, more than 500, 000 have been displaced. This tells us about this number will not particpate again in another election if it were called today. This is because they are not in their respective voting stations.

    If we are praying for justice, another election is not justice. Recount remain the only unbiased option. Lives have been lost. Fear has been instilled. No freedom to vote for whoever one wishes, as the community holds your destiny after the election.

    As we continue to pray, let keep our spiritual eyes open, so that our desires may not takes away from the living God and his ways.

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  • 214. George  |  January 19, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    In 1Kings chapter one:
    There were two camps of kingship. One Adonija’s and the other Solomon’s. Put in mind Adonija had stolen the hearts of Israel, and every one was looking on him to be the king while on the other side Solomon had a few people. The wave can be very strong, but the Lord is not within that wave, remember both sides had prophets who were prophesying to their leaders favourably.

    Adonija’s camp had Abiather and had anointed him as the king. God met them when they were sacrificing to Him. And filled their hearts with fear because they were not his choice. When they heard Solomon anointed king, God moved on Solomon’s side and raised him.
    So it will be in Kenya, the camp which the Lord Jesus Christ is will rise, and the other will fall.

    Kenyans, rise up in prayer that the Lord can intercede for us and we will build the nation in unity.

    God bless you.

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  • 215. Don  |  January 19, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Bena don’t speak for others. What makes you think they will not vote if another election is called and what makes you think that voters cards for all the 500,000 were burnt. Where’s your faith? You don’t believe that God can bring peace and cause every displaced person to be restored to where they were before the 30th of Dec? The God we worship is a Great and Mighty God and He can do even what man thinks is impossible. So don’t speak in haste brother. You don’t know what God is going to do. In your last sentence you contradict yourself. You say “…let’s keep our spiritual eyes open, so that our desires may not take away??? from the living God and His ways” but in the same breath you have already said that you do not think a rerun is a solution. In that thought your desire is implicit – which is that what God would want is a recounting of the votes and nothing else. How do you know? Remember the Lord says His ways are not our ways and nor are our thoughts His thoughts.

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  • 216. ANN  |  January 19, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    This is the prophecy by Dr.OWOUR

    When God sent me to Kenya, He specifically asked me to address the Church. There is immense sexual immorality in the Church, involving bishops, pastors, worship leaders and members of the congregation. There’s much love for money and wealth in the Church, with an increase in the panda mbegu gospel. Church leaders have bared their love for the trappings of this world by immersing themselves into the country’s politics. The Lord spoke to me on February 10th, 2007, saying very clearly that there is going to be a massive earthquake in Nairobi. The Church has detoured from God’s will; the turn is Satanic, not for Christ. The Church in Kenya was at the forefront in fighting the message of repentance in the 2 years I was here; it even used its contacts and networks to block the country’s leadership from repentance. A massive earthquake is going to hit Nairobi as a consequence of that. New Orleans fell because of sexual immorality, witchcraft from Haiti, etc. God is going to plough through this city, including such areas as the University of Nairobi. I can see 3 military helicopters flying to the rescue of injured people in the city; I see people digging through rubble for loved ones, as was the case along Ronald Ngala Street a while back. The altar of the Lord has been defiled. The Church in the country has served and worshipped another god, especially the Church in Nairobi. Bishops and pastors here have loved money more than they have loved Jesus. Rwanda was warned about such things too before tragedy befell it. The God of the Bible is holy and has a zero tolerance for sin. Defilement of the altar has angered God; it has riled up Him. Your economy will be destroyed. Your public health sector will be affected too. The smell of death is here. Fear Him and return to Him. Stop this panda hapa, upate hapa gospels without holiness. The Church in this country has no moral authority to lead; it has become completely irrelevant. The Church is the light of the world, but it has brought darkness to this country. This is an approved judgment from the Lord – on the land that bears the name of Kenya. He who keeps your city will not keep it anymore. The earthquake is going to happen very soon. Animal sicknesses and illnesses will increase – including TB – so as to catch your attention and need for the Lord. You are a country that loves meat. Those who rely on livestock for livelihood will also have to think about God. There are false prophets in this country. There is gravity to every word I’m speaking today. Ye that wander around in this city – you need holiness; you’ve failed to be a role model. Kenya is a nation so much in need of direction from the Lord. Your bishops love sex, money, business, etc. Some have abandoned ministry of the gospel for politics: Which is the greater calling? In the process of leading this nation and Church to repentance, greatest opposition has come from Church leaders. Some of your buildings will be destroyed. Lots of prostitution going on all over Nairobi. We are ripe for judgment now. There’s much murder in this country. You can be killed for anything. Pastors and bishops are busy building their own empires, not God’s Kingdom. The earthquake will impact on your economy, civil structure, etc. You will have to repent, – matters less whether it will come before or after the quake. Only God has preserved this country and made it great. Refugees from all over Africa flock here. Kenya was an island of peace in a sea of turbulence. Kenya has abused the protection and custodianship God had bestowed upon it.

    The Lord is coming back, where you like it or not. Since many bishops and pastors are defiled, God is going to raise up a new leadership for His Church. Religious parties – This is not the way of the Lord to raise leadership for a nation. Repentance is the only way for us to be in the will of God. Rift Valley Fever – The Lord is taking away meat from your tables for you to return to Him. Those who rear livestock will have to return to Him. Anglican and Catholic proposed merger – This is apostasy. It is a falling away from the faith. This message of repentance has not been very popular with bishops and pastors because it touches on their personal empires. It will be folly to dismiss what I am saying today. Clergymen should lead this country back to God. The quake will come because repentance hasn’t been one as He expected, and also to prove that indeed He had sent me. I have been here for two years now; He is calling me to move on to India now
    ALL OF YOU SHOULD REALIZE THAT KENYA IS UNDER JUDGMENT RIGHT NOW FROM JEHOVA HIMSELF. WHEN JUDGMENT COMES GOD CAN USE ANYTHING EVEN YOUR OWN MOTHER. FORGET ABOUT RAILA, KIBAKI AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED AS A WHOLE COZ NOTHING HAS HAPPENED WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF JEHOVA. KENYANS WERE COMMANDED TO REPENT THE NINEVEH WAY AND THAT IS THE ONLY REMEDY NOW. THE REST GOD WILL FIX WHERE THINGS HAVE GONE WRONG. CAN YOU BE HUMBLE TO PRAY FOR GOD TO OPEN A WAY FOR KENYANS TO HOLD A NATIONAL REPENTANCE NOW. CAN WE PRAY THAT THE CHURCH HERSELF CAN COME OUT AND TELL THE NATION THAT WE HAVE MESSED UP WITH JEHOVAH AND WE NEED TO GO BACK TO HIM IN REPENTANCE. THAT IS ALL HE EVER WANTED FROM US. WHERE IS THE CHURCH??? ME AND YOU????? THE PASTORS, THE BISHOPS , NAME THEM THE BIG BIG TITLES. I AGREE WITH ONE WHO SAID IT IS NOT TIME TO PRAY. IT IS TIME TO REPENT. PRAYER AND REPENTANCE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THE CHURCH SHOULD OWN UP NOW EVEN TO THE GOVERNMENT AND TO THE OTHER RELIGIONS AND ASK FOR GOD TO FORGIVE. PERSONALLY WHEN I SEE BLOOD SHED I HAVE MYSELF TO BLAME AND I FEEL GUILTY BEFORE GOD. IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE THIS STOP . YES THER IS REPENTANCE. HOW SHALL WE THEN COME TOGETHER AS ACHURCH AND REPENT. WHO IS GOING TO BE THE JONAH, OR THE MOSES OR THE jOHN THE BAPTIST. DR OWUOR WAS THERE WE , THE CHURCH REJECTED HIM .WHAT NEXT MY FRIENDS .LET US ASK GOD FOR ANOTHER CHANCE WITH HIS SERVANT. IF GOD SENDS HIM BACK, WILL YOU BE THERE TO REPENT AS A NATION AMA YOU SHALL SAY HE IS NOT FROM YOUR TRIBE????????

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  • 217. MAGAK  |  January 20, 2008 at 9:29 am

    ANNE THANK YOU FOR THIS, REPENTANCE IS WHAT IS NEEDED,PROPHET OWUOR HAS CONFIRMED A LOT OF THINGS THAT OTHER PROPHETS HAVE SAID TOO,HE IS A PROPHET OF GOD, BUT NOT THE ONLY ONE HERE IN KENYA THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROPHETS IN KENYA NOT KNOWN AND WHO DO NOT WANT TO BE MEDIA SHOWCASE, THEY WANT TO BE KNOWN BY THE LORD NOT MEN,IAM NOT SAYING PROPHET OWUOR WANTS TO BE KNOWN HE IS VERY DIFERENT AND ATRUE PROPHET., WE NEED TO REPENT ALSO WAS TALKING WITH A PASTOR FRIEND WHO TALKED WITH US LAST WEEK AND REQUESTED IF WE WOULD WANT TO BE APART OF REPENTANCE MEETING TO BE HELD BY PROPHET OWUORS MINISTRY, AND WE ARE APART OF THAT PLANNING NOW YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT,
    THE MOST IMPORTANCE REPENTANCE IS ONE FROM AN INDIVIDUAL FIRST, BEFORE THEY COME FOR MASSIVE REPENTANCE WHERE PEOPLE HIDE IN THE CROWDS AND PRETEND TO REPENT LET THEM REPENT FIRST ON THEIR OWN AND GET THEIR HEART RIGHT, THEN LET THEM COME COOPERATELY TO DO IT,AND THIS TIME AROUND JUST LIKE THE PROPHET SAID LET THEM COME WITH SACKCLOTHS AND CRY BEFORE THE LORD. AND SHOW HUMILITY REPENT KENYA REPENT KENYA DONT WAIT ON OWUOR REPENT NOW WHEN HE GETS HERE LET HIM FIND PEOPLE READY TO REPENT FOR THE NATION,ALSO LET HIM WORK WITH OTHERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM LET HIM NOT WANT TO DO THINGS ALONE WE NEED UNITY NOW FOR PEOPLE TO LISTRN TO US AS THE CHURCH

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  • 218. Bena  |  January 20, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    I have read all these comments. But there is one thing I fail to understand. Is God judging the church, or is the devil at work in Kenya. Why I ask this, if God is judging Kenya why is he allowing death of innocent people, and he is leaving the pastors who engage in sexual activity, robbery, false prophets..among others.
    Why has God choosen Kenya, among all other nations in the world still preaching the same message. Why is he biased towards one community, and leaving the others? Why is he only dealing with the poor and not the rich? Why is he destroying only the small churches and not the big churches? May be I still don’t understand how God works. I hope God will help me understand. If this is the case we should all for us in Kenya repent and seek face of God, and hope God will deal with one of us depending on the sins we have done.

    Or is it the devil who want to have dominion over the church and even our country? In this case the church need to put Satan in his place, by binding all his strategies and his demonic ways. Which is which. Hope God will make me understand. Incase he use anyone one of you, please explain without putting forward issues of elections. I want only God’s way which is not polluted by your own personal views about election.

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  • 219. Don  |  January 20, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    One thing we do not do is question why God does or allows certain things to happen. Read Isaiah 29:16 and 45:9-11 to see why.
    Like I pointed out yesterday His way’s are not our ways. He has unlimited ways of achieving His purposes and thus it would be futile for us mortals to question why he does things one way or the other. His ways are beyond our understanding and so questioning is not the way to go but rather trusting that He knows best and believing that at some point in time He will reveal why things had to happen the way they did.

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  • 220. Lulizi  |  January 20, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Bena, God is dealing with the people of Kenya across the board, the rich, the poor, and all tribes are affected. If what has happened to other people has not happened to you, then it is God’s grace extended to you; please do the needful before your “file” is discovered by the angels in heaven.

    Solomon said that some wicked people live very long lives and it is for the simple reason that God is patient with them and He is giving them an opportunity to turn. So do not be suprised if some immoral people are spared for a moment.

    What you are seeing is what is called “vicarious punishment” in the teaching profession. This is where you punish one kid in front of others as an example, (“ili iwe funzo kwako na wengine walio na nia au tabia kama hiyo yako”). The following passage captures the idea:

    1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened to them by way of example, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come. (WEB)

    1Co 10:11 These are all warning markers–DANGER!–in our history books, written down so that we don’t repeat their mistakes. Our positions in the story are parallel–they at the beginning, we at the end–and we are just as capable of messing it up as they were.
    1Co 10:12 Don’t be so naive and self-confident. You’re not exempt. You could fall flat on your face as easily as anyone else. Forget about self-confidence; it’s useless. Cultivate God-confidence. (The Message)

    Please also note that the fate of every human being is not the same; some are destined for the sword, others to die by disease, or starvation while others will be given refugee status, as illustrated in the following Scripture:

    Jer 15:2 ….. tell them that I, the LORD, have said: Some of you are going to die of horrible diseases. Others are going to fall by the sword or from starvation. The rest will be led away to a foreign country.

    A few notes quickly:

    1. This thing is far from over: this is a purification process. It is a shaking time. It will increase with magnitude with time until all the shakables in your life drop and only the unshakable Kingdom of God remains as the only hope in your life.

    2. The rich are also counting loses big time, in terms of business stoppage and loss of business opportunities. It will take years to rebuild and recover the losses, though it may not be apparent to you now. For example, many international organisations have moved their offices from Kisumu forever!

    3. Loss of reputation internationally is a big thing for the investors, the rich, business people and professionals. We might find it very hard to be respected in other Embassies and Countries.

    4. Schools have not opened, be it for the poor or rich, every tribe is affected not just Kikuyu and Luos. Transport is difficult to get in most parts of the country. It is myopic to say that only the poor and certain tribes are affected.

    5. Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. If you carry weapons to hurt other people, by the same weapons will you die. This is a biblical principle.

    6. I do not think what has happened in Kenya is good at all; but at a personal level I cannot go to the streets. If you go to the streets with weapons you will die, no matter whether you are poor or rich. It is a personal choice. On most occasions, the poor have only their lives to lose and so they go to the streets.

    7. In addition, I do not believe in activism myself, because the battle is the Lord’s. A Christian cannot be an activist because you let God act on your behalf instead of taking the law into your hands.

    8. PNU and ODM should consider their ways and ask God for strategy. I think some people are safe just because they have decided to make prudent decisions to avoid violence but it is not because they are rich, (probably they are rich in wisdom)!

    9. Some people and particular Churches have been perceived as those who fluffed up the tribal and propaganda demon. People still remember their contributions in word and deed. So you may find particular people or churches being easy targets.

    10. The burning of church buildings, I believe is symbolic, in that, it is no longer a place of refuge and a source of truth and justice anymore. The Church in general failed Kenya and this is a sign that the Church is not respected anymore.

    Therefore people, fear God!

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  • 221. Lulizi  |  January 21, 2008 at 9:06 am

    “For the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!” (Isaiah 30:18).

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  • 222. wycliffe  |  January 21, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Why do we keep on planning vain things in our minds and expressing them here?Is God blind and do you think his hand is short to save the country this country,do you all think that God is not feeling pain when he looks and sees his children whom he sent Jesus to die for killing each other and shedding one onothers blood with impunity? Let us face facts.Most Christians are used to the God of mercy and they do not know that he is also a consuming fire.If he has said we repent,repent.You and i have an altar in our hearts and we need to start by repenting and asking him to wash us and clean our altar which is defiled and put it in order and then go out their and lead others to do the same.Stop exchanging words here which have no solution.Even if Dr. Owuor comes back and you have not made up your mind to repent it will not help you with anything for it is not Dr. Owuor who wants you to repent but God who created you,face facts and stop going round like blind people.God is God and his ways are higher than our ways and he does not need you and i to tell him what to to but needs you and i to listen and obey his word without questions.Get it and stop telling anyone to know who is wrong and right.Arise forget yourselves and get back to God to give us a solution to this problem.

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  • 223. landon  |  January 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    i have noticed theodore is no longer giving any more words.i wonder why this is so.theodore, what is going on?

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  • 224. Lulizi  |  January 21, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Wycliffe, it is good to recognise that some people are not at your level of maturity. I really got angry with Bena’s question yesterday but then I realised some people are just in the dark and they need someone to help them see the light.

    Inasmuch we might whipping them to repent, we need to explain to them with patient endurance hoping that the Holy Spirit will convict them and that they will come to repentance.

    So please understand that we are different levels of maturity and we should not push them so hard…. Let the Holy Spirit do His work.

    This verse encouraged me and I tried to answer the question: Isa 30:20 Though the Lord give you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction, yet shall not your teachers be hidden anymore, but your eyes shall see your teacher.

    Sometimes when you are under the Lord’s discipline He hides himself; but sometimes he is gracious enough to send you someone to explain and teach you the right way in your wilderness experience.

    Let us try to understand that the things of the Spirit cannot be received by the flesh but must be incubated and received by faith in the Spirit.

    Our desire should be that people would understand why they are repenting and hence adjust their lives and be radically transformed to live for Jesus and be spent for the gospel from now onwards. This is not a once off thing to escape the trouble of the moment; but it is a lifetime commitment God is expecting from Kenyans and they must turn completely and wholeheartedly to Him and serve His purpose in our lifetime.

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  • 225. Don  |  January 22, 2008 at 11:04 am

    How many of you have seen this?
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    Kenya Prophecy By Bishop Dr. Douglas Muchiri
    Posted by fortytwo1 on January 19, 2008

    This is the word I got today on Sunday January 6 th, 2008 concerning the situation in Kenya. I got the word while at a Prayer for Kenya in Columbus, OH. With encouragement from those present, I am putting the word in writing so that many other Kenyans would get the opportunity to hear the same. The message is not edited or polished but it is as rough as I delivered it. In addition, like every word, you are welcome to test and see if it is from the Lord. If it is not, then discard it. However, if it is from the Lord then may we heed to it with great repentance and humility to God. Thank you.

    The first thing I saw was that there was peace in Kenya. For the sake of peace, and in the name of God, Hon. Raila choose to accept President Kibaki as President of Kenya and then there was peace in the land. I also saw that what had happened in Kenya was God Awakening Kenyans to Arise, Repent and Surrender their lives and Kenya back to God. In 2002 when Kibaki was elected president, God had anointed Kibaki to be President even though he was disabled from a road accident. In a prophetic sense, Kibaki’s being crippled signified the state in which the country was in, and so God choose Kibaki to
    restore the country of Kenya just as God was restoring Kibaki back to health. And indeed God restored the country to greater prosperity but Kibaki forgot that it was God who was doing all this and not the hand of man.
    Therefore, in a bid to wake up Kibaki and the Kenyans to this reality, God allowed the mysterious tragedy and deaths to befall members of Kibakis parliament. This shook the country and Kibaki heeded to the word of God and called for a national day of prayer in which all Kenyans humbled themselves and repented in prayer; then there was peace.

    Unfortunately, though, Kibaki and the Kenyans forgot that the hand of God was upon the nation and so when Kibaki sought a second term as president, he campaigned based on what he had done instead of what God had done for Kenya. No wonder then that he chose
    the theme ‘kazi iendelee’. Whereas there is nothing wrong in advocating for more development and prosperity, yet God was nowhere in the picture. Infact, when Kibaki launched PNU he advised everyone to campaign for him based on what “he” had done for Kenya.

    God saw the pride and arrogance in Kibaki and so raised up Raila as His servant to shake up Kibaki and the country at large. God’s hand being upon Raila, most people begun to embrace Raila including church leaders who even anointed Raila in confirmation that God’s hand was upon him. As a result, Raila’s fame and popularity spread like wildfire all over Kenya and even the nations supported Raila when they saw the dynamic change agent he was.

    However, as Raila’s influence grew, millions of Kenyans begun looking up to Raila as ‘Joshua’ who would now save them economically and bring paradise into their lives. It is also unfortunate that when Raila saw the great influence he was getting, he like Kibaki,
    failed to acknowledge the hand of God in him and so rather than point the people to God, he took God’s glory and so God was disappointed with Raila.
    Granted that almost everyone was now blinded by what they saw physically in either Kibaki or Raila, Kenyans went to vote without caring to consult earnestly with God. The sad part too was that the church also allowed herself to be caught up in the worldly politics and in so doing lost her voice to the people. For this reason, the clergy cannot speak without being treated with suspicion.

    In order to save Kenya, God looked for a man He could use and he found a God fearing Servant in the person of Samuel Kivuitu. Mr Kivuitu was only appointed to his position as Chairman of the Electoral Commission by the hand of God. In other words, Kivuitu was not Kibaki’s preferred choice but instead it was God’s hand that intervened thus effecting his appointment. The whole world applauded this act of God. The only sad thing was that Kivuitu did not even know that God had indeed set him up and even to this day, Kivutu does not understand what happened to him when he declared the presidential results. Only God knows because the answer is not physical but spiritual.

    God supernaturally intervened and allowed Kivuitu to declare Kibaki the winner in order that He may bring all Kenyans to a greater realization that Kenya belongs to God and only God must reign supreme in Kenya not Raila or Kibaki. With the results showing Raila leading, Kibaki was greatly broken hearted. God further humbled Kibaki by getting rid
    of his cabinet ministers. But again it was this humbling and brokenness allowed Kibaki to quickly surrender and call unto God. On the other side, most of Raila’s followers had completely lost focus on God and had already shifted all their allegiance to Raila to the point of worshipping Raila.

    On his part, Raila’s ego became too egotistical leaving no place for God to use Him. It was then that God preferred the already humbled Kibaki to the proud Raila and that is why Kivuitu announced that Kibaki is President.

    In the natural, this remains a puzzle to everyone. Before the elections, almost all Kenyans had invested alot in prayer and so God answered their prayers thus. Not as they expected but according to His divine wisdom. God’s answer further heavily chastised Kenyans for forsaking God and building their hopes in man. Thus, God’s answer gave Kenyans an opportunity for humility and a chance to call upon God in repentance. For this reason, Kenya’s peace and justice lies not with foreign or international mediators but with Kenyans themselves who have to humble themselves and call upon God to intervene as
    in all other times in their history.

    Concerning the tribal divide, I saw that it was only being exaggerated because deep in their hearts, Kenyans loved each other irregardless of their different tribes or ethnic orientation.

    I also saw that deep down in the Kenyans; they knew too well that only Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace. Moreover, with the death of their loved ones, neighbors and friends, Kenyans have already begun seeking God’s intervention in prayer. That is why the devil is defeated and cannot do any more harm to Kenya. Indeed Kenyans have stopped looking unto Kibaki or Raila for Peace.
    Once Kenyans realize their folly and return to God, God will grant them supernatural peace and unprecedented holistic abundance: returning to them what the enemy stole from them. So let everyone look unto God upon whom lies the hope, peace and prosperity of/for Kenya. Amen and Amen.
    “If I shut the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people and my people who are called by my name humble themselves ad pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven,will forgive their sin and will heal their land” 2Chronicles 7:12-14

    “Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit says the Lord ” Zechariah 4:6

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  • 226. Janet  |  January 22, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Brethren, having discussed all these things, what would be the Christian thing that can happen to our nation so that we can work together again? Individual repentance is very important and by this we need to include all tribal prejudices, ethnic chauvenism, dishonesty, lying, immorality and all other works of the flesh. One thing that has always troubled me as a Kenyan is the way people deal with unequal weights. Christians think nothing is wrong with using false balances in every aspect of life. This testimony challanged me about the sins that we think are small and cannot take us to hell.

    http://www.timeisrunningout.org/

    On the political front, I am of the opinion that we need other people to run in a new election other than the three who have run already. This will help the nation come together again. Each of the three are too polarising. Each party can recommend a new candidate.

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  • 227. wycliffe  |  January 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Don,many spirits are speaking now in disguise for God,but the spirit of the Lord will stand above them all.Whether this brother has been inspired of the Lord to say this is yet to be seen.Let us continue praying and seek God for the truth.

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  • 228. max  |  January 22, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Lulizi if you chest thump that you have read the bible cover to cover thats seems is for self interest a bible is no other novel even Satan himself could quote from the scriptures the idea here is to pray for discerning spirit pray so that the scriptures can help you spiritually but not to intimidate others God hates pride

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  • 229. max  |  January 22, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Our actions are the best description of ourselves more than our words our words may be full of pretense or wishful it is sorrowful that someone can say burning of church was symbolic do you ever listen to yourself i hate to say this but it is disgusting for those who know the history of Lamu they can tell you what happened to those who burned a place of worship be careful what you say and wish for for the wrath of God is real

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  • 230. max  |  January 22, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Our actions are the best description of ourselves more than our words our words may be full of pretense or wishful it is sorrowful that someone can say burning of church was symbolic do you ever listen to yourself i hate to say this but it is disgusting for those who know the history of Lamu they can tell you what happened to those who burned a place of worship be careful what you say and wish for for the wrath of God is real doubt it? then test it

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  • 231. max  |  January 22, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Our actions are the best description of ourselves more than our words our words may be full of pretense or wishful it is sorrowful that someone can say burning of church was symbolic do you ever listen to yourself i hate to say this but it is disgusting for those who know the history of Lamu they can tell you what happened to those who burned a place of worship be careful what you say and wish for for the wrath of God is real doubt it? then test it but at your own peril

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  • 232. Lulizi  |  January 22, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Max, I am a very serious Christian! How can you be born again for over 5 years and not have read the new testament alone!

    Jimbi challenged me to read my bible and that was just a reply to indicate that I am confident of what I am talking about. Sibahatishi mambo. I am not proud.

    Max, which book of the bible are you reading at the moment?

    If you are serious about God you must love His Word. That proves that your love for God is very big. Please go for it. I am here to challenge status quo and tell Christians like you to make an effort and read the bible from cover to cover in the next 2 years before you start lecturing people.

    Lukewarmness must be thrown out of the window. You do not know where I have been with God or do you?

    Repentance means you must adjust your ways and live for God and not just saying a few words here and there! You must read the word more, and pray more from today; not just because people are dying in Kenya. It should be your daily lifestyle forever…

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  • 233. Lulizi  |  January 22, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    What do you need to do as a Kenyan Christian today for God to give you accolades as those He gave to his servant Job or when He said David is the man after His own heart. (Acts 13:22) Sleeping while you pray? Ending the year before you finish reading the book of Mathew?

    The average Christian in Kenya has never read the book of Philemon and yet it is one page only. Max, who was Onesimus in the book of Philemon? He was actually a thief but he got saved!

    Secondly, people are questioning why I talked of burning a Church as the greatest sign of disrespect. Let the Word defend itself. Romans 2:24 says: “God’s name is being blasphemed among the gentiles because of you.”

    The truth of the matter is non-believers do not respect God any more because of the way we Christians have been conducting business as God’s people.

    There is no fear of God in the hearts of men today because of what we have been doing. God is disrespected because of us; and it is for this reason that we are repenting and asking God to change us so that we can meaningfully represent Him on earth and reflect the Truth to the world. We should never repeat what we did after this.

    People will only respect God and the Church when we respect ourselves as Christians. Jesus paid a very heavy price and we should be willing to pay the price also for the sake of the gospel.

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  • 234. SADAM  |  January 23, 2008 at 12:27 am

    DON STOP BRINGING THAT PROPHECY FROM THAT JOKER PROPHET WHO IS DREAMING HE IS DREAMING OF RAILA ACCEPTING KIBAKI THAT WOULD BE LIKE GOD ACCEPTING THE DEVIL TO LEAD HIM,JUSTICE MUST BE DONE DON YOU ARE LIVING IN LIMBO SMOKING THE PIPE OF DELUSION,DON IS GOD CONFUSED LIKE YOU WANT US TO NOTE IF HE APPOINTED RAILA TO BE THE PRESIDENT WHY DID HE CHANGE HIS MIND AND REAPPOINTED THE MAN HE REJECTED DO YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT GOD CHANGES HIS MIND IS HE AMAIN THE LORD DECLARES THAT HE CHANGES NOT STOP YOUR NONSENSE,THIS PREACHERS BISHOP WHATEVER ELSE NONSENSE HE WANTS TO BRING KIVUITU WAS USED BY THE DEVIL TO ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS JOHN10:10 AND THE BLOOD THAT WAS SHED IS IN HIS HEAD, THE GOVERNMENT PUT A KNIFE ON HIS MOTHERS HEAD AND HE COULD NOT DO NOTHING BUT SAVE HIS DEAR MOTHERS LIFE THAT IS STUPID FOLKS HAD TOP DIE BECAUSE OF THAT STUPID THING HEY DON TELL YOUR BISHOP HE HAD EATEN TOO MUCH AMERICAN FOOD AND HAD ILUSSIONS ON HIS SLEEP,IF HE SAW RAILA ACCEPTING KIBAKI, WHAT WAS THE CONDITIONS THAT HE GAVE TO RAILA DON’T TAKE US FOR CHILDREN MR DON PLUS YOUR STUPID BISHOP.

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  • 235. wycliffe  |  January 23, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Brothers and sisters,am writing with a lot of concern to many voices speaking through this blog.We need to come out of confusion of who and who saying what and at what level but to seek for the STILL SMALL VOICE that will only come from God.It is always very clear and cannot be confused by men.there are many men who were called by God and still called by his name but have since switched camps to join the underworld because of seeking for money,fame and name and have since given themselves to familiar spirits.These spirit comes from the spirit world and can always predict and see things according to what the spirit world wants done.That does not mena that they hear from the spirit of God.Where the spirit of God is there is liberty and no amount of confusion can be found in him.therefore test the spirits and know which one exactly has come from God and if you are truly born again and has been seeking God or the face of god then you are sensitive enough to differentiate btw thenspirit of God and familiar spirits.

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  • 236. john  |  January 23, 2008 at 10:56 am

    I am not a prophet but since the election was not right, prepare
    to go back to the ballots very soon. I am a christian like any other.
    Then justice will be done and peace you desire will be found because JESUS IS THE PRINCE OF PEACE.

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  • 237. Lulizi  |  January 23, 2008 at 11:26 am

    My experience with how God deals with the sons of men is that, to tell which spirit is from God or not, “Just ask one question: where is the eternal purpose of God in this?”

    If a prophet tells you that God will give you a lot of money and the same God does not tie his eternal purpose to that money, most likely it is a lie.

    But if God tells you that He will bless your business so that you can finance missionaries to China, it is most likely that it is God truly speaking to you.

    By the way it is a very simple test. Some people want to sound superspiritual here.

    I would like to ask about all the prophecies that have gone forth that either Kibaki will win or Raila: where was God’s eternal purpose tied to their win? If it was, then, the prophecy might be acurate.

    If the Kibaki presidency is not clearly tied to God’s eternal purpose for Kenya or Raila’s presidency for that matter, then the prophecy is a lie. Ask yourself, is Kibaki serving God? Then ask people in the streets, if Raila became president today, will he serve God?

    If you answer these questions then you will know on whose side I am. I am on God’s side! To server His eternal pupose only.

    That is my personal opinion.

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  • 238. landon  |  January 23, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    i hear you people.i hear you. and soon i shall post on this site my 6 million dollar comment to all christians.but then still, yall aint wondering where the originator of all this exciting discussion went?where is theodore?can he tell us what else the Lord is saying?surely,there must be a progression to this.

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  • 239. Don  |  January 23, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    SADAM why do you harbour so much anger???? I posted that piece on the prophecy not supporting what it was saying but wanting to know if any one else had seen it. That was all I did and you come out with guns blazing!!! Brother that kind of anger is not goood at all.

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  • 240. mx  |  January 23, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Lulizi Ask yourself is the peoples choice always Gods choice you know the answer so my point remains that ye seek the kingdom of God and the others will be added to you, the others here does not mean all, sodom was behaving the way it was behaving because they wanted to please themselves but was that the will of God just because it was multitude, Israelites when it was so hard on them in the wilderness they said the would rather they were back in Egypt but God pushed his agenda through Moses, so do not compare what the people want to what God’s will is, you are a Christian (as you say-i have no doubt) but do not act like the people who are out there. Your last comment was brilliant you were speaking like a true Christian we should ask God and wait upon him to show us his will for Kenya everything happens with a purpose.

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  • 241. MICHELE&THEODORE  |  January 23, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    For Landon and the rest of the remnantts who are curently crying out in the spirit, and those defending the cause of christ this is aword the lord gave my wife for those repenting right now, if you are not aremnant and holiness means nothing to you do not read this article.

    A Cry For Holiness
    by Michele D. Aluoch, MS, LPCC
    (c. 2008 by Michele D. Aluoch)

    The Lord is calling out now to a people who have ears to hear. He is saying, “behold, even now I am at the door.” But He is also saying He is so saddened by the behavior of people who are calling themselves “His.” People no longer want to live upright and holy. Our churches have somehow made this an afterthought, a “good idea” of yesteryear as if Biblical days were something of the past and God’s standards have magically gone out the window. However, the Lord has been crying out for a bride who will passionately and unyieldingly cry out with Him for righteousness.

    We ask the wrong question. We ask, “How will living a holy life deprive me? ” rather than “What does He see?” Dare we allow the Lord Himself to “search and probe us, to find if there be any wicked way in us?” (Ps 139) Dare we ask and listen to His response which is truly the only one that should matter.

    So what does He see when He looks at His church? He sees pastors and ministers looking at pornography in the early morning hours thinking no onesees or knows. Ah- but He knows and what is done “in secret” will be revealed in the light. He sees people calling themselves Christians who are having divisive spirits, causing disunity in the body of Christ, and attempting to do ministry without the source of His anointing. He sees the church lookingno different form the world in manner, language, and dress.

    How dare we think that the mandates- yes mandates- of the Lord are just suggestions. When you love a person you want to please them but yet we say we love our Lord and we have made Him nothing more than an afterthought and idea, a suggestion. The Lord would speak tothe few who are even willing to hear:

    “I will no longer be your suggestion- yourafterthought. I will no longer let you call my name on your altars and pray and act as if you are portraying forms and fashions of truth, purity, and godliness but refraining from abiding in my truth. I ask you what you did with that time I gave you when you could have been seeking and serving me instead of doing hidden sins?, when I was ready to pour a new revelation of my anointing and presence into you but you chose to defile my temple instead? I ask you where you went when you could have been preaching, praying and ministering to souls but you found something ‘more entertaining?’ I ask you how you responded when you were walking round about town and they used my name in vain? Did you walk by or did you confront them telling them this is my Lord? Were you ashamed of me?”

    “I am searching and seeking,” says the Lord, “but I am finding very few- very few indeed. Even those who once cared about purity in the secret places are allowing themselves to be defiled. Either you are my temple, my bride, or you are not. I am not suggesting. I am asking you therefore NOW- will you serve me or will you continue to serve other gods?”

    “Dare not think idolatry is dead. You have said that ‘but I have made no statues of gold or silver, I have not consumed my time to where I have totally forgotten God.’ Yet I say even now your idols in the secret places of your mind and heart are beginning to consume you and have consumed you more than you know. ”

    “It is true that I will cast your sin as far as the east is fromthe west. It is true that I will utterly blot out and no more remember it. It is true that I will cast the defilement of yesterday into the sea of forgetfulness but evenyou, who were once my church, are becoming so far removed from the bridal preparations I have for you.”

    “Today is your day of decision. Today I am asking you to make a choice. You may not delay You may not decide based on your mother, father, or family. You may not decide based on your denomination and doctrines. You may not decide based on what you consider the many good works you have done and the souls you have won for my kingdom while all the while you secretly laid altars for other gods in your heart.”

    “Either today will be your day of utter renewal and repentance or it will be your day of destruction. And lest you think I am speaking to some reprobate sinner let me repeat that I am calling my bride. I will no more tolerate a polygamous people. Repent now for now is the time. For my light will always exposes the darkness.”

    “Now to you, my ones who are wallking away fromthe purity I have called you, I remind you of my mercy. Mercy is new every morning. But my mercy is never a game. You cannot say but’ it was only one lustful look a few times on the internet, it was only one hidden discussion that I lied about and covered up, it was only one impure thought, it was only one time I didn’t tell the whole gospel and boldly as you put it in my heart, it was only….” I will once again press into you and call you into the fold as your shepherd if you will let me receive you back. But you must allow yourself to be restored and taken to the place of utter, unbridled passion and zeal, love, and fervor for me as your Maker, Creator, and Husband or you will truly not enter in at my returning.”

    Since the Lord spoke this to me regarding the bride He is returning for He also gave me strong discernment and a disgust and sadness for what He sees. He showed me the arrogance people who were once His own have succumbed to bythinking in terms of entitlement, cover ups, blame, and excuses. He showed me the way carnal reasoning has become so rooted in people’s lives that they struggle to see “secret” sins as a problem because they figure (in their minds that) they “don’t really affect anybody.” He showed me that the way of life now for the average person who says he or she is a “Christian” is nothing more than a sinking mire ofcompromise dragging the proud deeper away from what was once their first love. He showed me that where His people used to hunger for Gesthemane and taking up their cross just so they could press in closer to their Lord trough tears they now press into the voice of compromise. Sadly, His Truth and integrity are nearly blotted out as they were on Calvary, not by the reprobate sinner but by the lying, deceiving man and woman whoacts as if His mandates are only suggestions.

    I praise the Lord that Heis a loving Father who is not just suggesting some “good ideas.” We somehow think it is to harsh if we take God at what He says but let’s look at His truth. He cannot go against Himself. We would have no respect foran earthly daddy who, when it is time to discipline His children says, “okay kids, here is what I would like you to do but you may still go wherever you want and do as you please.” With good reason we should not respect that person. Yet we act as if it should somehow be different with our Lord. When we act as if His standards are just suggestions we are saying that we have put Him at a place of beingfar from Lordship in our hearts and have even made Him worse than sinners do.

    So, I ask you , my brothers and sisters in Christ, “what will you do? How will you respond?” The Lord is calling us back to a time of uttter travailing and weeping before Him. There are no small compromises and hidden sins. There are no okay presumptive sinful actions that we can do daring to expect His mercy to cover any old habit, addiction, pleasure, lie, or personal gratification. I will be certainly falling on my face before the Lord because I hear the voice of the Master saying that now is the time to ready ourselves. I also am concerned that if we are remnant believers we must realize that the holiness and anointing of yesterday won’t cut it. Without the Holy Spirit drenching, living andbreathing saturated abundant life of Christ in every area of our thoughts, emotions, and behavior we will not make it when He comes for His bride.

    You may have said a sinner’s prayer. You may be a minster or “member” of a particular church. You may have been raised in a Christian home. You may be winning souls but none of this is enough.

    My prayer is that we shall cry out together with utterings and goanings in the spirit. And lest we think this message is for someone else as the religious folk of Jesus’ day did, we better not point fingers either. The only right attitude each heart and mind should have is, “Lord, purify me. Lord, draw me unto you. Lord, never allow me to remain the same. Lord, take me to your cross moment by moment, day by day. Lord, make me disgusted with the hidden sins, the underhanded words, the form and fashion of holiness that denies your power, the comfort with yesterday’s anointing.

    I cry out even now. I hear loudly the wailing and gnashing of teeth. We tend to think of the sinner , the reprobate when we are reminded of this but weforget the Lord is callingfor a pure, spotless blameless bride. It would be too sad and pathetic if some of those for whom it is too late are the very ones who thought they were okay because they were saved, did righteous “things”, and reasoned that “mostly adhering to His principles” is enough. There is no arranged marriage with our Lord. We are not guaranteed the promise of a wedding with the king just because we think it is a nice idea. No. Only the pure, spotless, blameless bride will have invitations to the marriage supper of the Lamb

    Are you part of this pure, spotless, blameless bride or not? There is a reason those adjectives- pure, spotless, and blameless- are listed. The Lord didn’t just say I am coming for a bride. That could have meant any bride. He specified the type of bride for a reason. As such, we must be specific about the vessels He absolutely, unequivocally requires and mandates us to be.

    Time is ticking away. Let us be repenting, travailing, and crying out for His heart, Him to live through us. Let us get back to what is in Scripture- if there is something causing defilement and problems we must cut it off. Stop being on the internet if you are tempted to do wrong. Tell your spouse about your struggles and have the thing turned off. Stop passing by those places if you cannot refrain form worldy exploits. Be accountable to the man or woman of God and walk with that person on a different route with avoids the problem or stay home altogether if need be. Stop giving a listening ear tojokes that do not glorify God. Don’t fellowship with those people anymore because there is no innocent way of taking lightly and joking about the things of God. Stop!!! Don’t even entertain it in the first place.

    He never said follow me when you like it. He justsaid”follow me.” Either we follow or we are left behind. Notice too He said “follow.” The problem inherent inidolatry is that we want to lead, not follow. We want to be the privileged one,the bigshot.We want the glory. The Lord will never share His glory with another and if we love Him weshould never want to share in His glory.

    If you are interested in praying with us and uniting with us here at Latter Rain Healing Streams Ministry towards this call to be nothing less than the pure, spotless, blameless bride of Christ feel free to contact us, Michele and Theodore Aluoch, at theodorenmichele@yahoo.com.

    May the Lord find us worthy servants when He looks upon us and may He find we are adorned and ready at all times, that our garments are not tarnished and defiled so we must be turned away.

    Forever faithfully pursuing Him,
    Michele & Theodore Aluoch

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  • 242. Wakili mkristo  |  January 24, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Dear Prophet Theodore and Prophetess Michele,

    I believe in the ministry of prophets and in the prophecies of the LORD. It is my considered view that your assignment from the LORD ends at telling people what the LORD said, instead of you trying so hard to persuade people to believe and agree with you. In his time, the LORD will perform even the most ridiculous of prophesies such as the unprecedented flood that came in the days of Noah after Noah was mocked and laughed at for being a crazy liar. How much more easier will it be for the LORD to place either Kibaki or Raila on the throne, when they even had slim margins in opinion polls? I believe the word of prophets, even if they do not occur in the timing and expectation of men. One thing I know, after i have done my part in prayer, supplication, confessing and walking by the prophecy of the LORD, I leave it unto Him to perform it – after all, it is His Word and stake not mine! Maybe you could consider noit engaging in this verbal exchange, which demeans your prophetic office in the eyes of brethren like me.

    God Bless

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  • 243. sadam  |  January 24, 2008 at 7:27 am

    WAKILI MKRISTO I THINK THAT THAT IS YOUR OPINION AND YOUR FAITH, THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT NEED THOSE WORDS TO CONTINUE PRAYING IF YOU THINK THEY DEMEAN THEN DON’T READ I THINK HE SAID THOSE NOT SERIOUS LIKE YOU SHOULD STOP READING AND RESPONDING,MOST PROPHETS SPEAK AND RUN AWAY I THINK THIS IS A BRAVE ACT TO STAY WITH PEOPLE IDONT THINK HE IS CONVINCING ANYONE TO AGREE WITH UNLESS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN READING THIS SITE THIS FOR ME IS ANOTHER PRAYER DIRECTION THE LORD HAS GIVEN TO HIS WIFE, WE STILL WANT TO HEAR FROM THE LORD THROUGH HIM, WE DONT WANT PROPHETS WHO RUN AWAY AFTER SPEAKING STAY AND ENGAGE THE PEOPLE WAKILI STOP CRITICIZING PEOPLE IF YOU DON’T NEED THIS GO TO OTHER SITES AND WASTE TIME THERE

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  • 244. mose  |  January 24, 2008 at 8:32 am

    ithink prophets are very difrent there are those close to the people and those far off,wakili this is acry for holiness not anything to draw anybody sadam you always sound angry let it be arighteous anger
    we continue praying and use this as adirection

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  • 245. magak  |  January 24, 2008 at 8:40 am

    wakill one thing you have to know is that a prohert is a gift to the church and the nation ,in the book of amos God does nothing but he first revealed to the prophert ,you have to understand that ,prophert is they to help you to hear and know to listen to God by your self.
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  • 246. Peace of God  |  January 24, 2008 at 10:03 am

    please let us learn to listen from God and for sure we serve a faithful God and He tells us that in His time we will make everything beautiful. God is God, yesterday, today and forever more. Lets stop being proud, the other day you heard a leader saying that i quote is like Jesus mediating with Judas, please let us pray for leaders and they are bringing a curse to themselves. Jesus is humble and He humbled Himself to the extent of washing the disciples feet and the bible does not tell us that He did not wash Judas, so lets pray for our leaders to humble themselves. On prophesis the bible tells us on the end time there will be true and false prophets, so as christians let us pray to God to enable us be able to discern true from false ones.

    Lastly and not least, Lets us pray for one another and especially the law enforcers, ie the police, GSU, and the rest. As christians we have failed, we do not even pray for them, we are waiting for them to shoot then we start complaining, let remember them and tell God something about them.

    GOD BLESS US ALL

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  • 247. preeti  |  January 24, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Those who have ears let em listen and obey
    Those who want to argue no problems the choice is all yours..
    Dont u ever forget….”kila mtu atabeba mzigo wake mwenyewe!”

    May the Lord give u his divine discernment!

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  • 248. Lulizi  |  January 24, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Haya ni mambo ya kutisha na ya kustajabisha mno. Mungu ni wa ajabu! If by now anybody is still thinking we alright, then I do not know what to say!

    Without holiness no one will see God! We had sank so low! God, forgive us! Tusamehe Yesu wa rehema!

    I always wonder why poor brothers are always early to church and by foot for that matter, but when God blesses them with a car, they leave keshas early (at 2 am) and they are always late to church.

    When God starts to bless His people materially they tend to forget Him very easily. That is the way of Europe and America. Please let us heed and humble ourselves even after God has shown us a measure of success.

    I concur with the preachers of righteousness and holiness first, before we get excited by the “panda mbegu” and “nunua baraka” gospels.

    Humility and holiness must be put afore. To put everything in perspective, first and foremost God wants us to go to heaven and that is our eternal destiny. Blessings or no blessings, Brethren, we must make it to heaven!

    I am reminded of a story that has been dubbed “the missing letter H” where the Isralites went asking people to pronounce the word SHIBOLETH; and whenever someone would say SIBOLETH, he was put to death. It sounds very Kenyan indeed.

    The moral of the story is the missing letter H in our lives as Kenyans is Humility and Holiness. Let us truly repent of every form of impurity, pride and arrogance.

    Fear only God who can destroy both your body and spirit.

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  • 249. chris ken  |  January 24, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    From Genesis to Revelation there many tribal gods and prophets and never a tribal God and his prophets.
    Our God is a Great God who does not lie.
    All prophesies must come to pass. This debate is getting us nowhere you can as well channel your energies and time to the many suffering Kenyans. Hate messages wont help.
    Any one who hates a bro./sister is a murderer and awaits harsh judgement.

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  • 250. Lulizi  |  January 25, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Chris, what do you make of this verse?

    2 Peter 1:12 “Therefore, I intend to keep on reminding you about these things, even though you already know them and are firmly established in the truth that you now have.”

    The purpose of this blog is to remind each other of where we might have gone wrong and sharpen our skills in our Christian walk.

    Proverbs says iron sharpens iron but man sharpens man. We need each other because we do not have the 5-fold Ministry in one person. We need everybody to share his/her piece of the puzzle to make a beautiful picture.

    Keep at it Brethren! As we share then we realise that the Pastors have not done justice to the flock. By just reading these communications then you reckon the Christians are far from perfect, we are divided, we pray tribal prayers and some give tribal prophecies, and what we believe in is short of the truth revealed in the Word.

    Twendelee na kuungama dhambi mpaka tuokolewe. Na pia kusaidia, tutasaidia watu; na kuongea tutazidi kuongea, na tena sana! Brethren, keep on preaching!

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  • 251. Michubu  |  January 25, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Its interesting How Mr Theodore refers to TV for acurate vote tallying, hence his evindence for Kibaki’s rigging.Can’t the media be partisan? Whether your prophesy is true or still to see the light of the Day, Truth is we have a President. As whether Raila is saved(as you confess) or not, read his lips. Imagine if Kalonzo refused the V.P position how would be the situation now?Kalonzo behaved Christian to Kenyans. I hope you saw on TV that some members of Police force(from the ‘wrong tribe’) were killed in Nyanza and others chased from the region on allegations of planned rigging.
    Its now Out.The New York Human rights Watch group has evidence that Raila’s ODM top guy’s and some elders Planned the Ethinic clensing being witnessed. Yes, Kibaki might have rigged but Raila is guilty too.Stop finger pointing.
    The problems in Rift Valley is a Result of ‘Ethnic Demonization’ and Selfishness(Read Jelousy).
    Violence begets Violence.
    As christians, lets pray that there will be forgiveness.Lets repent the Blood shed.

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  • 252. Michubu  |  January 25, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Its interesting How Mr Theodore refers to TV for acurate vote tallying, hence his evindence for Kibaki’s rigging.Can’t the media be partisan? Whether your prophesy is true or still to see the light of the Day, Truth is we have a President. As whether Raila is saved(as you confess) or not, read his lips. Imagine if Kalonzo refused the V.P position how would be the situation now?Kalonzo behaved Christian to Kenyans. I hope you saw on TV that some members of Police force(from the ‘wrong tribe’) were killed in Nyanza and others chased from the region on allegations of planned rigging.
    Its now Out.The New York Human rights Watch group has evidence that Raila’s ODM top guy’s and some elders Planned the Ethinic clensing being witnessed. Yes, Kibaki might have rigged but Raila is guilty too.Stop finger pointing.
    The problems in Rift Valley is a Result of ‘Ethnic Demonization’ and Selfishness(Read Jelousy).
    Violence begets Violence.
    As christians, lets pray that there will be forgiveness.Lets repent the Blood shed.
    I choose to beleive Thomas Manton Prophesy.It looks more Real than Fiction.

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  • 253. landon  |  January 25, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Thanks Theo for the word. The Lord continue to use and bless you. I am praying for the nation and will keep doing so. I pray also that the Lord will continue to use you to give direction to His people.
    Be strong Man of God. He wont fail you.

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  • 254. magak  |  January 25, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    MICHUBU WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THOSE NEWYORK NONESENSE, WE ARE TALKING KENYA NOW WE DONT WANT TO HEAR FROM SOME FOOLS IN NEWYORK WHO RUN AWAY FROM KENYA INSTEAD OF PRAYING FOR THE NATION,NOW THEY SHOW UP WITH SOME FOOLISH CLAIMS THAT NOT PROVEN IT IS NOT FACTS,YOU ARE WITCH HUNTING AND ARE RETURNING US BACKWARD,STOP WASTING TIME AND FLOW WITH THE SPIRIT HERE EVERYONE HERE IS FLOWING IN THE SAME SPIRIT AND YOU COME IN THE FLESH REPENT AND COME FROM YOUR FLESHY OPINIONS AND PRAY LIKE THE REST OF KENYANS,
    PROPHET TOLD ME LAST WEEK WHILE VISITING HIM THAT THERE WOULD BE ASSASINATION ATEMPTS ON ODM MEMBERS LIVES INCLUDING RAILA, AND THE OTHER DAY IN THIS SAME WEEK THE PROPHECY CAME TO PASS AND WE WATCHED ON CITIZEN TV THE REPORT THAT RAILAS VEHICLE WAS SHOT AT AND THE WINDOWS SHATERED, WHY IS THE GOVERMENT TRYING TO KILLL HIM?THE OTHER DAY THE PROPHET TOLD US DURING MORNING PRAYER THAT SOME AGREEMENTS WERE GOING TO COME TO BE BETWEEN KIBAKI AND RAILA BUT THAT IT WAS NOT GENUINE, WE SAW IT YESTERDAY,THAT IS REAL PROPHECY BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
    MICHUBI OR MICHUKI WHOEVER YOU ARE DONT BRING THOSE BASELESS CLAIMS HERE REPENT AND TURN TO GOD GET AWAY FROM THINKING LIKE NJENGA KARUME
    THANK YOU LULIZI FOR THOSE MATURE AND WISE WORDS
    YOU HAVE BROUGHT BALANCE HERE ALOT

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  • 255. DOK  |  January 25, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    (1Sam 8: )
    4Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
    5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
    6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
    7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

    Among the many hidden things in our hearts, we also seem to have elevated the presidency at the expense of the Lord’s reign over Kenya !!!

    May the Lord continue to reveal all those hidden things in our hearts and lead us in the way everlasting (Ps 139:23,24)

    May the Lord forgive and have mercy on us !

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  • 256. Jey  |  January 25, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    The american reasearch findings cannot be fully relied on.
    when and how didi they collect the data which they are so fast to give while the area is so volatile for anybody to carry out any reaseach. If they had the info that these attacks were planned before electins, why didnt they give the info to the police or Kibaki himself to prevent the loss of lives and distruction of property? people are dying all over the country not just in rift valley, why did they not investigate, or reaseach on the shootings in Kakamega, Viihiga, Kisumu and Kibira, have they talked about mungiki who are chopping off peoples hands and raping women? lets be fair in our. There are people who are out there to fuel the animosity to the already bad situation by giving such one sided reports. May I urge all that we should restrain from fuelling the situation any further by giving unballanced information.

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  • 257. Michubu  |  January 25, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Magak:
    This is a tribal sentiment from an ignorant you.
    “MICHUBI OR MICHUKI WHOEVER YOU ARE DONT BRING THOSE BASELESS CLAIMS HERE REPENT AND TURN TO GOD GET AWAY FROM THINKING LIKE NJENGA KARUME”. I’ve forgiven you.
    I wonder if you’re one of Alouch’s fanatical followers,its easy to know a true prophet.It easy to say that Kibaki cheated God.Stop living a Lie.Appreciate the truth.If you like diverse opinions then look at the Prophet Thomas Manton prophesy that i received way before the elections and could not agree with it since all the Opinion Polls suggested Raila’s Victory. This is the site. http://www.thomasmanton.com. Compare this prophecy with those others.

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  • 258. Lulizi  |  January 25, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    God’s people, listen to this, Judas Iscariot had to be replaced amongst the 12 apostles:

    Act 1:23 They put forward two men, Joseph called Barsabbas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.
    Act 1:24 They prayed, and said, “You, Lord, who knows the hearts of all men, show which one of these two you have chosen
    Act 1:25 to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas fell away, that he might go to his own place.”
    Act 1:26 They cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

    I therefore wish to ask, does God disrespect our democracy? Really, if God had wanted Raila or Kibaki as the Kenyan president how was He going to achieve this act without people voting? Was there another means? I am a great believer in prophecy but it must be practically possible.

    In Kenya it is against the law to be married at night. Even if God told you to marry a certain brother or sister, you must do it legitimately: Organise a wedding in broad daylight and the clergy that marries you must also be authorised by the government to do so. If the man of God is not licenced to carry out the wedding on the behalf of the Government of Kenya, can you be declared legally married as husband and wife? Hiyo itakuwa ni ndoa ya bandia kabisa, despite the prophecy……

    I am now asking the people who keep on claiming that we have a president in Kenya: Is rigging God’s formula for installing leadership on a person? In Church, how are leaders chosen? In the book of Acts, they cast lots. In Kenya when we casted our lots on the 27th of Dec 2007 and it fell on “Matthias”, whom did we declare the winner?

    I beleive the blessing of God comes with peace and also the bible says it maketh rich and added no sorrow!

    As I had stated earlier, I have observed the way God deals with the sons of men and from my experience, God is not dramatic in the way He goes about His business. If he chooses drama, then it is for His glory to be multiplied. The trees declare the glory of God: they grow very slowly that you might not even notice it. How does God bless me? Through very natural means like me working and then being paid a salary. Drama would be that I get money in my pockets every morning.

    God does not break the law to bring about His will. Jesus said He came to fulifill the law. God, in fact, uses the most natural means to bless His people. The Bible says when a man’s way are pleasing to God, He will make his (man’s) thoughts to be agreeable to His will.

    There is a greater possibility that God had worked in the hearts of men to install a particular leader as president, and that should have come about naturally and legitimately. It must be respected.

    Therefore, I wish to object to some of these funny theories that God would have worked in the hearts of Kenyans to install a certain leader on the throne and then He goes ahead and uses illigimate means that violates every reason to install another.

    All this drama in Kenya, is it bringing God any glory? If yes, then it is God’s doing! But if not, then it is the hand of man not God. I think all this shame internationally is man-made. Our hearts are not right.

    These are just my critical thoughts in the light of the Word. Next time I will go legal, hopefully.

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  • 259. SADAM  |  January 26, 2008 at 11:48 am

    MICHUBI YOU ARE FROM PLUTO HAVE YOU BEEN READING THIS SITE OR YOU JUST SHOWED UP FROM ADEEP SLEEP, THOMAS MANTONS SITE HAS BEEN LOOKED INTO OVER AND OVER BUT THOSE WHO READ IT DO NOT EVEN FINISH, HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT PROSPERITY NONSENSE AND PANDA MBEGU NONSENSE AT THAT POINT ANYBODY WHO IS IN THE SPIRIT STOPS READING HIS SITE YOU CANT TALK OF KENYA BEING BLEESED AND PROSPERED BEFORE THEY REPENT, THOMAS MANTON IS ASPOILED CHILD FROM ARICH FAMILY HE HAS NEVER GONE THROUGH ANY WILDERNESS,WE DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE WILDERNESS LIKE HIM,EVEN JESUS WENT THROUGH APROCESS, THOMAS MANTON IS AFALSE PROOPHET WHO HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY THE GOVERMENTS MONEY JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM,BISHOP KITONGA,MARK KARIUKI AND THE REST OF THEM , YOU SHOULD STOP TELLING US ABOPUT THOMAS MANTON HE WAITS UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS THEN CLAIMS THAT THE LORD SHOWED HIM,MICHUBI YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR SKULL GET SOME LIFE REPENT YOU

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  • 260. Don  |  January 26, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Lulizi I agree with your thoughts. See what Prov 18:18 says “Casting the lot settles disputes and keeps strong opponents apart”. Probably that’s the way we need to go again to settle this dispute. Read it in your own vernacular Bible and the meaning is truly captured.

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  • 261. Hellen  |  January 28, 2008 at 9:45 am

    Hi Brethrens,
    I have read most of your comments and i must say that most of you are very bitter. The bible says that before going to the house of God if you have offended your brother then make with him and then go to church. We are pastors, prophets and we are the ones judging this people. we are so fast at saying who is saved and who is not, the bible says that we shall know them by their fruits, is this the way saved people behave, right now we should be on our knees praying for the nation and for our leaders and not judging them. What are we helping here? lets go on our knees and the lord will show us the way forward.
    Some of us are happy when certain pple from certain tribes are being killed, God is the only who has a right to take away life, not us we have sinned against the lord.
    The other day Koffi Annan said that the violence is not as a result of the elections but this thing had been well planned, we are interviewing people from Eldoret and they are saying that their sons were paid to kill a certain community and they want the person responsible to give them back their sons because when they went out to kill they were killed, is this what some of you are happy about.
    Our churches christians, pastors, prophets and bishops have taken sides with either group. we are supposed to be praying and talking too much. Let prophets prophecy but if its God then his will will prevail whether we like it or not.
    Please lets pray and stop abusing one another and stop abusing our leaders. If your biological father does something to hurt you, you do not abuse him or call him names, because he is your father.
    READ ROMANS 13:1- THE LAST VERSE
    Barikiweni

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  • 262. Philip  |  January 28, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Hi everybody,im suprised at the conversation concerning the prophecies that have come to this Nation,i was in Dr mantons meeting and i was able to hear the prophecy,i also watched on FamilyTV another prophet from South America who also gave a word concerning Kibaki coming into power and i was in touch with another prophet from Ghana who confirmed the same.The main point here is that we as christians we should not judge individuals who give the prohecy but we should judge the word as scripture has allowed us to test prophecy but to be very clear i believe Kibaki is the ultimate choice of God because Gods word cannot return void and God has been defending and figting for him regardless of all kind of claims,those are mens affairs but God has to fulfil what he has spoken remember God cannot be held responsible for what he has never said therefore is important to accept what happened as Gods will and pray the right way for this country,whether there was rigging or not know that mans system cannot dictate Gods mind and his ways because are beyond our control,remember the last americas general elections is just a reflection of what happened to our Nation.It is important to know that what is know happening is showing that this country is going through its birth pain moment where something big is about to be born in the Nation,prophetically the Lord showed me that he is removing the root that has been often been springing up called tribalism,its a deep root and the Lord is finally here to expose it and uproot it,that is why for the first time in kenya the leaders have come together and they have spoken aganaist tribalism it is interesting that every person is calling for prayers its a time when people remember there is a God in heaven.Therefore let us be sensitive and pray for God to move speedily.

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  • 263. SADAM  |  January 28, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    PHILIP YOU ARE BORING WITH YOUR KIBAKIS NONSENSE THERE IS NO WAY OUT FOR KENYA REPENT KIBAKI STOLE VOTES PERIOD YOU CANT BE GODS CHOICE WITH BLOODSHED THE BLESSINGS OF THE LORD MAKE RICH AND ADDS NO SORROW THERE IS SORROW PHILIP AND YOU ARE BLIND STOP YOUR STUPIDITY AND OPEN YOUR BLIND EYES.

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  • 264. carole  |  January 28, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    tell me more Theodore, u mentioned something about Moi being confined to his bed, isnt this proof his word is working. Has the Lord made any other revelations of late?
    God answers prayers, God will listen to us. Preach on

    Carole

    theodore’s word’s below.. just incase u missed.

    The lord is saying that Kibakis reign in power is short, he withers from within and his reign is short,he said the true bride the holy church of Christ has a solution, to speak life to speak righteousness and justice into this situation, if the living church of Christ will start to speak life into the atmosphere and into the lives of the affected there would be life again but this is only after genuine repentance by all,
    the church the true church should be focused on the great commission to preach the gospel now in words wonders and deeds, it is time for the church to preach in deeds, feed the hungry shelter those that do not have shelter,clothe the naked,and be peace makers
    There will be chaos in parliament and battles , but the lord is also warning the nation that there will be assassination a tempts on the lives of some prominent leaders, this will fuel the fire the church should start praying again ts it now say the lord,
    the lord also has shown me that something will happen to the former president moi, an ailment that will confine him to bed, his days are near.

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  • [...] 28, 2008 A few days ago, one of my readers, Theodore Aluoch, had this to say about the current political situation (refer to comments’ [...]

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  • 266. Don  |  January 28, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    Carole, it is interesting. I wanted to post what you have posted concerning what Theodore said about Moi on the 5th of this month. It has truly come to pass that Moi is today confined to bed suffering from severe back ache. Not that we are happy about this but it shows that the Lord truly speaks through His prophets. No one should say that prophet Theodore just guessed what he said concerning Moi – It was a word from the Lord. Brothers and sisters we should learn to listen when the Lord speaks to us through His prophets. In this forum I have noted that there are many who have shown utter disdain to what the Lord said through Theodore concerning Kenya. The same happened when prophet Owuor called the country to repentance. Some church ministers were then heard to say that God is a God love and cannot bring judgement to Kenya. What utter foolishness!!! God is aslo a consuming fire. Aren’t we now reaping what we have sown. But the Lord is yet merciful. We can still get reprieve if we turn to him in true repentance.

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  • 267. sadam  |  January 28, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    THEODRE HAS POSTED ANOTHER NEW PROPHETIC WORD ON HIS OLD WEBSITE http://www.melqoshrain.wetpaint.com IHAVE BEEN KEEPING AKEEN EYE ON THIS WEBSITE WHERE HE AND HIS DICIPLES WRITE ARTICLES,THE PAGE IS NEW PROPHETIC WORD FOR 2008 WELL MOST OF THE THINGS THERE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE HE WROTE IT BEFORE THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN KIBAKI AND RAILA AND IT CAME TO PASS, MORE THINGS THERE TOO, HE HAS ANOTHER WEBSITE IAHVE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT THROUGH FRIENDS
    http://www.latterrainhealingstreamsministry.org

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  • 268. wycliffe  |  January 29, 2008 at 10:03 am

    12 Then the LORD said to me, “You have seen well, for I am ready to perform My word.” Jeremiah 1;12.
    The word of the Lord that he spoke through his servant Theodore has come to pass with the assasination of Embakassi MP Were yesterday.Let’s pray for all ODM MP’s because they all seem to be endangered species taggeted for assasination by the people who think they are standing on their way.

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  • 269. baba tallis  |  January 29, 2008 at 10:28 am

    YES THERE ARE NOW RESORTING TO POLITICAL ASSASINATIONS.

    WOE BE TO US.

    PRAY FOR THE MERCY OF KENYA.

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  • 270. Kate  |  January 29, 2008 at 11:56 am

    I have read the comments and my heart is grieved. grieved because it cries out that what we see here in this blog is what is happening in the country. As I cried out to God, He took me back to the Ten commandments and we as Kenyans every single one of us have broken His commandments.
    1. I am the Lord your God – you shall have no other gad apart from me – We have raised our leaders to be our gods. We have worshipped them and place on them the burden of being our saviours and the persons to lead us out of Egypt.
    2. You shall not make for yourself a graven image in the form aof anything that is in the earth below, or in heaven above or in the earth beneath or the waters below – How many graven images do we as kenyans have that we worship? money, alcohol, power, tribes, self .. etc the list is endless
    3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who misusues His name –
    How many times have we as a anation used the name of the Lord to justify our evil ways. As a Kenyan I cannot even count the number of times without tears coming to my eyes..
    4. Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy as the Lord your God has commanded you. Six days shall you labour and on the seventh you shall rest it is a Sabbath to the Lord your God -
    This one I think we stopped obeying with industrialisation. Even when we observe the sabbath we go to hcurch with our bodies while our hearts and spirits are elsewhere.
    5. Honour your father and mother as the Lord your God has commanded you that you may live long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.
    Honor for our fathers and mothers both spiritual, physical went out with the Sabbath. We have killed our fathers for land and money, we have dishonoured our parents by defiling their maritial bed. Indeed there honor is a word many do not even understand any more.
    6. You shall not murder.
    How many are dead in the name of one cause or the other in this nation. If we have not killed personally we have wished people dead in our hearts. We have rejoiced when one of “them” was killed and mourned when one of our own died. We are not guiltless of our neighbours blood. What we have not done with our hands we have done with our words and by condoning those who do.
    7. You shall not committ adultery.
    Can we find a faithful man or woman in this country? there are a few but sin of adultery is no longer considered a sin. We are seeking fulfillment. We divorce at will. We get married as second wives. We are concubines. We keep concubines. the list goes on. Look at the movies and programs we celebrate even christians watch that which is an abomination to God.
    8. You shall not steal.
    This one I will not even add on. We steall at all levels. Starting with our homes.
    9. You shall not give false testimony.
    How many rumours have we spread? how many ” i have heard from an impeccable source who knows..” have we said. How many sms’s have we forwarded in name of sharing information. We stand guilty.
    10. You shall not covet your neighbours wife. You shall not set your desire on your neighbours house or land or his men servant or maidservant or donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
    We have done all that and more. We have killed them. We have stolen. We have taken away every right of our neighbours across the divide.

    God’s call let us all repent and save this nation. He is holding none of us guiltless and that is the message. let us go back to the foundation of our faith and receive our redemption from the blood of Christ. When we approach the throne God does not see us as Kikuyu, Luo, Taita, Kalenjin. American or British. He sees the Blood of Jesus covering every one of us. This crisis is His mercy. Like I was reminded in some countries in two days 20,000 lay dead in Kenya God has stayed the arm of Evil . Let us repent that the evil we have done does not overtake us. No one can rescue us from this except God.

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  • 271. KK  |  January 29, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    It is unfortunate that the church is divided. This election period Kenyan Christians did not pray for God to choose the leader, but for God to bless the leader they think should win! No wonder Kenya is such a mess. Until the Christians realise that, we will go through this turmoil & shake up.

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  • 272. kenya.fm  |  January 29, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    I have had my reservations about Theodore, BUT now i will keep my thoughts to myself.

    ALSO, Theodore, if you know the LORD has talked to you, do not care to explain yourself. Does it matter what anybody thinks? NO.

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  • 273. samson  |  January 30, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Theodore, you said a raila presidency will be atime of soulsearching for the church. Kindly expound

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  • 274. charles  |  January 30, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    some of the comments come from very angry people of which is not good for spiritually and physically health.GOD is Almighty and HE is well able to prevent any poll result to be stolen,therefore we should take the results as the will of GOD.None of you have the facts ot the tallying except what you are reading in the news paper about the stolen elections or heard from politicians.As kenyans we should start to build trust bridges because politicians use us to fight their battle and when they are together they dont fight otherwise they had a chance to fight during the swearing in ceremony.therefore get rid of your angeron behalf of somebody else and live a life without anger for the good of your health.thanks muchina

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  • 275. Maggie  |  January 30, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Prophet, never did i see a prophet try to defend the word of God. U dont need to prove uaself. God will if what u declare is truly His Word. For the rest of you: WE are all busy saying this or that against each other. How them are we different from our politicians. Also keep in mind that Christ said, you shall know them by their fruit. You all declare(most of you) that Raila said he got born again…where is the fruit people? Why the contradicting statements from him? Before removing the speck in your brothers eye, 1st remove the log in yours. We are all vindicative here. Michele i respect your opinion but remember, prophets are covered by God not their wives. We are called to be witnesses not lawyers. I pray for the day we shall all be so close to God that we shall be able to tell for ourselves the false prophets cos we have the Spirit of God in us. I love you all.
    If Manton is a fake, pray tell me how his prophecies come true?
    Theodore, if truly a man of God, why the hate? Men of God dont call for the wicked to perish. God does not r\delight in the death of the wicked. Rather He would have them repent. Remember our God is love. Even if we die and go to hell, God still loves us. Thats why it grieves Him so. Love is the answer. Prophet, where is the love???

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  • 276. Maggie  |  January 30, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I am a baby christian but permit me my comments.
    Prophet, never did i see a prophet try to defend the word of God. U dont need to prove uaself. God will if what u declare is truly His Word. For the rest of you: WE are all busy saying this or that against each other. How them are we different from our politicians. Also keep in mind that Christ said, you shall know them by their fruit. You all declare(most of you) that Raila said he got born again…where is the fruit people? Why the contradicting statements from him? Before removing the speck in your brothers eye, 1st remove the log in yours. We are all vindicative here. Michele i respect your opinion but remember, prophets are covered by God not their wives. We are called to be witnesses not lawyers. I pray for the day we shall all be so close to God that we shall be able to tell for ourselves the false prophets cos we have the Spirit of God in us. I love you all.
    If Manton is a fake, pray tell me how his prophecies come true?
    Theodore, if truly a man of God, why the hate? Men of God dont call for the wicked to perish. God does not r\delight in the death of the wicked. Rather He would have them repent. Remember our God is love. Even if we die and go to hell, God still loves us. Thats why it grieves Him so. Love is the answer. Prophet, where is the love???

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  • 277. preeti  |  January 30, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    I think a part from the anger, bitterness, pride etc..there is so much that still needs to be done…SOUL SEARCHING. why is it becoming hard for people to REPENT? why?? We chose for ourselves to be where we are…We lied, fornicated, rebelled, and yea Forgot that the Lord was seeing all these…Dont point a finger start with yourself…Suppose it was the end for Kenya what would you do?

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  • 278. Lulizi  |  January 30, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    I do not think it is wrong to have “holy” indignation over evil. You can be angry but do not sin!

    Read this: Psalm 119:53

    (ASV) Hot indignation hath taken hold upon me, Because of the wicked that forsake thy law.

    (BBE) I am burning with wrath, because of the sinners who have given up your law.

    (CEV) I get furious when evil people turn against your Law.

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  • 279. MAGAK  |  January 30, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Maggie pliz can you read Isaiah 7:18-30 pliz stop eating meat and drink milk that will help you ,God is a merciful but he is also a God of anger

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  • 280. Michubu  |  January 30, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    It is interesting how western News sources releases News updates before our own media house. It is at http://www.tafutabiz.com where i’ve been finding the latest kenyan news from different sources. Simply put, shall we blame the governement for this.I do support live broadcast ban too for the following reason, a politician is capable of saying anything infront of Cameras/Microphone.Imagine if he(she) declare’s “LETS KILL BLAH BLAH BLAH”, ofcourse from previous experience, he will deny it, but what about the results oh his(her) sentiments……………..

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  • 281. pst victor  |  January 30, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    kenya is going through a very hard time .please as believers lets pray that God perfect will prevails lets not defend our position using prophecies whether true or false ,indeed kibaki might have stolen but we cannot armtwist God,we just must pray and askkh im for peaceful settlement let god infiltrate the hearts of kibaki and raila and cos them to agree with each other. i am also going through a hard time , ibelieve that God would use this for our own good when we pray not only for peace or justice but pray that his will be done in kenya .
    please lets pray and bring repentance especially on behalfof the pastors ,who so openly campaigned for odm and pnu in churches above gods interest .
    everytime gods judgement comes on aland it may start through an isue like the elections or anyother but it is meant to reveal and show us who we are .if kenyan pray God perfect will will prevail that whether it will be kibaki or raila to rule it shall be so pliz lets pray .
    to our brothers who are bitter because of election results or because of their tribesmen being killed please lets repent and ask god to heal us .
    i was verry bitter but now as aman of god god has used this situation to teach me love and patience ,am planning tosend even donations to my kikuyu friend s although i felt hurt being a non kikuyu .
    i firmly believethat also god will turn around this situation and kill tribalism for good in kenya .lets allsearch our hearts .love you all .lets be sober

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  • 282. THEODORE  |  January 31, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    KENYA REPENT watch this kenya go to this page and watch and begin to have aburden to cry out to the lord, the lord YAHWEH our Lord and GOD, YESHUA told you through his mouthpiece Theodore, that they would kill more ODM mps,it was posted on the web, you saw it KENYA,it has come to pass why dont you pray kenya,you offer lips service to me where is your heart,now there is more mps that will pass on in days to come from the opposite side if the church does not pray,MAOMBI ZA DAKIKA KUMI HIZO YESHUA AMEZIKATAA, because my church is blind,deaf and muet they dont pray,they dont see, they love slumber destruction overtakes them as they sleep, their eyelids have become heavy, their gods are their stomachs,will you stand in the thickets of the forest will you run with the horsemen and win the footmen have worn you out,i even now speak about this Nation in the book of JEREMIAH chapter 5, let those that have insight see it,those that shed blood their own blood will be shed too,and it will be shed to the fifth generation,where is the authority igave you church of kenya you have lost it and the devil dances before you and you are powerless to bind him,
    KENYA LOOK AT THESE PICTURES AND SEE MY GRIEF

    http://melqoshrain.wetpaint.com/page/THOSE+THAT+HAVE+SHED+BLOOD+IN+KENYA+ARE+GOING+TO+HEL
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    UNWORTHY BOND SLAVE SERVANT OF JESUS
    Theodore

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  • 283. MAGAK  |  January 31, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    THE LINK TO THE ABOVE PAGE IS THE ONE BELOW IF YOU HAVE TRIED, THE LETTER. L . MUST BE INCLUDED ON IT,HERE IS THE LINK BELOW WATCH THIS IF IT DOESN’T MAKE YOU REPENT THEN YOU ARE A SON OF THE DEVIL

    http://melqoshrain.wetpaint.com/page/THOSE+THAT+HAVE+SHED+BLOOD+IN+KENYA+ARE+GOING+TO+HELL

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  • 284. preeti  |  February 1, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Obiero | December 5, 2007 at 10:30 am
    Peleka ujinga ya ujaluo nyarugunga.

    Hey Pals! what happened to Obiero? where on earth did he hide himself….He should come back now and face the bitter truth.

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  • 285. Lulizi  |  February 2, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    As promised, let me go a bit legal today and I wish our learned friends could shed more light here. Where are they? This is just to provoke us to become more practical in our Christianity. As a decent Kenyan and a committed Christian I find it appalling when people defend sin!

    There are things the masses do not understand, like issues of governance. I will use five cases here.

    Case I: Inasmuch as a writer here wanted to prove that every government on earth is instituted by God and therefore forcing us to submit to an ungodly rulership, I think the Bible also has a lot to say to kings and those in authority on matters of governing in righteousness. A throne cannot be established by theft, lying and bloodshed.

    The Bible says righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people. Is Kenya exalted? No! Why? Because of sin, we are reproached and reprimanded by the whole world! Kibaki’s kingdom cannot be established by killing people to subdue them under his authority.

    I strongly believe in governments, godly governments who do what is right even when no one is watching, and I religiously pay all my taxes. Every citizen should respect the government and be submitted to it, out of reverent fear for the Lord. The government on the other hand should reciprocate and not mistreat its citizens, nor extort them out of taxes, etc. In the Gospels, both Jesus and John the Baptist commanded tax collectors not to take more than was due.

    For example, the Bible says that a wife should submit to her husband and the husband should love his wife and protect her even if it means dying as Christ died for the Church. So should a wife endure torture from a cruel husband in the name of submission? God forbid!

    The parallel is that the Government is not allowed to abuse its subjects just because God gave it authority. This authority should be used constructively to make wise decisions, to care for its citizens and promote peace so that the gospel can be preached; and not to shoot and kill innocent people.

    It goes against the law of natural justice to be executed without being heard! There is so much blood in the land… God will punish every ruler that does not govern diligently. Read the books of I, II Kings and Chronicles and see how God judged obnoxious kings in the Old Testament. He is the same today and forever.

    Case II: The Law can be divided mainly into what we call Substantive Law and Procedural Law. Substantive Law requires that material evidence be produced to prove that one is guilty. Material evidence means that if the disclosure of that fact is made, it is possible that the verdict can be changed. Procedural Law on the other hand requires that certain actions/protocol be observed.

    I remember vaguely one case in Kibera where a murderer was convicted and sentenced to death. Material evidence provided proved substantively that the accused actually killed his victim. However, the law required that as a matter of capital offence the prosecutor must be at least of the rank of an Inspector. Now the lawyer of the accused went back to appeal on grounds that the prosecutor was at a rank lower than an Inspector. He won the case and the accused was set free!

    Now to summarise what I am saying is that if procedure is not followed, a murderer can be let on the loose to kill more people. In Kenya, we have stopped following procedure and that is why Kibaki is in office illegally. The whole world knows tat PROCEDURE was not followed. If the modus operandi is not followed, then procedurally, it is unfair and therefore not legally binding.

    Case III: You cannot put a gun on someone’s head and force him to sign a contract. If he fails to perform his duty as stated in the contract and you take him to court asking that he performs his duty, the court of law cannot enforce such an application.

    In essence, one cannot contract under duress; it is illegal! The same way: Kivuitu cannot tell us that he was forced to act under duress. If the court is told that he announced the results under duress, then Kibaki’s presidency is voidable. Kivuitu also admits that there is no evidence to show that Kibaki won! So how can Kibaki claim that he is the “duly elected” president?

    Brethren, I have picked up a lament! I am lamenting about the state of affairs in Kenya, generally. You find a Medical doctor made the Minister for Finance and an Accountant appointed to head Health. We have a bad legacy where no one respects the law or procedure. No one respects qualification. The most deserving cases are ignored but one who is lazy is rewarded.

    We need to go back to following procedures and doing the right things in the right way. Kibaki still thinks that he will get away with not following procedure. This is our culture and way of life! Very absurd indeed!

    Case IV: Earlier, I did raise the issue of marriage and I said that you cannot be married by an unlicensed person or be married in the night: it is against the law. Most marriages in Kenya do not follow procedure as required. People just move in!

    Similarly, Kibaki’s presidency is a true reflection of the state of affairs in Kenya and as I said earlier, we are a cheating nation and now we have been cheated. I wonder how someone can brazenly defend Kibaki’s actions! You should really be ashamed if you are a Christian and still feel it is God’s will for Kibaki to be president. If you can, then for sure, we are in for a great surprise from the God of heaven!

    God takes illegitimacy very seriously. Bena asked, “Why Kenya and not other nations?” The answer is simple: we are the true sons of Jehovah and He cannot allow an illegitimate regime to reign over His people!

    Read this!

    Heb 12:5 You have forgotten the encouragement that is addressed to you as sons: “My son, do not think lightly of the Lord’s discipline or give up when you are corrected by him.
    Heb 12:6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he punishes every son he accepts.”
    Heb 12:7 What you endure is for the sake of discipline. God is treating you as sons. Is there a son whom his father does not discipline?
    Heb 12:8 Now if you are without any discipline, in which all sons share, then you are illegitimate and not his sons.

    Case V: The Bible says that when an elder is accused, do not listen to such an accusation unless there are two witnesses. Now, in Kibaki’s case, one, 4 commissioners came out to say his presidency was in doubt. Then followed Kivuitu, then many observers say they have doubts. This is enough to send Kibaki to jail for staying in power illegally! No wonder he has authorised the killing of so many people.

    A humble and godly leader cannot do that; he would listen to people. Why is he hiding in State House? He should come out and provide leadership in this crisis. Imagine if a beast came to eat children in a home and the father was just quiet and hiding in the bedroom until it eats all of them! What a father!

    Then comes the lying from Mutua et al. They constantly lie to themselves, to God, to the Nation and to the whole world, shamelessly. All of them are acting in bad faith. Doesn’t the Lord surely see all these things? Their behaviour is unethical, unacceptable and does not meet the expectations of the electorate. They should all go home!

    Wandugu ni wa kuvunjika! If you are a Christian and all this blood has not touched you, then you are serving a different God, not Jehovah, the God of Israel! I want to hear more Christians talking and speaking the Word of God in this situation. Where is the middle class, who can read and write?

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  • 286. wycliffe  |  February 4, 2008 at 8:29 am

    My brother Lulizi,your words are true and you have just said what many think but are afraid to speak out.My cry for this nation is that we should sound judgement upon the elite soruounding kibaki because they are the people holding this man from doing the right thing and they are ready to go to the extent of sheding other people’s blood without ant apology.When shed his brother’s blood,God asked him where his brother was.Eventhough he arrogantly replied God that he is not his brother’s keeper,the blood was crying to God for justice and as a result of this,Cain received a curse.Do you think this people will espcape all the wrath of God he has released for many people’s blood they have shed?NO.They shall surely pay to the third and forht generation until all their seed shall have been wiped out.Remember the man of God said that disaster is upon kibaki’s house.He will not escape God’s judgement.Sometimes i wonder why people are so blind.What makes him think that with instability in the nation he is safe himself in state house which is also in the same land where people are dying and the people who are guarding him are also men who are bound to error?The answer to this nation is in the church and judgement must begin in the house of the Lord and it has started.The lukewarm men/women of God who just stretched their stomachs by robbing the children of God with dead messages will be deflocked and punished so severely if they will not fall on their knees and repent.God is no respector of persons because he is the same God who raised them to serve him and if they have forgotten their mandate,he is well able to raise another army who are going to walk with him in all ways.Church arise from your slumber now,for it is not time to look unto a man but God.The hour of his judgement and purification of his bride has come.Forget yourself and the people around you and cry out to God with all your heart for he is ready to listen to your heart cry.

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  • 287. Lulizi  |  February 4, 2008 at 9:34 am

    God is still speaking! This is the sad story of the Kenyan Church:

    By Francis Frangipane

    When pure Christianity degenerates into divided camps of ambitious people, it literally destroys the harmony, power and blessing of the “temple of God.” The individual who brings or supports such carnal divisions in the church has positioned himself in a very dangerous place before God. The temple of God is holy. Our unity together is holy. Our love for one another is holy, for the Father Himself dwells in the resting place of caring attitudes and loving relationships. Collectively, we are the dwelling place of God on earth.

    The warning is severe: “If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him.”

    Please read the whole article:

    Website Source:

    http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=RB007E3Q&GroupID=ZA0072M2&label=&paging=all

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  • 288. PHILIP  |  February 4, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    I have discovered that in the midist of the situation in the country GOD IS THERE,if you look at it carefully there is judgement that is taking place and inside it God is dealing with PRIDE.Some politicians thought that it was through there own strenght that they got power but GOD is here to prove them wrong.

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  • 289. Lulizi  |  February 4, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    Thanks to Wycliffe and Philip, Yes! Judgement was my next comment. It is long overdue. Some observers here have suggested that we should not judge. I have a rude shock for them: we have every right to judge as God’s people. You know wrong doers like hiding under this phrase because they do not want to be told the truth!

    Listen People!

    1Co 6:2 Don’t you know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is judged by the saints, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
    1Co 6:3 Don’t you know that we will judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?
    1Co 6:4 If then, you have to judge things pertaining to this life, why don’t you appoint as judges even those who are of little account in the assembly (church)?

    People who are afraid of judging are living in sin themselves because the Bible says the righteous are as bold as the lion but the wicked flee when no one is pursuing them.

    It is time for judgement and judgement starts in the house of the Lord! The Bible says we should judge ourselves so that we shall not be judged. We have the truth as a standard and we can measure ourselves and our performance against it.

    Do not be cheated:
    Galatians 5:19 says Now the works of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness,
    Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies,
    Gal 5:21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

    Those who have killed cannot go to heaven. Unfortunately also, those who have been killed without having Jesus in their hearts have gone to hell. That is why I am not happy with the present crop of clergy.

    If the clergy had truly preached to people and the people were born again, no one would have killed, stolen, etc. The problem is that we have been cheating ourselves that Kenya is 80% christian but from the look of things, we do not have many real Christians in Kenya. Where are they to stand up and be counted now?

    Nonetheless, we may judge but we cannot condemn. We have judged but we reserve the punishment and revenge to God for He has said, “vengence is mine, it is mine to avenge”.

    Therefore, I wish to say that we have judged Kibaki and found him guilty as charged but we forgive him, even if he is not interested! We forgave Moi, we now forgive Kibaki, we forgive Raila, we forgive Karua, we forgive Michuki, we forgive Mutua, we forgive Kiraithe, we forgive Ali, we forgive Kimunya, we forgive PNU, we forgive ODM and we forgive anyone and everyone who has killed and stolen and destroyed property. We release them into their eternal destiny to fulfil the will of God while still here on earth.

    We also release the youths into their eternal destinies, (each one of them): to get saved and become preachers of peace and love; to serve and to fulfil their God given purpose on earth and in Kenya.

    Please realise that when Stephen was being killed, Saul the murderer was there watching the clothes of those who were persecuting the Church. Stepehen did not curse those who were stoning him. He prayed for them and released Saul into his eternal destiny. If Stephen had withheld his forgiveness from Saul, most of the New Testament that we enjoy reading would not have been written as Saul (or then Paul) would not have gotten saved. Jesus said if you forgive men their sins on earth, they shall also be forgiven in heaven.

    Kenyans have been wronged including me. I feel violated but I forgive and pray that those under whom we are suffering will get a change of heart and be born again and serve God’s purposes and go to heaven when they die. I release them and pray that they will receive Jesus in their hearts as their Lord and Savior. I pray this in the precious Name of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, the Kings of kings and Lord of lords, Amen!

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  • 290. baba tallis  |  February 8, 2008 at 11:40 am

    true true

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  • 291. max  |  February 8, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    i applaud this site and the members in it for the candid discussions that are floated here there have been some very inflamatory statements by some members here but there are voices of reason that transcends and overides these few big up to Lulizi you are the voice of reason don you speak like a real Don wyclife you are moderate Sadam you are raw and u strip issues naked, where did anto go jimbi and ann.
    Nandi raider you fizzled out i am not sure buit i belief you run out of passion your issues were emotional and you run out of the fire the forum now has been left to serious issues most can just watch
    God loves Kenya and all of us should not hide and say we do not belong to the tribe that we do the idea is not to use this for exclusion, all cannot be equal nd God chooses to bless or curse the one he deems right he does not need to answer to anyone we can only e resposible to our actions, so we can only turn to God repent, and he is merciful
    God bless Kenya

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  • 292. wycliffe  |  February 11, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Jehovah has tried us and he has known our hearts and we cannot pretend like we have not heard all the messages that he has released to us through his servants.The thing is so grievious before the Lord and he will see that his word come to pass:remember Jer. 1:12.Calm has come to Kenya for a time because of the Lord’s mercy to us.But calm is different from peace because true peace only comes from the prince of peace whom we have defied in this nation.Church arise for this is the time to differentiate btw God’s people and the devil’s.If we dont repent the way he wants,the four horsemen that he has released will surely desend upon this nation without mercy and I do not want to speculate what the outcome will be but i can only say,who unto them who will not listen to this call.The son of man is at the corner but he cannot come for the church in its state.He has to purify this church before he presents it before the father.Jehovah has chosen his own to sit on the sit of Kenya and no matter any delaying tactics from the underworld,his will shall prevail in due time and the wicked one shall be exposed to the world to see who he realy is.Praise the Lord.

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  • 293. Okumba Oduor Achollah  |  February 11, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    If find Dr. Thomas Mantson’s prophecy right only where he says that an “even point” will be reached by both Raila and Mwai. However I disagree where he says that victory will go where God has ordained. I think Dr. Mantson was using the logic using steadman poll that the two were neck-to-neck or what they also called to-close-tocall. That was obvious and we did not need a prophet for that.

    Prophet Thauddore Aluoch is very accurate especially where the prophet foretold that churches will be compelled to go to there knee as it is evident now.

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  • 294. jimbi  |  February 12, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Max. i salute you. Am fine. I there though have decided to mediate more than to argue. All in all i thank God for this far He has taken our country. I perceive in my spirit that Kenya shall come out more peaceful and more united than before. God has been teaching me that for all years Kenyans had taken peace for granted, in fact when we read that this or that country is in war we were in the opinion that it was a like a movie or soap opera. God has therefore given me an eye opener to always and daily thank Him for peace in this Nation of Kenya which i also used to take it for granted!
    God bless and lets ALL believers continue praying for peace.

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  • 295. Lulizi  |  February 13, 2008 at 11:51 am

    This thought has been nagging me for many weeks now and I wish to let Hon. Raila Odinga know that God’s favour is upon him because he is a champion of the poor and the needy. However, he does not need to be the President of the Republic of Kenya to bring the desired change. You do not have to be a president to impact lives.

    Now that he has the majority in parliament and he has grassroot support, he needs to use this (parliament) and the goodwill he commands nationally and internationally to change the country and I am sure he will, with God’s help.

    One, he needs to commit himself to the cause of Jesus wholeheartedly and let God fight his battles. He needs to go public on this! Let him tell us that he will declare Kenya a Christian state as Chiluba did for Zambia.

    Two, he needs to realise that great men, world over, were never presidents. Name them: Mother Teresa, William Wilberforce, Mahatma Gandhi, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, etc. We still feel their impacts even after they are long gone. On the other hand, many presidents have left this world worse than they found it. Name them: Mobutu Seseko, Idi Amin, etc. I fear to add Kibaki’s name!

    Therefore, it is purely my feeling that if Raila feels agrieved let him lose it and he will find it. If he humbles himself, he will be exalted. These are very basic Christian principles. The way up is down. I have had so many such contradictions in my life and I have understood how God deals with the sons of men.

    Lastly, I wish to challenge our Prohet Theodore (who says he knows that Raila confessed and accepted Jesus), to look for Raila and disciple him and let him understand how God works.

    We need peace to preach the gospel, Brethren! You cannot disciple people who are on the run! But God is good!

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  • 296. MAGAK  |  February 13, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    lulizi you cannot expect prophet to disciple raila, that is not the work of the prophet prophets will only beget prophets iam being mentored and discipled by him he can only disciple other prophets the ones to disciple raila are the ones he attends their churches,he goes to church every Sunday let those who are his pastors a tend to his discipleship,prophets don’t do that lulizi and you know it

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  • 297. Lulizi  |  February 14, 2008 at 8:09 am

    Brother Magak, your doctrine is not found in the New Testament. You are still operating on the Old Covenant. The Lord Jesus has the final word on every matter and He said, “Go ye into the whole world and make disciples of all nations”. That settles it!

    By the fact that Prophet Theodore is receiving messages for the Nation, it goes without saying that he has been given mandate over the country and he must therefore influence the people in authority in Kenya. Tell him: that is his mandate. He cannot run away from it. If I were him I would look for every politician and make a disciple group for them and teach them the way of the Lord. Teach them how to govern in justice.

    Secondly, do not say prophets beget prophets; No! One, we have the whole package, the Holy Spirit. Two, all of us need the 5-fold Ministries to become what God inteded. Brother, pull up your sleeves and raise evangelists, and prophets and teachers and pastors, etc. There is no specialisation here for the men of God, for I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!

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  • 298. magak  |  February 14, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    lulizi those that have the influence and those preachers who are on tv have more influence than prophet theodore here in kenya they even try to kill the prophets they tried to kill prophet owuor last year he had to run to other nations the very bishops and pastors here ploted to kill him if you know you should understand that prophet theodore and the other prophets who preach aboout holines and death to self they dont have the luxuries that the other preachers have he has tried several times to go to media but it seems like even the media have their choices of preachers the prosperity preachers it is discouraging to be aprophet most pastors have even insulted him and thrown him out of their churches only to apologize after the words comes to pass in their churches , prophet theodore doeas not have the influence that the other preachers have if he had he would have already spoken on tv and even called for anational repentance,but ican tell you now he is planning to go on radion soon with the help of the few people who the lord has spoken to, about the five fold you are right but you are also wrong in the five fold each office has roles to play the prophets role in the body of christ is to teach people to hear the voice of the lord and to have spiritual eyes to see,that is the prophets reward that you recieve when you recieve aprophet, that is the role of aprophet in the church, you can only reproduce who you are so the same prophets can only produce prophets if they produce evangelists and the other giftings then those giftings and offices will also have adimention of the prophetic within their call, prophets dont only prophesy but they confirm the very things the lord ahs already spoke of, let tyhose christains who want the prophet to go on raido and reach the entire nation
    here is aletter the prophet posted on his website for those who are willing and propmted to help him reach the whole nation,

    Dear saints of the living God, I write this letter to you after a lot of prayer and promptings from the holy spirit, the bible says in numbers 25:6-12
    in verse 7 we see Phineas the zealous priest ,acting against the wickedness of men, he did not just talk he acted.
    verse 7 when Phineas son of Eleazar,son of Aaron the priest, saw this, note here that he is the one who was able to see, he is the only one who saw the need to do something to stop the judgment that was falling on the Israelites, others saw it, and did nothing, remember the sin was before the congregation and before the assembly, and everyone saw it, but most decided to keep quiet, and do nothing, just like the story of the good Samaritan, the pastor and the assistant pastor, the priest and the Levite were the ones that did nothing to the wounded man,
    but Phineas could not just watch this, and let it go on, 24,000 people had died here, but no one did anything, it is too sad that even the leadership of the church here did nothing, no wonder in verse 4 the lord tells Moses to kill the leaders, and expose them in broad daylight,
    verse 7
    when Phineas saw the sin ,and the silence of the leadership of the church, he left immediately took an arrow filled with the zeal for the lord, and he drove the arrow into this sinful guy and the woman he was messing with, remember in Jerusalem the lord JESUS took cords of whip and he made it himself, when he saw the money changers in the temple he was disgusted with the stinking smell of cow dung in the temple, they had turned his fathers house into Aden of thieves, they were merchandising the gospel, they were now money changers in the temple preaching about prosperity, the lord made cords of whip and whipped them out of the temple, he did something about it, he did not just watch, he stopped the nonsense, the zeal for his fathers house was upon him, they were used to the meek and mild Jesus, now they were going to meet the mean and wild Jesus, Phineas also could not stand and do nothing he took the arrow and stopped the sin once and for all, remember the contrast here the son of God made cords of whip and whipped the hypocrites out of the temple with their backs stinging them from the cracks of whip, Phineas could not stand the sin too, he stopped the wrath of the lord by showing some zeal, then the lord established a covenant of peace with him, the lord did not tell him thou have killed a man and a woman, the lord told him thank you for doing it, I will establish a covenant of peace with you and a covenant of lasting priesthood to his generation, the lord is looking for some Phineas in this Nation of Kenya, as the church leadership keeps quiet about everything including repentance, and I mean the genuine repentance, we continue to see them sipping sodas in statehouse with their flowing robes, posing for the pictures, so void of power ,and authority bought by the system for cheap, they now find that they cant fight the hands that feed them, the silence in the church is deafening, there is a cry in the land, for the lord to raise a voice for himself in this land, as voice that will act just like Phineas did, remnant radical church that will speak for the lord, for our preachers have become mute idols, that cant speak toothless dogs, that cant bite they lack authority, I remember when witches from Mombasa warned people to return stolen good s or face dire consequences, and the people complied, where is the church that can warn leaders who steal votes to return them or face dire consequences, do you want to tell me that witches are more revered and feared more than our God, we have reduced our God to the other god the unknown god, we demean our God, by mixing with other leaders of other satanic faiths to pray,these prayers become irrelevant, every time we pray national prayers we mock our GOD, when we allow other idol gods of other religions, to be exalted on the platform with JEHOVAH. Where is the church leadership that will be feared like Elijah, that will speak to politicians and they will hear, that can tell the nation to listen and they will listen, do those witches of Mombasa wield more power than our preachers? the cry is deafening my brothers and sisters the lord is asking where are those who will stand and be counted? We see the church becoming an organization claiming biblical structure, but manifesting hierarchical world system of government, leaders that are bent on titles ,status and position ignoring servant hood, sacrifice ,example and stewardship, we have churches where we enjoy the worship of men, but do not minister to the lord we exalt the power of God, but we don’t want the power with God, and we do little to attract his presence, we think God use to speak but since he wrote the bible he lost his voice, God still speaks today and his sheep will hear his voice, the only reason why we don’t hear is because we are goats, the lord only will live with what is pure, holy and consecrated, he cohabits with the virgins who have the jars of oil for the midnight oil does not run out, we are in the season of Judgment and the four horsemen have been released over the land of Kenya, the lord is giving grace, he is covering us to give us a time to repent, only Gods presence can enable the believer to confront the enemy and evils of mankind we have seen, with a powerful expressions of the truth combined with supernatural power only Gods presence is the glue that holds us all together ,through tensions, conflicts and violence, the church in Kenya has failed Kenya, as a nation, the church has lost the glory, the majesty the mystery, of all that God is within himself, our meetings do not reflect his nature but our own nature, we are not concerned with his interest but our own selfish interest.
    Jeremiah 10:21 The shepherds are senseless and do not inquire of the lord they don’t pray anymore so they do not prosper or succeed and all the flock is scattered, that is why the churches are divided now and the sheep is scattered, because we have dead, deaf, and blind priesthood leading the church,

    LET THOSE WHO WANT TO SUPORT THE PROPHETIC VOICE STAND NOW

    my brothers and my sisters the lord is giving us as a command, as a ministry to go on Radio to act it is nolonger just words we have to act , so that the whole nation will hear the voice of the lord, the lord is saying just like Phineas acted against sin when the church leadership was quiet, the lord is saying act now, me and restore his voice, to this land restore the fear of the lord, to the body of Christ, preach the un- compromised unpolluted, undiluted word of God, set your face against them and prophesy, for am with you, speak to the nation my heart, raise an army for me, gather the remnants now, make haste my son, this is the command the lord has given to us as a ministry, there is a need for the lord to raise for himself a prophetic voice in the land, we want to move to Radio as directed by the lord, the prophetic voice must be heard all over the nation of Kenya, we want to have a 30 minutes pro gramme on radio bibilia husema,
    the program will cost us 8,000ksh per program , we intend to have the pro gramme once weekly, I need 8 willing partners who will act now just like Phineas did, those who are willing to make that stand and be counted, stand with us to restore the glory to the body of Christ, to restore the dignity and integrity to the body of Christ, help me raise the banner of the lord over Kenya, partner with us to stop this plague, as you do this you are making a stand and partaking of the grace and the anointing that flows through this ministry and you are favoring the lords righteous cause, The lord promises his delight to bless those who favor his righteous cause.
    psalms35:27
    will you stand and be counted? Please let me know if you are willing to be among the eight partners to stand with us for this Radio pro gramme, please send us your once a week support for this pro gramme through pessa point number of phone 0728828804

    may the lord YESHUA empower you and grant you grace and favor as you take a stand to support his voice in the land in Jesus name.
    sincerely in Christ
    ProphetTheodore &Michele Aluoch

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  • 299. baba tallis  |  February 15, 2008 at 11:12 am

    brethren,

    Thomas manton will be having a meeting for prohecy for kenya at
    PCEA GUEST HOUSEi(MAIN HALL)

    MUHOHO AVENUE(OPP YMCA)
    SOUTH C, NAIROBI

    CAN ANYONE CARE TO ATTEND AND REVERT BACK WITH THE DETAILS? THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING

    http://www.thomasmanton.com./home/index.php

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  • 300. Mkenya Asili  |  February 16, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    For those who believe there is a God somewhere and that the bible is the true Holy book that offers guidance to mankind. Kenya is undergoing judgement from God, all these would not have happened if the true belivers would have done what they were called to do. Kenya’s Church has lost its focus. But God will spare the land from further ruin because of the praying few. Just like in the old times when God handed the Isarelites over to the babylonians because of their wicked ways, the same can happen here, President Bush is determined in restoring peace in Kenya, mark my words he has nothing to loose if he has to bring the marines and take Kibaki off from the state house and install the Speaker of Parliament as Interim President till the mess is sorted out between PNU and ODM. This is where we are heading, It is President Bush’s last term in office and he wants a legacy left behind. All I can say may God use him for the sake of the poor suffering Kenyans.
    I still beleive in one Kenya, I have a dream when one day we shall have one Kenya One tribe.

    May God bless Kenya.

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  • 301. prophet Theodore  |  February 16, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    Theo lord spoke yesterday and said clearly that in the next few days and weeks we are going to see terrible things in the sky and and on earth the lord spoke and said something will happen in the sky involving planes and that there would be also terrible things on the earth to awaken us more to prayer,there is so much idolatry in the nation the lord is displeased with it.
    unworthy bond slave servant of Christ
    Theodore Aluoch

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  • 302. shalom  |  February 17, 2008 at 3:06 am

    Thanks for the prophecy. I believe the Lord speaks and shows us what is to happen in the future for a purpose , if it is negative, then it is God’s desire for us to pray and stand in the gap so that evil does not prevail. If it positive and it is an enhancement to the Kingdom of God , God’s desire is that we continue to fight the good fight of faith as we see his word coming to pass. When we see evil things happening, the Body of Christ is to blame because we never took our position and stood in the gap for the evil not to prevail when God warned us , at other times we are too busy to hear the voice of God so situations and circumstances take us by surprise. But God always warns and speaks, for he has said that he never does anything without revealing his plan to his prophets ,and the Holy Spirit has come to show us things to come. Saints let us always walk in the spirit, listen to what God is saying and stand in the Gap concerning the things God shows us.

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  • 303. kim  |  February 18, 2008 at 12:34 am

    I salute Rev Aluoch’s message and it is becoming evident by the day and it lines up with a prophecy from Rev. Wale who was fought by KEnyan ministers and forced out. He was not perfect but he was here to rescue a generation. Reverend Wale’s Propohecy last year in July is attache further below -

    Brethren in the end Kenya will be saved to be a blessing to East and Central Africa and to help birth an international awakening

    XXXXXXXXXX
    Let us strive and not stop pursuing God till he Rain righteousness on the nation
    XXXXXXXXXX

    Judgement will continue for a time and the Kikuyu will continue to be alienated and retreat to their ‘ancestral land’ but many will sincerely turn to God and out of repentance there will be reconciliation

    LORD, send your rain

    From: Wale Akinyemi [mailto:omoakinyemi @yahoo.com]
    Sent: 18 July, 2007 4:45 PM
    Subject: Prophesy For Kenya

    The Lord said to Elijah, 7000 prophets have not yet bowed their knees to Baal. What should have been a comforting piece of news was actually a sad piece of news. There were 7000 prophets and yet Baal took over the Nation. Where were the prophets when they were needed the most as an army to stand against the spirit of Baal? Where were the prophets? They were in caves and minding their own little empires.

    History is repeating itself again in Kenya today. Where are the prophets? Mungiki came and took over the land. Where are the prophets? Tribalism has taken over the land and even the church. Where are the prophets? A spirit of lethargy looms large over the people. Where are the prophets? Worshippers go to church more out of religious duty than out of a true passion for God. Where are the prophets? Crime and death has taken over the airwaves. Where are the prophets?

    Now the Earth is shaking. Where are the prophets? The earth is shaking, what are the bishops saying? People are looking for answers. Where are the prophets. The earth is shaking and the bishops and pastors are campaigning. The Earth is shaking and no one is praying.

    Your pastors and bishops have lost my zeal. Now they build their own empires. Now they form their own pastoral parties to run like political parties and all those who are not in their parties become the enemy.

    No country has the Kenyan record of enmity within the body. The Bishops tear at each other and have used the pulpit as the launching pad for bringing down any move of the Spirit of God that is not originating from their church. The pulpits are turned into launching pads for gratifying greed. Launching pads for hitting at the enemy who often is another bishop or pastor. Those pulpits will be forcefully taken away says the Lord.

    For thus saith the Lord God of Hosts to the Nation of Kenya. Because you have taken my love for granted. Because you have taken the peace that I have given you for granted. Because you have taken the prosperity that I have given you for granted, you will now experience what your neighbors have experienced in the past saith the Lord. For I will shake and shake and shake again. This is the beginning. The beginning of your sorrows.

    After the shaking of the Earth, there will be a political shaking and then a financial shaking. How are the mighty fallen. You have not learnt from your neighbors. You did not learn from Rwanda , from Zimbabwe , from Sudan , from Somalia . You did not see my hand and thank me for it. Instead you have served your bellies. Your Bishops have served their bellies.

    In this season says the Lord, I will bring about a change of guard in the Spiritual Leadership of your Nation. I will release my prophets who are after my heart and will do that which is in my mind. The Samuels are coming. The Elijah’s are coming and yea they are even already in your midst says the Lord.
    They will speak with authority and without fear of man. They will upturn empires of evil that have been built by your leaders.
    They will upturn both Spiritual and political empires. Dynasties shall be brought down.
    They will speak my heart and my mind in this hour says God. Many of them will be young and untainted by the riches of the palace. David’s will replace Jonathans in the scheme of things says the Lord.

    There is a shaking in the spirit and you have felt it in the physical but that which you have felt is only the beginning says the Lord. I see a lot of blood ahead. I see foreign Nations coming in their droves to the rescue. Nations that have looked up to you will become your saviours. Nairobi will be hit. Mombasa will experience a different type of hitting.

    This hitting of the Nation will force the Land into the fulfillment of the prophetic destiny to be a springboard for the gospel. There will be a great Kenyan dispersal as people from Kenya flow into every nation on earth.

    Will you watch and let the land fall?

    Will you stand and watch the enemy take over your land?
    In this season as I raise a new prophetic order in your land, those who hearken unto the words that they speak shall shine in the midst of the darkness for yea darkness shall cover the land literally and spiritually, . The energy sector will go through a crisis that will plunge the Nation into darkness.

    In the midst of the darkness, my word still stands true says the Lord.
    Those that turn to me and call on me with their hearts, those who humble themselves, those who come to me with sincere hearts shall be saved says the Lord God Almighty for out of this darkness will emerge a new Kenya:
    A Kenya that has no resemblance with the past.
    A pure Kenya.
    A Kenya where the pastors will be ambassadors of love. Where the bishops will be examples of humility.
    A Kenya where the son of a nobody can become somebody without knowing anybody.
    A Kenya where from the highlands to the lowlands, there shall be joy, there shall be love.
    A Kenya where tribalism will be a thing of the past. A Kenya where the Lord shall be God indeed.
    A Kenya where of a truth, the just shall live by faith.

    Prophesy by Rev. Wale Akinyemi concerning Kenya .

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  • 304. preeti  |  February 18, 2008 at 8:25 am

    The lord said, you have slept and slumbered and allowed Mungiki to rise again. They thirst for your heart and blood they are back.They will rise unless you repent and pray.

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  • 305. Lulizi  |  February 19, 2008 at 9:27 am

    Brother Magak, I hear you and I can identify with your frustration. However, I would like to remind you of Gideon. God referred to him as a man of valor, a great and valiant warrior. Gideon begged to differ with God because he was the least and smallest by all standards.

    I wish to tell you that I meant what I said: God looks at Theodore with favour and He has given him influence over the Nation of Kenya. Influence not as the world sees it but as God sees it. God is seeing him as He saw David the shepherd boy or Gideon. He should not despise himself just because he is not yet on TV.

    Joseph could interpret dreams while he was in prison and his gift introduced him to the Pharaoh. He later became the most influential person in Egypt after Pharaoh. He in fact was raised to save the country from calamity.

    Let Brother Theodore pray himself onto the national scene and ask God to introduce to the Nation. God is faithful to the faithful. Let him act on this in faith and God will take care of the rest but he must make the initial move first.

    God puts a very high premium on initiative. The people you see on TV had initiative. Let the true Believers and Pastors also take the initiative and tell the world what God is truly saying. False prophets are doing it why can’t the true ones do it?

    I am praying for you to succeed.

    Brother Lulizi.

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  • 306. Don  |  February 19, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    The prophecy given by Wale Akinyemi concerning Kenya in July 2007 is being fulfilled as we see and parts of that word concurs with what Theodore posted here on Sunday 16th. I am sensing many people are now saying calm has returned and so all is well. Brethren we are not out of the woods yet. Let genuine repentance continue and Theodore the Lord has given you a voice for the Nation – let it be heard in every corner of the country. May the Lord be with you as you take this bold initiative to make His voice heard in the land.

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  • 307. PROPHET THEODORE  |  February 19, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    THE PROPHECY FOR CUBA COMES TO PASS

    WE PRAISE THE LORD TOGATHER FOR THE LORD HAS DONE CONFIRMING THE PROPHETIC OFFICE OF MY SON PROPHET MAGAK, HE GAVE THIS PROPHECY A WHILE AGO ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT GOD BREAKING COMMUNISM IN CUBA READ ABOUT IT THE PROPHECY CAME TO PASS TODAY FIDEL CASTRO STEPPED DOWN PRAISE BE THE LORD,HE CONFIRMS HIS WORD THROUGH HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS

    http://melqoshrain.wetpaint.com/page/THE+PROPHECY+YEAR+2008-+TO+THE+NATION+&+CHURCHES

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  • 308. hajui  |  February 20, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I have one question to ask Prophet Alouch or Rev Wale, am quiet intrigued by the People from Central Kenya, even if they see that they are being misled by their leaders like e.g the clashes that happened in the Rift Valley Kibaki,Madam Lucy,Martha Karua,Michuki have not bothered to go and see this guys but you will find that they will vehmently swear allegiance to this leaders and yet as other kenyans we can see that they are being shortchanged even the way Kibaki rigged kikuyus no matter the level of education will insist the guy won, please don;t get me wrong am half kikuyu and luo and have in-laws who are kikuyus. BUT! my question is ; is this because of the oathing that was done by their forefathers in the past during mau,mau as we know blood covenants are binding and BLINDING?!! My own mother who is kikuyu told me she will always back her people no matter what while us her children from the other tribe can back our own this really hurt! me as her child and from then on i vowed to HATE tribalism with all my heart and to fight it i cannot wait for kenya to have presidents of other tribes please prophet theodre this blood covenants that were done is it affecting the generations of Central Kenya that they cannot see? Hajui

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  • 309. PROPHET THEODORE  |  February 20, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    JEREMIAH 13:23
    CAN THE ETHIOPIAN CHANGE HIS SKIN?OR THE LEOPARD ITS SPOTS?
    NEITHER CAN YOU DO GOOD,WHO ARE ACCUSTOMED TO DOING EVIL.
    VERSE 24 I WILL SCATTER YOU LIKE CHAFF DRIVEN BY THE DESERT WINDS(,25) THIS IS YOUR LOT, THE PORTION I HAVE DECREED TO YOU DECLARES THE LORD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE FORGOTEN ME AND TRUSTED IN FALSE (gods, YOUR LEADERS,VOWS AND OATHS)

    (26) I WILL PULL UP YOUR SKIRT OVER YOUR FACE THAT YOUR SHAME MAY BE SEEN.
    THE LORD IS ABOUT TO REVEAL THOSE THINGS THAT MEN HAVE HIDDEN WITHIN THEIR HEARTSTHOSE VOWS THEY HAVE MADE IN SECRET,THOSE PERVISION AND OATHS, AND EVEN THE BLOOD COVENANTS THAT SOME HAVE MADE WITH SATAN,ARE ABOUT TO BE REVEALED AND EXPOSED TO THE WHOLE NATION,THOSE WHO FIGHT THE WILL OF THE LORD WILL BE KILLED BY HIS SWORD, SOME OF THEM WILL COLAPSE AND DIE AS THE WHOLE NATUION WATCHES SAYS THE
    LORD,KENYA WILL BE SHOWN GRACE AND MERCY BUT ONLY BECAUSE THE FEW RIGHTEOUS HAVE PRAYED AND TOUCHED THE HEART OF GOD, BUT HIS WRATH IS STILL ON FOR SOME WICKED MEN IN THIS GOVERMENT,TRIBAL VOWS AND TRIBAL OATHS ARE DEEPLY BINDING IN THE SPIRIT,IT IS SPIRITUAL UNION THAT BINDS THOSE THAT ARE INVOLVED& CAN ONLY BE BROKEN BY THE TRUE GENUINE REPENTANCE BY THOSE INVOLVED,THE BLOOD OF JESUS NEVER LOSES ITS POWER, LET THOSE WHO HAVE MADE OATHS COME TO THIS FOUNTAIN FILLED WITH EMANUELS BLOOD WHERE SINNERS PLUNGE BENEATH THE FLOOD OF HIS BLOOD TO LOSE ALL THEIR GUILTY STAINS,
    NOT ALL THE KIKUYUS ARE LIKE THIS, I HAVE SOME WONDERFULY SAVED AND DELIVERED KIKUYUS, BUT THERE ARE THOSE AMONG THEM THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY EVIL,INCLUDING SOME OF THE BIG BISHOPS WHO PLOT TO KILL IN THE NAME OF SAVING THE PANDA MBEGU GOSPEL,THESE FEW BAD ONES HAVE LEAVENED THE WHOLE BUNCH, PEOPLE ARE UNDER DELUSION OF THE ENEMY ASTRONG CLOUD OF DECEPTION, AND THE ENEMY HAS CAST ATRIBAL SPELL UPON THEM WE CAN ONLY BREAK THIS BY PRAYER,NOT CHILDISH PRAYER BUT AUTHORITATIVE PRAYER,
    THE LORD IS ABOUT TO ABASE THE PROUD AND EXALT THE HUMBLE.
    unworthy bondslave servant of christ
    Theodore Aluoch

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  • 310. Peace of God  |  February 22, 2008 at 11:18 am

    For sure we serve a merciful and faithful God. His mercices are new every day and the bible tells us those who go to him with repentant hearts will surely be forgiven.

    The bible also says in God is no respector of persons. I have noticed that some pple in this blog want us to believe that God is only going to punish PNU people, people of God go to the principles of God and know that God has given every body room to repent there sins and if you do not God is going to deal with you either you are from ODM, PNU, Kikuyu, Kale, Luo, kisii pastor, president or whoever you are so please people of God let us go to our knees and thank God that He has given us a beautiful nation as Kenya as this and such a time like this. I have also noticed even Church leaders are taking sides based on tribal lines. What makes me wonder is if we are talking about the same God. The bible says that He is the same yesterday, today and forever more and the does not lie so what He says for sure it will come to pass.

    Lets all ask God to forgive us for we have sinned and falled short of glory of Go.

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  • 311. kim  |  February 22, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Dear Peace of God
    Nobody is saying that only PNU people – It is God who is saying what HE is going to do – Even by mid last year prophet Muna in Chrisco had warned and told people especially of Central KEnya what God was saying about them frustrating the move of God – To God a nation is defined by their language not by borders – Dont ever forget that – When we are told to go to all NATIONS-ETHNOS it is going to all TRIBES not ‘countries’ or ‘races’ not at all. GOD is not looking at KEnya as one tribe when GOD looks at KEnya he sees more than 40 NATIONS- FORGET IT – The truth is that if there has been one tribe that has frustrated the revival of God it is the Kikuyu and that is why they will be judged. I am writing this as a believer not as ODM/PNU -

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  • 312. kim  |  February 22, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    The prophecies are being fulfilled __esp 301 by God’s servant and other before

    There was a lunar eclipse in KEnya on Thurs Feb 21
    That same night two USARMY f15 jets collided
    The next night a Plane ‘disappeared’ in Venezuela
    The same thursday KAnyotu was buried – Last week former KEnyan spy chief Kanyotu died because of ‘diabetes’
    There have been two strong earthquakes in the last two weeks – one in DRCOngo the other in Indonesia
    in This past week Ol Donyo Lengai erupted in Norther Tanzania near Lake Natron – this mountain was influenincing the earthquakes that have been affecting Nairobi last year

    BRethren We should not lead lives as usual – MAy GOD help us to truly change and be sal and light in KEnya and beyond – We as believers are the instruments God will use to salt and light East and Cemtral Africa and the world!

    301. prophet Theodore | February 16, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    Theo lord spoke yesterday and said clearly that in the next few days and weeks we are going to see terrible things in the sky and and on earth the lord spoke and said something will happen in the sky involving planes and that there would be also terrible things on the earth to awaken us more to prayer,there is so much idolatry in the nation the lord is displeased with it.
    unworthy bond slave servant of Christ
    Theodore Aluoch

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  • 313. shalom  |  February 24, 2008 at 6:19 am

    Father God we come before you based on what Jesus has done for us on the cross, based on the covenant we have with you through Christ Jesus.

    Lord we bring Kenya before you a nation that you love and have always loved and will continue to love. Father God forgive us of all the sins that we have committed as a nation. You are the God who searches all hearts and everything lies bare before you. Forgive us for all the evil that has been committed in our nation, for all the past,present and future evil , we know that it is because you loved Kenya that is why you sent your son Jesus Christ to die for the sins for Kenya so that when Kenya believes in you Kenya will not perish but have everlasting life in you.

    Father God we know that the evil being seen is not of you because every good and perfect gift comes from you where there is no shadow of turning, and we know that your thoughts toward us are not evil but good. Father we thank you that surely goodness and mercy shall follow Kenya all the days of our lives. We know the evil we are seeing in our country is because of doors we have opened to the enemy as a nation because we have not walked in your ways. We confess our sins , the sins of our ancestors ,Forgive us cleanse us from every evil .

    We take authority over all the works of the evil one, in Jesus name, devil we rebuke your plans over Kenya and we command you to restore everything that you have stolen from our land. We will not rest until you restore all that you have stolen from us. We take authority over all the works of confusion, destruction, murder,hatred in Jesus name. You unclean spirits you are leaving Kenya now in Jesus name, never to come back again. Lord we bind every spirit of deception that the evil we are seeing in our nation is from you. Lord open our eyes to see who our real enemy is, who is the devil.

    Lord we thank you for what Jesus did to him on the cross of calvary . Jesus disarmed him and made us to sit in the heavenly realms with Christ far above all principalities and powers and we can boldly say we are taking Kenya back from the deception of the devil. Father we will give you no rest until we see your purpose which you had over Kenya before the foundations of the earth fulfilled in Kenya. The devil will not have Kenya. Thank you Jesus.

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  • 314. augowycliffe  |  February 26, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    The Lord God of heaven and earth whom we serve cannot be mocked.It is evident that the spirit of Jezebel and Ahab are in the leadership of this nation.God has given them time and again to repent but they have refused to repent.The wrath of God is soon revealed to the dissobedient who have hardened their hearts and have refused to repent instead have chosen to display their wicked ways with impunity before men.
    Time is indeed running out to the disobedient church who come to TV screens to talk of erelevant things that God has not spoken about.Whoever is listening to me,if you feel in your spirit and there is a witness in your heart from the spirit of God that you are one,stand and be counted.Separate yourself from the lukewarm church who have lost their voice and cannot talk about sin and even call leaders of this nation to repentance.If you happen to be under a man or woman of God whose life does not reflect the glory of God and preaches to you dead messages that are not able to revive your soul then,FLEE to the mountain and ask the spirit of God to lead you to the right flock before you loose your place in the k’dom.Jehovah has raised Elijah’s and Jehu’s of this time to get rid of the jezebels and the ahabs of this season and soon the remnant church will only move in the position the Lord wants them to be.Arise child of God and forsake the world and embress the cross of Jesus Christ.

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  • 315. prophet Theodore  |  February 26, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    Remove the stumbling blocks and idols from your heart remove your sin from your mids Kenya, i,will raze your idol towers down the nation will experience my anger, warn Martha karua that i will no longer have her stand on my way says the lord, declare that my anger and my wrath continues to abide over this land, turn my anger and wrath away by only presenting holy pure golden censers before me in the mids of this sinful people ,i will now begin to expose your preachers i will now begin to expose your ministers and i will now declare your pulpits fleshly , carnal altars built by your own hands, void of my authority,void of my backing, you have chosen your own destiny Kenya you have chosen your own destiny Kenya, turn while the window of grace is still slightly opened what will you do when it is shut?,for when it will be shut i will not listen to your Daniels and your Elijah’s, anymore but will execute judgment with perfection watch over the false prophets who have come up in your mids, and you blindly follow them they talk of nothing else but their business interest, in your country you have heard them declare that they are businessmen, they are interested in the silver and the gold, they are not interested on the cross and my blood , they have loved the attention they get from men they crave the praises of men, they have built altars for themselves,they have torn down my altars and replaced them with their own altars, worshiping themselves and allowing others to worship them,
    i will now allow your nation to be invaded from the north, you will be invaded from the north Kenya, you will experience the invasion and you will go even more on your knees, how much more judgment do you need to turn around,when you repent Kenya you pray together with Muslims and Hindus and you demean me and pervert my presence, they need to repent and turn away from their idol gods,i will not listen to those polluted prayers iam the lord your GOD YAHWEH,there is no other god besides me,
    i tell your pastors to mend their ways, to render their hearts and not their garments
    i will judge the wicked members of parliament those that refuse to heed the call to repent those that frustrate my purposes says yeshua i will destroy those who will stand on my, my righteous anger my judgment will be unleashed on those that frustrate my plans i will now again pour forth my wrath upon you Kenya will again allow you to cry and travail and mourn and wail for your land, the solution is not negotiation the solution is repentance will this country turn to me before my grace period runs out.
    i ask the church to pray judgment over every person who is frustrating the purposes of God,pray against the Jezebel’s spirit upon the statehouse.

    in his service
    unworthy bond slave servant of Christ
    Prophet Theodore&Michele Aluoch

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  • 316. augowycliffe  |  February 27, 2008 at 9:21 am

    No escape brothers.We have to submit to him and this kind of submission requires the spirit of God to help us do it according to his word.We cannot run to countries or men to seek refuge because no one can run from him whose eyes sees everything even beneath the sea.We must arise and cry to him for this is the hour for his salvation.

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  • 317. Micom  |  February 27, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Look at the Kenyans dead from the post election violence.Such destruction.Violence untold here before. I visited http://www.tafutabiz.com frontpage .God save us.This should never happen again

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  • 318. wycliffe  |  February 29, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Good morning brothers ans sisters.We give God the Glory for Justice done to all Kenyans.this has been so because of the remnant church of Jesus Christ.If you did not pray and repent,this country would have been a heep of rable.But that does not mean we stop there because it is only the beginning and the only man who can sustain true peace is the Prince of Peace himself.The church of Jesus Christ,arise and stamp the Leadership of Jesus Christ and his authority upon this land.Idol worship and all idolaters must not be allowed to lead again.It is time we tell God to either cause them to bow to the name of Jesus or face judgement with vengence.It is time to pray out all wicked leaders out of this government and to kick Jezebelic spirit out of this country,right form state house.Church,the reason God has given us a second chance is for us to run to him and humble ourselves that we may allow him to do his will in this nation.Do not slumber just because a deal was signed yesterday but pray more until the leadership of Jesus Christ is established upon this land.And before i forget,all men and women of God,the clergy who compromised must be told to repent and get back to God or be exposed and prayed out that God may deflock them never to cheat or preach any dead message again in this land.Back to the cross where Jesus died and down at his feet is the most high place and in his presence,we have to go and seek his face.

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  • 319. wycliffe  |  March 3, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Bro Lulizi,where are you now?

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  • 320. wycliffe  |  March 4, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Am left to wonder and ask myself one question at this hour.Before things came back to normal,many used to express soem tribal agenda on this blog and some could portray a greem picture of what the situation luke like and yet others were at the breaking point because of the political issue in Kenya.
    What has changed that now you don’t express yourself here?Have we now gone religious again and we nolonger talk about anything?Have we gone lukewarm again and it has now become bussiness as usual or we have simply forgoten and said in our hearts that after all we neede peace and it has been restored until now we are beginning to forget the prince of peace?God does not want us to be lukewarm but to be firy,Arise now and speak and remove your eyes from those two men(Raila Odinga,Mwai Kibaki).The peace we are enjoying came from the prince of peace and not Annan because he failed and called off negotiations until God worked in the spirit of Raila and Kibaki to agree,WAKE UP ALL

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  • 321. Janet  |  March 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Brother, I don´t think people have gone back to busines as usual esp the Christians who frequent this blog. It is just that it has been a draining season and people just need to a break. However it is important that the Christians remember that if what happened in Kenya was judgement, then we should arise and stand in the gap seriously so that there is no repeat. We also need to forsake wickedness esp the believers because it is our sin that has brought the nation this low. Otherwise, to God be the Glory for the mercy He has shown Kenya. We thatnk God for every one He used to restore sanity in the grim situation.
    I would urge us as brethren to continue engaging each other in fruitful discussion on how we can help restore the Glory of God back to our nation. Remember that some of the people who were involved in the election fiasco are said to be born again and they have brought shame to the body of Christ. Right now, I don´t think people will take believers seriously esp because of the failure of the Church to speak the truth in the midst of the turmoil. We therefore need to work hard to regain the trust of the people of Kenya again. Integrity starts with you and me in our small ways.
    Be blessed.

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  • 322. Lulizi  |  March 4, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Brethren, I am very much around and I continue to visit this site frequently. I have actually been reading the postings since 2005 and I realised that God loves Kenyans so much. He has been speaking clearly to us through many servants if His but we are a stubborn and stiff-necked people.

    In the anguish of my heart, I have been asking questions and trying to understand a number of things. Some questions God has answered me but others He will reveal to me in His time.

    I have read the document Kibaki and Odinga signed. I will find it very difficult for Kibaki to sign such because that is what he should have implemented in 2002 lakini aliruka! What did Kikwete and Bush tell Kibaki that he signed it within hours what could not have been done in weeks of mediation?

    Another issue: When Kivuitu said, “and the winner is……” at that instant, what came over him? Was it the Spirit of God or a demon? Yesterday I was reading Dr. Muchiri’s prophecy from the US. Was God using Kivuitu? What I fail to understand is how God could allow so much death because His desire is that everyone gets saved.

    Now that a deal has been signed, I am looking at 2012. What is the spiritual destiny of this country? Assuming that we will still be having ODM and PNU, how will people vote in 2012? My fear is that the same voting pattern of 2007 will be repeated. The Mount Kenya people in PNU will vote as a block and the rest of Kenya against them! What is the implication? Or how will we make Kikuyus vote for other tribes or rather, how will we make other tribes vote for a Kikuyu?

    I may be wrong but as the Constitution is going to change in the next few months, what will stop people from voting along tribal lines? ODM will be voted with a landslide for presidency and premier: President = ODM; VP=ODM; Prime Minister=ODM; Deputy Prime Minister=ODM. So how will Kenya look like after 2012? Kikuyus will be alienated! God forbid!

    Therefore, Wachungaji wako na kazi ngumu sana! They need to start preaching with some urgency: true repentance and change of heart for all peoples. For as long as we harbour grudges of what has happened we shall remain polarised and we shall pass on the seed from generation to generation.

    On oathing, we need to teach every born again Christian to renounce generational traditions, practices and break the curses that come along with such. Those were the first few lessons I got as sson as I confessed that I was a Christian. Today I am so free – I love people despite their race, religion, class, etc.

    We need to change completely and serve God’s purposes and plant good seed. My daughter (7) asked me if a LIKE kikuyus. I am aware that her best friend is a kiuk. I told her I LOVE kikuyus beacuse they are God’s people. I had an opportunity to plant a seed – good or bad. So let us all take responsibility and plant good seed and do good to all at all times.

    I am still ruminating on a lot of issues; that is why I am quiet.

    God bless Kenyans so that they will be used in the end time to reach the world for Jesus.

    It is your Brother Lulizi.

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  • 323. JJ  |  March 5, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Hello brethren,
    I have been challanged to love my fellow Kikuyus despite the negative things that I feel they have been doing against the country. I was not a tribalist as such until the period after 2002 elections. In my wedding, our best couple were Luhyas, MC a Meru, Coordinator was a Kamba, bridesmaids included My Kikuyu, Kale friends. Infact despite being Luos, the ceremony was in English and Swahili to allow all other people understand the proceedings. It is important that we regard other people. I have been hurt by all the insults that have been directed at communities. Why then do we complain when people direct racist comments at us, esp those of us in the diaspora? We are no better. Infact, I decided that I will no longer be offended by racist comments or stares. We have been proved to be worse, this time at our fellow countrymen. May God forgive us for all these. After watching the latest program on ITS SUPERNATURAL at http://www.sidroth.com, I heard the lady saying that Christians will go to hell because of habouring hate and bitterness in their hearts and that hell is to be avoided at all costs. I therefore appeal to all brethren to repent and ask the Lord to help us learn to esteem other people. Even if according to you they lack in worth , yet Jesus died for them too.
    The other thing I think needs serious attention is the fact that the young people taking oaths are subscibing to an idol God. People including Christians are embracing them thinking that they are protecting their communities. So apart from all our other sins in the nation, idol worship is being reintroduced into the country. We know where that leads to in the eyes of God.
    Brethren, let us take our country back for Jesus.
    Be blessed.

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  • 324. Concerned  |  March 6, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Brethren, this blog and/or forum is a perfect picture of the state of the church in Kenya today. DIVISIONS. Are we really serving the same God. The God of the bible?

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  • 325. wycliffe  |  March 6, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Concerned,this is a good question.Pray about it for the Lord needs to reconstruct his altar that was defiled by politicians and men and women of God who took sides in the last general election.Forget about the expression of men here and cry to God to do a new thing in this country.We need to reach a point where we can truly see the miracle working power of God come back to the church to heal the hearts of many who are wounded and to call sinners to repentance through the conviction by the spirit of God.Rise to the occassion and pray above that which you see expressed here pls.Otherwise,Jesus is Lord.

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  • 326. Lulizi  |  March 6, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Watu watubu waokoke!

    Repent or perish, people! We must change our ways! God will judge us on the final day. The bible says you may have it easy on this earth like the rich man while others suffer like Lazarus, but your final end is very important.

    King David said he wondered why the wicked people have it easy and the righteous have a hard time but when he entered into the sanctuary of Jehovah, he understood their end. His son, Solomon said the end of a matter is better than its beginning.

    You can debate in this column as much as you like but remember that your final destiny is vital. Will you make it to heaven by the way you live? Borana, Kikuyu, Luo, Luhya, Maasai, Turkana, Kalenjin, etc, poor, rich, in Kibera, Runda, Standard 2 drop-out, or PhD holder, what you do to others will be judged on top of your motivations and intentions.

    Therefore Brethren, Love your brother and sister without reservations. God is testing us.

    Otherwise, it will be a very interesting time to see Martha Karua, Kalonzo and John Michuki reporting to Raila Odinga, that is, if they remain in the cabinet. It is good to honor all men and treat them with respect even though they are in low positions.

    It is good to have a vision of the future.

    While I was working somewhere, Person X was reporting to Person B (the Boss) and B harrassed X so much at some point. X went back to the University and got an extra qualification and got promoted. Within a short space of time B was reporting to X. I wonder whether Martha Karua ever thought tables can turn.

    Let us learn our lessons, and let those that rule, govern with diligence because God will judge them harshly as leaders and teachers (role models) as stated by the book of James.

    Above all, offer prayers for all men as a priority as Paul commanded Timothy. I fear to think that if truly this was a divine conspiracy that God was in this storm, what was Raila going to do that made God hinder his presidency? It must have been a very grievious issue. Plese pray for him!!!! He needs Jesus desperately. Pray for Kibaki also and the rest of the leaders.

    God bless Kenya!

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  • 327. prophert magajk  |  March 7, 2008 at 7:43 pm

    praise the lord? brethren the only solution for kenya is God not annan or can I say a man ,people in Kenya are praising a man and not God ,breathren let us not mock God whatever a man sows so shall he reap ,do you want the mercys of God that you desire or in judgment because of His desire, just like it was during the time of Abel God is asking Gensis4:7 if you do well ,will you not be accepted?And if you Do not do well sin crouches at your door:its desire for you must master it , God is warning cain before he killed is brother Abel ,what happend to kenya was has result of man not submitting to the voice of God but of man if you read in verse 23 lamech said to wives Adahand zillah,Hear my voice :you wives of lameach <listen to what I say :for I have slain a man (merely) for wounding me and a young man(only) for striking and brusing me .If cain is avenged sevenfold,truly lamech will be seventy-sevenfold .The blood in these land still crys to the Lord day and night for God to avenged they blood just like God never l;et go of Abels blood God will not let go of the blood that was shed because of power let go back and cry of mercy that is found in the cross through the blood of Jesus that speaks much better things than the blood of Abel ,let the church araise and take is rightful place where is the manifestion of the sons of God the world ios waiting ,Where are the sons of God?

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  • 328. Don  |  March 8, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    I see something that is disturbing. God has shown us mercy but it appears we christians in Kenya have not awakened to the fact that it was God’s mercy and not anything we or anyone else did that brought us peace. It seems we have not done a thorough introspection to see that it is the wickedness that we so foolishly and blindly embraced that brought God’s wrath on us. What we need to be asking ourselves is whether, as the church, we have truly turned back to God. It is only when we do that that the church will once again become the light and salt in Kenya. I am afraid what I am seeing is a return to business as usual. We do not seem to learn our lessons.

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  • 329. Lulizi  |  March 10, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Brother Magak, I do understand your feeling 100%. However, I would like you to appreciate that in their backslidding, preachers have not taught people to glorify God. When God performs a miracle He wants you to glorify Him but people have forgotten God so much that they have no idea that we were created for the glory of God and for His pleasure.

    God used Koffi Annan, but we see people (idols) rather than God! Last year people were seeing Kibaki or Raila as their saviour. God poured His wrath on this country. So what have we learnt? Nothing! The first 2 commandments are that we should not have idols that compete with God for His glory.

    Do not forget that God is a jealous God people! Please read this……

    A Jealous God
    by Francis Frangipane http://www.frangipane.org

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    Have you ever sensed spiritual resistance, as though some power much greater than you was deliberately opposing your success? We often assume it is the devil who is fighting us. Allow me to suggest that, on some occasions, what is standing in your way may not be an enemy at all; it may actually be the jealousy of God.

    Is the Almighty jealous for us? Yes. The Lord describes Himself often in the Bible as “a jealous God” (Ex. 20:5, 34:14; Deut. 4:24, 5:9, etc.). We should expect He would be jealous since we have actually been created for His pleasure. While His covering, nurturing love accepts us as we are, a time comes when He begins to confront the false gods, the idols, which rule in our hearts. Indeed, anything in us that denies Him full access to our souls, that stands between our hearts and His, becomes His enemy.

    The revelation that His jealousy will fight against our hidden idols can be frightening if we are intent upon sin, yet it can also be liberating if we desire intimacy with Him. For He will not allow us to find enduring fulfillment in something apart from Him.

    Listen to His command in Exodus: “Watch yourself that you make no covenant with the inhabitants of the land into which you are going, lest it become a snare in your midst. But rather, you are to tear down their altars and smash their sacred pillars and cut down their Asherim — for you shall not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God” (Ex. 34:12-14).

    Oh, let us hear God’s heart in trembling fear. The Lord’s very name is Jealous. Jealousy is central to His nature. Indeed, it is an abomination that false gods should occupy our hearts, for we are the temple of God.

    A Land Of Idols
    Israel committed many sins, but the worst of them involved idol worship; idolatry, beyond all others, tried God’s heart. How does that relate to us, you ask? We don’t have other gods in our society. Yes, we do. Though they are not standing openly in our city squares (usually), the idols in our land are just as demanding. In fact, our nation is full of false gods that influence both our actions and our thoughts. Since we each were created to worship God in focused purity, God must confront the idols in our hearts. Indeed, from His view idolatry is unfaithfulness.

    Recall the Lord’s word, “No one can serve two masters.” One of the most dominant idols in our culture is obsession with wealth. Even though our currency says “In God We Trust,” it is more often the dollar we rely upon, not God. In fact, while billions of the world’s poor starve, we are addicted to spending our wealth selfishly upon ourselves.

    Jesus said in Matthew 6:24, “You cannot serve (bow before) God and mammon.” God, not money, must be our master. If we tithe, give to the poor, and do not let money rule us, wealth can certainly become our servant, and thus a blessing to us and others. But if we allow finances to rule us, mammon can easily become a false God adding stress and greed to our existence. Yet, remember: Jesus did not say we couldn’t have money; He said we couldn’t serve money. The voice of mammon must be subdued if the Lord alone is to be our Master.

    Betrothed To One Lord
    Consider the powerful influence that entertainment, sports, fashion and the drive for success and materialism have over American society. If the Lord has to compete with our passions, then we are harboring idols in our hearts. Fear also is a powerful idol that rules many souls, especially during these times.

    We must see God’s jealousy as His desire to love and shelter us through life. He is without the dark, evil elements that human jealousy has. But even with our finite understanding, we know jealousy is response to unfaithfulness in a loved one. Once human jealousy awakens, it easily can become a consuming fire. If this has happened to you, then you know somewhat how our unfaithfulness affects the Lord’s heart. Paul certainly was thinking about this when he wrote, “For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin” (2 Cor. 11:2).

    James 4:5 says, “He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us.” Yet, James also said, “You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” (James 4:4).

    The Lord jealously desires our spirit; He calls us into oneness with Him, where we live fearlessly and radiantly as His bride in the earth. Sometimes, as I seek the Lord, I call Him by His name “Jealous.” It has a profound effect on my heart. I know He knows me and loves me. As I surrender to Him, I actually advance deeper into the secret chambers of His love. Yet, should I pursue other things at the expense of my time with Him — even this writing itself — I feel the fire of His jealousy. I am hemmed in and unable to advance successfully anywhere except toward Him.

    The Idol Of Wanton Immorality
    We’ve discussed the idol of mammon and we’ve mentioned other idols such as fear and worldliness. But let me also speak candidly about another false god: the powerful idol of unbridled sexuality.

    Remember, in Exodus 34 we previously read the Lord’s command to cut down the Asherim. The Asherim were fertility goddesses worshiped in the ancient pagan countries surrounding Israel. They were demons that had infested human sexuality and perverted it until sex actually became a central object of worship.

    Today, in America, we may not have Asherim or fertility poles on the street corners, but certainly the realm of human sexuality has been exploited by the demonic realm. Sexuality is the bait used to sell a myriad of products that, in themselves, have nothing to do with sex. It’s a demonic power in our world that is corrupting millions of people.

    Let me be very plain: If you’re watching movies or looking at other media that glorifies wanton or perverted sexuality, you’re serving a demonic idol. My friends, don’t compromise with immoral entertainment. Don’t compromise with the sensuality that oozes from most of the fashion and music industries. Put an Internet filter on your computer so you won’t stumble. Get rid of the cable movie channels that bring immorality into your home. One thing leads to another and you will soon be under the power of a corrupting and addicting influence that will literally consume your soul.

    The Lord created sexuality for the purpose of natural reproduction. Reproduction is God’s design, yes. But Satan has manipulated God’s purpose in order to bind people to their fleshly identity. Once bound, we find ourselves trapped in an almost irresistible and insatiable hunger for increasingly perverse forms of sexuality, none of which have a purpose in reproduction or marriage fulfillment.

    Beloved, don’t tolerate open doors to immoral filth. Capture the first inclinations toward sensuality, for it leads to seduction and many a life has been destroyed by this idol. Do not “own” perverse thoughts that urge you toward adulterous or homosexual lifestyles. If you fall, get up, repent, and rise again (See Mic. 7:7-8). Remember, God wants you to destroy the idol of wanton sexuality, not have it destroy you. You must be aggressive and stand up and fight!

    Before we pray, let’s recap: God jealously desires your heart. He is looking for people who are faithful to Him in their spirits. And, He calls us to tear down and destroy the inner idols that hold influence over us.

    Lord Jesus, I submit my heart to You. I want a heart free from idols, free from false gods, free from demonic masters. Father, I repent for allowing idols in my heart. In Jesus’ name, I take authority over every unclean spirit that has gained access to my life through my compromise. Lord, be Thou the only God who sits in the temple of my heart.”

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  • 333. Lulizi  |  April 8, 2008 at 8:37 am

    Are we still praying for the coutry? Ni kama tumerudi Misri!! There is definitely a cover of an eveil force over Kenya….

    Kibaki lost and it is actually a favour Raila is doing him by offering him a few slots in the cabinet.

    Look at what Robert Mugabe is doing in Zimbabwe!! What is wrong with our old people? Hawa watu hawazeeki kwa heshima….

    What example are we setting for our younger generation? What legacy are we leaving behind?

    This is very disappointing, really!

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  • 334. wycliffe  |  April 8, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Brother Lulizi,Kibaki’s case is a case of Pharaoh and God.A time is coming and it will not be long when Kibaki will know that there’s a God who created this country and rules in the affairs of men just like he also made it plain to Nebuchadenezar.You and I knows that God hates pride and what Kibaki and his enchmen are doing is a classical case study of the same.Nebuchadenezar used to say’my kingdom’ before God took him to eat grass and learn where power lies.Kibaki is about to know that he is just like anybody God created and put in Kenya to do his bidding which he has refused to obey.Whatch the space God does not lie and cannot go back to his word.When he said Raila is the President,he is.He did not say Raila will be the prime minister of Kenya.This are arrangements made by men to try and disguise the truth from taking place.Remember Jeremiah 1:12.Use this to pray against the weaked leadership in Kenya.

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  • 335. wycliffe  |  April 8, 2008 at 9:56 am

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    Babies and Bathwater
    by Stephen Crosby http://www.stevecrosby.com

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    I’ve given 35 years of my life in Christ trying to advance the cause of the continuation of all the gifts of the Spirit until the return of the Lord. I’m as pro-miracle, healings, and local church as anybody on planet earth could be. I care deeply for the sick and afflicted. My deep concern motivated me a over a year ago to write a book about the need for the healing power of Christ to be regularly manifest in our local churches.

    For me, supernatural healing is not some “optional” dimension of kingdom life. Healing is a core element of the Gospel that is to be fully preached (Rom. 15:19-20). I’m glad for any legitimate manifestation of supernatural power that brings relief to human suffering, done anywhere, at any time, by anybody, in the name of, and on behalf of Jesus Christ.

    However, I’ve been alarmed for a very long time about many of the commonly accepted beliefs, value systems, and practices in my “tribe” known as the Charismatic Church. The recent events in Lakeland have created quite a stir in the media. My unease long pre-dates the specifics of events in Lakeland or any individual involved there. However, the events in Lakeland (and elsewhere) can serve as a contemporary frame of reference for my comments.

    We worship a perfect Lord who is quite content to allow tares and wheat to grow side by side in His field. He was even content to allow a snake in His garden. That’s quite a conundrum. We should not be surprised or shocked then if some of our efforts on His behalf might be less than perfect! Perfectionism kills. Perfectionism always stifles life.

    The faultfinder’s magnifying glass will inevitably turn upon himself. However, part of the prophetic function is to make crooked things straight (Isa.40:4). That’s not perfectionism or faultfinding, though some may interpret it as such.

    We’re all familiar with the adage: “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.” The presence of dirty bathwater means someone is at least trying to clean a baby! That’s a good thing! God forbid that I, or anyone, would encumber someone who is at least trying, however imperfectly, to implement and bring forth the fullness of our inheritance in Christ. The problem is, we’re not even throwing out the bathwater. We’re drinking it. We’ve acquired a taste for it, our taste has become an addiction, and we think our addiction is normal. In a brief essay format, there’s no way to exhaust all the implications of our bathwater addiction, but what follows are nine unprofitable elements that I believe are floating in our tub.

    Bathwater Issue #1 – The Devaluation of Scripture
    Do the Scriptures matter to us any more?
    I ask this seriously, not rhetorically. I run into scores of believers and leaders who attempt to make this argument: “We don’t need a Scripture for everything, God can do unusual things.” There’s often token acknowledgement of the Bible as our “sole guide for faith and practice,” but in practice, it’s little more than lip service and philosophical cover.

    There’s a difference between un-biblical prohibitions and non-biblical issues (the difference between immoral and a-moral things). I’m in for that, including accommodating unusual manifestations. However, if “we don’t need a Scripture for everything” means that any attempt to evaluate manifestations by the standard of Christ and Him crucified is deemed judgmental, critical, legal, or “not open to the Spirit,” then I’m out. God can never do anything inconsistent with His character and the Scriptures reveal His character.

    “We don’t need a Scripture for everything” is currently being used to justify extra-biblical and non-biblical supernatural phe-nomenon such as talking with deceased saints and famous persons from the past, prophesying to and communicating with animals, and angelic encounters of dubious biblicity (see #9 below). These practices, and others like them, are being promoted as the “new thing,” God is doing, or the “new” prophetic dimension.

    There is no subtle way to say it. This is demonic level deception. Talking to the dead is called necromancy. It’s an occult sin. People who’ve been talking to the dead should not be given the testimony microphone. They should be taken to the deliverance room.

    Folks, if we’ve come to the place where the Scriptures and the preeminent revelation of Christ and Him crucified are devalued in favor of supernatural encounters and manifestations, we might as well quit now. We’re devil bait. If you’re of the persuasion, based on your hunger for the touch of God’s manifest presence, that “we don’t need a Scripture for everything,” you might as well not bother reading the rest of this newsletter. Nothing I say will matter to you.

    Bathwater Issue #2 – The Attestation Value of Supernatural Power
    The number of believers and leaders I meet who believe that the manifestation of supernatural power somehow proves that God is real alarms me. The presence or absence of power MEANS NOTHING. Power can be counterfeited. They’re called lying signs and wonders, done with all power, if possible, able to deceive the very elect (2Thess.2:9; Mt. 24:24). They’re real. Have we forgotten that not only Moses’ staff, but also Jannes and Jambre’s staff turned into a snake? Therefore, the pragmatic argument: “it must be God because people are getting healed and raised from the dead,” is erroneous, dangerous and should be confronted.

    The last testifying work God did was the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. God is alive and trustworthy because the Scripture says so, and because Jesus Christ is alive in resurrection at the right hand of the Father, not because someone gets healed or not.

    Some might say, “What about signs and wonders? Don’t they bear witness to Christ?” For us, the manifestation of things su-pernatural is an “unusual event,” mostly due to the influence of centuries of Western rationalism which doesn’t allow for anything supernatural within an “educated” worldview. Arid rationalism is just as bad as unjudged manifestations. In Christ’s time, pagan exorcists, folk healers, and wonder workers were commonplace. Christ and the apostles were not the only ones performing supernatural wonders.

    Signs and wonders testified for Jesus because they accompanied other elements in Christ’s life. Consider a step stool analogy. A stool must have at least three legs to stand. The minimal three legs (there are likely others) of our discernment stool are: the man (person), the message, and the ministry. If any one of the three is missing or out of order, the wonder or sign has no testifying validity to the person manifesting it or the ministry of the person.

    The Man (person)
    Imperfect and seriously flawed people can manifest genuine supernatural gifts from God. The church in Corinth proves that and gives hope to us all! However, crooked and corrupt people can manifest supernatural manifestations from our adversary. Balaam gave the only accurate Messianic prophecy in the Pentateuch, but because he, himself, was false, his ministry was false and not to be associated with, emulated, or followed. Jesus’ signs were attesting because of His character and relationship to His Father.

    When it comes to discernment and issues of God’s validation, character counts, not power. Ethics, behavior, methods (particularly where money is concerned) and interpersonal relationships all matter.

    The Message
    Jesus’ miracles testified to who He was because He accurately represented the Father’s mind and interests. Contrary to over-whelming sentiment among many Charismatics, (especially those with evangelistic inclinations) doctrine counts. By doctrine I don’t mean monolithic agreement on every issue. I mean the accurate representation of Jesus Christ from the Scriptures in New Covenant, grace-based, transforming power. Even the Mosaic Law (Deu.13:1-4) made it clear that a genuine sign or wonder that was accompanied by a false message was to be ignored and the individual performing the sign or wonder was to be put to death! A fairly strong sentiment in I would say.

    Neither Jesus nor Paul made the working of signs and wonders the central feature of their ministry. NEVER. Christ only did what His Father told Him to do, when and how He was told (Jn. 8:29). He encouraged recipients of miracles to just do what they were supposed to do, and not make a big deal out of it (Mt. 8:4). Of course, they being like us just ignored what He said. For Paul, Christ and Him crucified was always central (1.Cor.2:2). The reality of the Holy Spirit as the Empowering Presence was second in importance, and supernatural signs were somewhere in the distance.

    The Ministry (the miraculous works)
    Signs and wonder attest only when (at a minimum) accompanied by the other two qualities. If someone walks on water and raises the dead, but lacks the other two elements, they, and their ministry mean nothing to me.

    Biblical miracles had a context and an object. They either relieved human suffering, testified to Christ as coming from and being one with the Father, or both. “Free-standing” signs and wonders that are decontextualized, do not relieve human suffering, or which seem to occur for little reason other than the thrill factor of the saints, should be viewed with a high degree of skepticism, if not rejection.

    Bathwater Issue #3 – A Lack of Discernment
    In our Church culture even the mildest attempt at rebuke or correction is greeted with a howl of protests about being judgmen-tal, harsh, critical, religious, Pharisaical, and condemning.

    By definition, something that’s perfect doesn’t need to be evaluated. Human vessels are involved in all aspects of ministry, including supernatural manifestations and we’re not perfect. That’s why Paul is clear in 1 Corinthians 12-14 that supernatural manifestations, especially prophecy (because of its instructive element and influence upon the whole community) must be judged and evaluated.

    There’s a reason one of the gifts of the Spirit is the discerning of spirits . . . we need it! It’s rarely used. Discerning people are frequently accused of being “critical” and “not open to the moving of God’s Spirit.” The gift of discerning of spirits is like seeing in 3-D Technicolor in a universe where everyone else sees in 2-D black and white. It is human nature to resist what is not understood, especially when corrective. It takes a very mature 2-D person to be able to receive what a 3-D discerner has to say. 3-D folks eventually get tired of being beaten down as being “negative and critical,” so they just give up—in no small amount of self-doubt and despair. Thus, that gift is neutralized.

    The kind of critical judgment we’re forbidden (Mt. 7:1) is judgment that condemns. That is, a kind of “final sentence” condemnation of people. To do so, means we’ve determined the limitations of God’s redemptive power, and of course, only God can do so..

    However, the same Scripture that forbids condemning judgment tell us to judge righteous judgment (Jn. 7:24). According to Isa.11:2-5 this means not evaluating by sight or hearing (merely our natural faculties, prejudices, and preferences) but to judge all things from the perspective of Christ and His Cross. Not judging by our natural faculties prevents us from reacting to, or being put off by outward packages, presentations, and methods that we just might not care for. We must look beyond those things but we are mandated to evaluate supernatural manifestations.

    Bathwater Issue #4 – Celebrityism
    Shun as you would the plague a cleric who from being poor has become wealthy, or who, from being nobody has become a celebrity.
    - St. Jerome.
    You have reached the pinnacle of success as soon as you become uninterested in money, compliments, or publicity. – Thomas Wolfe
    Why do we celebrate and elevate someone who allegedly works miracles, but someone who quietly cares for the sick, the dis-abled, the elderly, day after day, year after year barely gets our attention? Why do we celebrate power, but not selfless service? Why are wonder workers celebrated, but those who maintain their faith in the presence of suffering and/or persecution go unno-ticed? There are no headlines, conferences and “seed” offerings for them.

    Why will we spend thousands of dollars to travel to see the latest wonder working ministry, but will not open our hearts or our wallets and inconvenience ourselves to visit the disabled person across the street? Why do only the great and grand get our atten-tion? Why do we ignore Jesus’ admonition to not run hither and yon based on reports of Him being here or there geographically (Mt. 24:23-24)?

    Since when (humanly speaking) has God initiated anything on a great and grand scale? Even the incarnation itself was hardly recognized as a significant event. Bethlehem was off the map, and looking in a manure filled stable for significance would not be #1 on our list of leadership principles of “how to build a successful ministry.”

    I believe our value systems in this regard are shameful, and spiritually bankrupt. Our personality-based, gift-based, event-based, pizzazz-based, excitement-based, conference-based, hype-based, offering-based value system is terminally flawed.

    Success breeds celebrity along with all its attendant temptations. Fame is inherently intoxicating. Being a Christian celebrity plays into the worst elements of our culture that are impressed by fame and fortune rather than character and message. I think we could take a note or two from Jesus’ habits of downplaying miracles, withdrawing to be alone after successful ministry (Mt. 14:23), or withdrawing when they wanted to make him king (Jn. 6:15). If it had been us, we would have held a conference. “Send the multitudes away” is not frequently in our vocabulary. Christ’s kingdom, never has, and never will, come with observation (by sight – Lk.17:20).

    Bathwater Issue #5 – The Expert Syndrome
    Dependence on a single gifted individual in a conference format plays to excitement and enthusiasm and a sense of an “event” happening, touches from the Lord, and so forth, but is inadequate to reconfigure or empower the saints and equip them for life and local church functionality. You might say, “How can you say that?”

    Well, we’ve been doing revivalistic, crusade, and conference ministry in various forms for 200 years or more. What is the re-sult? In America 80% of churches are in numeric decline and the other 20% are either flat-lined or growing because of transfers, not conversions. Charismatic Churches are notoriously fragmented—split, after split, after split. Pentecostal Christians have the highest divorce rate in the world, higher than even atheists. Something “ain’t right.”

    At one level I say, “Well, the gifted individual-conference model may be limited, but hey, thank God, at least somebody is trying!” Yet a higher wattage version of the same thing we’ve been doing for 200 years is not exactly kingdom progress in my book. I think other ministry methods are worth considering. I’m not impressed with supernatural manifestations that happen in a meeting format . . . alone. I am looking for the reality of lasting life-transforming power, and that takes time to evaluate. You simply cannot make a valid judgment based on a series of highly charged meetings.

    Also, the gifted evangelists are not likely to show up at my local church, or at my child’s bedside in the night. Even the great healing evangelists of generations gone by understood that the ultimate objective was to equip the local church and the Body of Christ for full functionality, not just rely on one or two highly gifted individuals. We need to equip the average believer to function within his or her sphere of life and grace endowment and not rely on the out-of-town expert, the out-of-town conference, and “bringing back an impartation.” I realize ministries exist that are highly committed to ground level, non-celebrity-based equipping. They are to be commended.

    Another problem with relying on a singular gifted indi-
    vidual is that the ministry tends to cease when they die. I know there are all kinds of notions about “impartation” and mantle transfer, and generational transfer and such. I can’t digress too far into these issues, but I do have my doubts about a good bit of it.

    If the Holy Spirit decides who gets what gift (1Cor. 12:11), I’m not quite sure I can categorically pass on my “package” to someone who I may think is my spiritual heir, or transfer my “anointing” to others through the laying on of hands or other metaphysical exercises. If the Holy Spirit hasn’t put “it” in someone by His own sovereign choosing, I can’t put “it” in someone through “mantle transfer.” We can, and should, pass the torch of Gospel passion for the Person and message of Christ to another generation, but I’m not sure about transferring much more than that, especially a gift package or “anointing,” even considering the Elijah/Elisha motif.

    Bathwater Issue #6 – Gift Elevation
    One of my dearest friends gave all her mortal adult days to the care of her disabled mother. She eschewed marriage, career, travel, and riches for what? Wiping her mother’s brow (and other parts of her anatomy). If that’s not a manifestation of true Cal-vary love and supernatural power, I don’t know what is. I don’t possess the kind of grace empowerment my dear friend had.

    She was one of those individuals who can be so easily overlooked in many frenetic church environments. Her temperament and personality were not innately aggressive or forward-putting. She did not need, nor demand, center stage attention. She just incarnated the life of Christ on earth, manifesting self-less love and service, but that’s not enough to register in an impressive way in our “style-over-substance,” signs-and-wonders obsessed value system. We wouldn’t think of giving her the testimony microphone . . . not enough flash . . . not enough bling. Thankfully, there are greater rewards for greater souls.

    The working of miracles is no more significant than any of the other gifts listed in 1 Corinthians 12. It should be one of the normal operations of kingdom life in a community of faith. The fact that it often isn’t does say something about our rather stunted condition and regrettably opens the door to the celebrity specialist and event-based model of ministry that is our norm.

    Bathwater Issue #7 – Power Lust
    I understand how the manifestation of supernatural power can have nearly irresistible allure for Christians who have been stuck in dead rationalistic religion for decades or centuries. Power lust is the logical reactionary response of believers whose Christian experience has been sterile. The devil will take our hunger and passion for Christ, and subtly turn it into passion for His things (power, any subordinate feature of our faith) and in so doing, snare us in our own pursuit of God. What should be legitimate accommodation to unusual manifestations of God’s great grace in our midst in healings and wonders becomes an obsessive centrality.

    I also understand how the manifestation of the supernatural could appeal to people in a secular culture that’s not interested in 500 year-old philosophical debating society questions, but who desire a spiritual reality. However, our administration of the super-natural to an unbelieving culture must be handled with great discretion and a relentless, rigorous, irresistible magnetic pull toward the Person of Christ and His Cross.

    The matter is one of emphasis: where do we put our emphasis? The Scriptures are clear where our emphasis should be. Our God is a jealous God. We love and serve Him for who He is, not for His attendant benefits.

    Bathwater Issue #8 – Normalizing the Exceptional
    Some advocates of experiencing the miraculous would have us believe that if miracles are not occurring on a weekly basis from ten to noon on Sundays, that we’re effectively backslidden. This is often preached dogmatically and condemningly, leaving the hearer with a sense of inadequacy. Any message that makes the hearer feel inadequate unless functioning identically with the person bringing the message is obviously not from God. Our insecurities and fears over potentially “missing the new thing” God is supposedly doing, makes us vulnerable to this type of gift projection and guilt mongering.

    If we make normative or central those unusual and exceptional events recorded in Scripture, forsaking the only sure foundation of Christ and Him crucified, we are in big trouble. Normalizing supernatural signs and wonders as the center for Christian life and ministry will set up a psychological culture of expectation: a good or “anointed” meeting becomes defined by the occurrence of supernatural manifestations, (where we “feel” or see something) and a “bad meeting” is one where they do not. This inevitably sets up a culture of comparison, dishonesty, fakery, striving, and performance. It will also put tremendous pressure upon those in charge to up the excitement factor week after week.

    The book of Acts chronologically covers about 35 years. If you count the number of supernatural miracles/healings recorded, you’ll find that it amounts to one miracle about every five years on average. If you include the utterance manifestations (prophecy, tongues, etc) it’s about once every two years.

    Therefore, the notion that we’re somehow “failing” if we don’t produce miracles on a weekly basis is an unbiblical standard. On the other side, never experiencing supernatural power is also unbiblical! Miracles are kingdom normative in the sense that buying a car is normal. Buying a car every week is not normal. By definition, miracles are exceptional.

    Also, the notion that the church meeting is where miracles are supposed to happen simply cannot stand biblical scrutiny. The vast majority of Jesus’ (and the apostle’s) miracles occurred outside formal meetings. They happened in the regular day-to-day world among people who needed them. Christ and the apostles took the message and miracles to the people. They didn’t make the people come to their meetings. We could learn from that and pull away from a very meeting-centered culture and value system that is becoming increasingly culturally irrelevant.

    Bathwater Issue #9 – Angels
    Much is being made in regard to angels in the current events in FL. Again, the topic could be a small book in itself, but let’s hit a few major points:

    1.We don’t venerate angels. Angels are ministers to us, the heirs of salvation (Heb. 1:14). They’re our servants, sent at the Father’s command.

    2.Christ is superior to the angels (Heb.2). Our focus, our emphasis, our need for guidance, instruction and power comes from Christ, and His indwelling Spirit, not angelic messengers. A legitimate angelic messenger will point to Christ.

    3.Redeemed, Spirit-filled human beings “out rank” the angels in cosmic hierarchy (Psa. 8:2 – “angels” in KJV should be Elohim—the majesty on high—humans are a little lower than the Elohim, but higher than angels). We share in the divine nature they do not (2Pe.1:4). We have a sonship relationship. They do not (Ga. 4:6). The angels do not even understand redemption (1Pe.1:12). I could go on and on. The point is: angels are no big deal. You and I are.

    4.Paul admonishes against receiving teaching about or from angels (Col. 2:18). He calls it being vainly puffed up in our fleshly imaginations. The Gnostics emphasized and elevated angels and made them integral in their understanding of the cosmos and how it operated.

    5.If and when anyone sees an angel, the first thing to do is to challenge it in the name of Christ to identify itself, and to identify from whom it is sent.

    Conclusion
    George Santayana said those who do not study history are destined to repeat it. The events in Lakeland are not new in a qualitative way. The core values are the same as they’ve been for decades. Some of what is occurring is God, some is the flesh, and some is the devil. That’s the way it always is, and it’s ok. We just have to exercise discernment. What is not ok is to attribute unique significance to the manifestation of power.

    God is big enough, good enough, and gracious enough to be simultaneously active on multiple levels. Regarding Lakeland, I believe God is doing wonderful things for individuals, and at the same time giving the Pentecostal/Charismatic branch of the church, another opportunity to come to grips with itself and its flawed and corrupt value systems and practices.

    Those of us over 40 have been this way before and the end is always a train wreck . . . William Branham . . . Evan Roberts . . . John Alexander Dowie . . . Tertullian . . . Edward Irving . . . and many others still living.

    Someone once told me that the most risky thing God could do for the Church is bless it with His manifest power. I understand what he was driving at. There’s only one foundation for life and ministry: Christ and Him crucified. Any ministry that:
    • makes signs and wonders the center piece
    • makes the working of wonders the foundation of their existence, their appeal, their draw
    • pursues manifestations, signs, and wonders as a core value system
    will end in disaster and destroy the lives of those who have associated with them intentionally or ignorance. I don’t say this in a prescribing failure sort of way. My desire is that repentance would occur and adjustment and alignment to Christ in thought and practice would realize all the benefits of the present realities of His kingdom while avoiding the painful pitfalls. The Lord’s testi-mony and the lives of people are at stake. Without deep change in value systems and methods, disaster and carnage are as inevitable as showers in April.

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  • 363. huds  |  December 15, 2008 at 3:44 pm

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  • 365. Julius Mbagaya  |  February 27, 2009 at 9:05 am

    I want to know what the church should do in preparation for the next election whenever it will be. Should we just wait and prophesy or is there something we can do for Kenya?

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  • 366. Julius Mbagaya  |  February 27, 2009 at 9:11 am

    About the Kenya Situation: Apart from just praying and prophesying, what should the church be doing to bring this nation to the purposes of God? I think that is where the problem is. Who should lead the church in Kenya to this direction?

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  • 367. maxy  |  April 28, 2009 at 3:56 pm

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  • 368. anne  |  June 16, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    This is first time I have encountered this web-site. reading some ( most )of the comments was painful. Especially those from the so called christians. I cannot imagine you have such shallow brains. I am not a great christian, infact I drink, smoke and work hard. I don’t even know bible scriptures like some of you great christians and prophets are quoting. But I do know one thing for sure You do not use God’s name in vain. God is not human, He is your and my world, respect for Him is our duty whether righteous or wicked. You have disrepected His name, in name of false prophessies and truths. Kenya does not hypochritical christians praying for the nation. What we need is, each and every person to re- examine him/herself, look deep into your heart, Ask yourself where is your true stand With the Lord God Almighty? Pray for yourself first, God is not interested in your help to fight His battles, that He can do. And you don’t wanna get in His way

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  • 369. MICAH  |  July 4, 2009 at 11:36 am

    THIS IS NOT A COMMENT BUT I REQUEST. I AM A MAN OF 30 YRS OLD. MY SON, MY WIFE AND I ARE ALL SICK SUFFERING FROM AIDS AND I KNOW GOD CAN HEAL US PLEASE HOW CAN I MEET PROPHET OWUOR TO PRAY FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.

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  • 370. wamuyu  |  August 25, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Hey Micah, am also trying to get into contact with Prophet Owuor. I thank God for you for believing he will heal your family and i believe too Dr. Owour has been given the gift and is anointed to heal in Jesus name.

    I am also suffering like you, i have a friend a small boy who is HIV Positive am tried searching for Dr. Owuor i got his website and his ministry of Holiness and repentance but it seems hard to get him in person. i called his ministry and they told me to attend his crusades but unfortuante the crusade happened in Nairobi without my knowledge i tried also to go to Neno evangelism and it also proved hard to get in contact with the pastor.

    i have tried getting into contact with many known powerful preachers but all in vain. i have not given up but i think God is teaching me something, to learn to pray for ourself and to have faith.

    so dear brother in your search for Dr. Owuor incase you get him remember me too but in all try to pray for yourself and to apply faith God can use you as the tool to bring healing to your family. i will remember you in prayers. may you also pray for my friend the young boy he is just a kid i don’t want him to die.He was molested at age 8 and he should not pay for a sin he did not commit by dying.

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  • 371. wamuyu  |  August 25, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Hey Micah, am also trying to get into contact with Prophet Owuor. I thank God for you for believing he will heal your family and i believe too Dr. Owour has been given the gift and is anointed to heal in Jesus name.

    I am also suffering like you, i have a friend a small boy who is HIV Positive am tried searching for Dr. Owuor i got his website and his ministry of Holiness and repentance but it seems hard to get him in person. i called his ministry and they told me to attend his crusades but unfortuante the crusade happened in Nairobi without my knowledge i tried also to go to Neno evangelism and it also proved hard to get in contact with the pastor.

    i have tried getting into contact with many known powerful preachers but all in vain. i have not given up but i think God is teaching me something, to learn to pray for ourself and to have faith.He say faith as small as the mast

    so dear brother in your search for Dr. Owuor incase you get him remember me too but in all try to pray for yourself and to apply faith God can use you as the tool to bring healing to your family. i will remember you in prayers. may you also pray for my friend the young boy he is just a kid i don’t want him to die.He was molested at age 8 and he should not pay for a sin he did not commit by dying.

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    It has been Long since i visited this blog,the last time i was here people were talking about how Raila was to be president(prophecy) and others Kibaki(prophecy).What i concluded,the prophecies of KIBAKI being president,came to pass,whether through riging or not because God did not specify how that would happen all he said was that kibaki will be president,thats it.Anyway i hope some of you wil accept you were misled.Any way kibaki and Railas term and many others term is over.I smell something good for kenya.

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  • 398. jackson  |  February 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    There is one and only prophet of GOD on the planet right now. GOD is of order, HE cannot use two voices at a time. Dr Owuor is the only prophet walking the planet now and preparing the church for the coming of the messiah. he was spoken of in Malachi 4:5-, visit http://www.repentandpreparetheway.org. those who have ears listen to what THE LORD is saying now.
    there is a big difference between having a gift of prophecy and being a prophet. you cannot become a prophet just by seeing the future! GOD HIMSELF raises prophets, HE has to call you in person.

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    • 399. Tim  |  February 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm

      Jackson there are many other Prophets in the world Owuor is not the only prophet. Elijah thought he was the only one remaining in his days and God told him that he had reserved 7 thousand more. plus on top of that there was a whole lot of prophets under the school of the Prophets headed by prophet Samuel. so to allude that there is only one prophet walking on earth is absolute ignorance and foolishness of the highest order. Real Prophets are not accepted in their own Nations Even Jesus was not accepted in his own hometown. But Owuor commands the numbers unlike the prophets in the bible who were rejected alone without crowds. limousines fleets of them,bodyguards and red carpet treatments,police bands and people calling him lord. he also claims to have talked with the dead John the baptist this according to the bible is necromancy or witchcraft. he claims to be the Elijah who was to come Jesus says that Elijah who was to come was the spirit of John the baptist. not owuor.. also he claims that he is the fourth prophet and there are no others un -scriptural lies… he calls himself the mightiest prophet this is also false the mightiest prophet was JESUS

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  • 400. Tim  |  February 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    There are true prophets of God here in America. David Wilkerson was a true prophet who was humble and preached holiness. Leonard Raven hill who was a true Prophet and died a humble man.. Paul washer A true End time Prophet alive and preaching today…. Theodore Aluoch a very humble son of Kenya his website is http://www.cthim.org

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